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May 11, 2019 16:35
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Tiger orders Move thru the forest to the small tree patch in the open field. Turn to face along the green line and prioritize firing on the MG infantry in the tree line where the red box is. If any enemy armour are still present or show up immediately halt whatever we are doing and fire on them. 
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May 11, 2019 18:19
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AT gun Remnants Keep shooting until you die. That was a great shot with the tank. I can't wait to read the Soviet thread.
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May 11, 2019 22:26
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Oooh ooh I can give you a sneak preview and it involves the words "tiger" and "OP", like, a lot. I for one am a big believer in honourable tank 1v1. [E] popete I am pretty sure you can just drive forward thru the forest or whatever, no need for the runabout. [E2] The south path is through the minefield so it won't even work. Saros fucked around with this message at 03:25 on May 12, 2019 |
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May 12, 2019 03:22
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Malick23 posted:That was a great shot with the tank. I can't wait to read the Soviet thread.  thank you CM pathing AI!Wouldn't going thru the forest have a potential to get stuck? I routed around the minefield specifically.
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May 12, 2019 05:26
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I'm not sure that the tiger will take the path through the town. That's how it got in front of the buildings in the first place; it got go near where the road turns and went north for no reason I can see. And I think there is an increased chance of getting stuck in the woods but I'm not sure how much higher. It might still be worth it for the shorter distance, but that's hard to say.
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May 12, 2019 13:49
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I generally find woods don't seem to increase bog chance much unless you try move too fast through them.
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May 12, 2019 15:07
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Updated the Tigers orders. The red box is my priority target of infantry, is that the correct spot?
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May 12, 2019 16:52
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Yup though you are super super close to the Soviet infantry,, especially the ones in the houses. close enough that a charge with grenades becomes a real threat and your commander will probably get sniped if he sticks his head out.
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May 12, 2019 17:42
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1st Platoon Not much left to do, maybe see if some of them can save themselves and run after the surviving panzerschreck.
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May 12, 2019 19:16
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Orders: Stragglers south fall back and get into houses/cover, send a rifle squad to pick up the LMG fro mthe trench. HMG make sure they are deployed, engage enemy MG positions and moving units. If people need to pick up weapons do that.  Stragglers north make sure they are in the foxholes and put area fire on all visible enemy positions.  Mortars get out of the houses, medic and set up a team to direct fire on the following spots if possible without exposing them too much.
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May 12, 2019 22:37
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2nd Platoon Try and get to the trench at the ford with 3rd Platoon. Maybe you'll get lucky! 3rd Platoon Return fire on the guys in the woods trying to shoot us up. We need to get a good volume of fire going and press them hard to reduce the amount of incoming fire we're taking. Please have the LMGs and rifles we have left area fire at visible mans in the woods off-screen in the direction I've marked in turquoise. Any SMGs we have should put up a high volume of fire on the guys coming at us through the woods I've marked in yellow. Anyone who can't get a good shot at turquoise and yellow should fire at those jerks in the pink bit. I'm not sure I understand how to split/recombine my units so if this isn't reasonable to ask, please divide fire between yellow and turquoise, focusing the LMGs on the woods toward turquoise.  Panzershrek Teams That went less well than I had hoped. We didn't get the shot off and got exploded in the attempt. HIDE for one turn, then attempt to retreat back to the NE part of the trench UNLESS that tank comes forward into range. If he does, move up and fire at him, then retreat toward the trench, maintaining the best cover possible. edit: Got confused about the location of targets, it's fixed now. Frances Nurples fucked around with this message at 23:08 on May 12, 2019 |
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May 12, 2019 22:58
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Popete posted:Updated the Tigers orders. The red box is my priority target of infantry, is that the correct spot? Yeah. You've got the right target.
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May 13, 2019 02:17
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Okay, pretty quick and small update tonight. Not much changed for anyone in town or the southern stragglers except some positions. We didn't do a ton of damage to them and they really only did some mopping up on 1st platoon. Turn 26 https://youtu.be/8lFYlxhgtbQ https://youtu.be/OTM-jfeloRk https://youtu.be/Sl7xwrwDWFI https://youtu.be/2ZNA71wGDN0 https://youtu.be/4gt64R66CA8 https://youtu.be/PPl_1ljRKfQ Turn 27 https://youtu.be/LlhC4m9hTBg https://youtu.be/_Kw6gbBSYWo https://youtu.be/nSvqM5Sqj50 Turn 28 https://youtu.be/wyrmqjbhbY0 https://youtu.be/JBLK4O8eyXY https://youtu.be/O0qFUS9hsR0 https://youtu.be/exv2xPdsHWY https://youtu.be/GZ1FuMd3yXs https://youtu.be/DPxkmEtLvCY Battlefield Overview (Us)  Battlefield Overview (Them)  Southern Stragglers Position  Mortar Ammo Summary Ammo teams are in contact. One crew lost its tube despite medicing... maybe it's in the trees to the east?    Enemy Intel (minimal) HQ unit east of the river moving south toward the straggler hill?  This infiltrator had a mortar land nearby but probably lived  This HMG team really might have gotten chewed up by the mortars 
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May 13, 2019 02:45
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It looks like the group that killed 1st platoon are going to attempt to flank our rear. Can the guys in the trench get good shots on them if they do that?
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May 13, 2019 04:36
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Unlikely, I think we need to withdraw a bit from the trench, maybe to the houses or the second trench line anyway as the guys to the north we can't really see are probably a HQ doing an arty call in on the fortifications. Second floor of the houses should have better views of the enemy as they approach. [e] Can I get tiredness status of my teams and how much HE does the Tiger have left. The whole Soviet force in the east is basically hiding from it so it's not going to be very effective but it is locking down that whole bit of the map. Also a close up overhead shot of the town, I want to reposition the HMG teams. I have an idea for TIger placement too, basically up the rise a bit where it beat up all those charging soviets. I lets it lock down the east, stops them using the ford to bring more guys over and can also support the other ford!  If we do this I think it might be worth having a target arc so it doesn't turn the turret to engage the western ford for now, I don't know how the side/rear of the turret are armored but I don't want to expose them to Soviet ATR fire or for the T70 to suddenly pop up and kill them. Saros fucked around with this message at 11:45 on May 13, 2019 |
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May 13, 2019 11:22
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Heavy Weap and Straggler orders -North Stragglers withdraw the rifle teams to the rear trench. SMG and LMG can stay in foxholes. -South Stragglers consolidate into positions, bring the guys back from the far west. Pick up the LMG with a rifle team. -HMG reposition as shown, please feel free to use different sites if there is no LoS from where I have suggested. DEPLOY and use area fire for everyone smartly. |North HMG get into a house and try set up so it can cover north and west from 2nd floor? -Mortars, the team with the most ammo lightly fire on the enemies as shown but try save a few rounds at least, the other with HE ammo reposition as shown to be ready to fire on an expected enemy rally point. The final team with no tube go hunting for the tube (back in the east?)
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May 13, 2019 13:26
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Tiger orders Move along the blue light to the bank of the river. Turn to face along the green line and set a target arc along the purple lines. 
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May 13, 2019 19:52
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Just FYI the bank slopes a fair bit so if you're actually at the riverbank you won't really see anything. Back closer to the wood the ground rises a lot and gives a way better view.
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May 13, 2019 20:24
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Orders are due: Wednesday, May 15 at 7PM EDT Wednesday, May 15 at 11PM GMT Thursday, May 16 at 7AM AWST
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May 14, 2019 01:17
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No major changes to orders. Continue resting up your guys, recovering lost weapons, and getting into positions with good cover and good fields of fire. If you can area fire at Soviet positions, do it. It's time we did some shooting. So that everyone knows what I'm thinking at this point. At this point, our main objectives are to 1) prevent the Soviets from taking more ground and 2) prevent the Soviet from consolidating control of the ground they already have. After the loss of their armor, the Soviets can't realistically launch an assault on the town. However, they can turn their toeholds into footholds. That'll give them a place to launch a future attack from. I want to prevent that. We can't sally out of town, but we can suppress any Russians in positions overlooking town and we can shoot up any Soviets who try to move forwards. The Tiger is going to be the lynchpin of our ongoing defense. Getting it into a dominant position will be crucial. Popete posted:Tiger orders This general area looks good, although I'd give glynn some discretion to find the highest possible ground in the immediate area. Getting our remaining heavy weapons into key terrain will also be key. Saros posted:Heavy Weap and Straggler orders Saros, your orders look solid. Given that we have plenty of ammo, feel free to start area firing your machine guns into suspected Soviet positions. Same with the mortars. The fight is likely to be over soon and unspent ammunition isn't of much use to anyone.
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May 14, 2019 06:46
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Bacarruda posted:So that everyone knows what I'm thinking at this point. Okay so here is what I think they are going to do, they know they cant take the Tiger directly at this point but it has only so much HE and is using it at quite an alarming rate for very little return. Basically I expect them to probe from three directions to keep our infantry spread out, they likely think we are in worse shape than we are from the way they've been very enthusiastic in their attacks.  Basically a platoon infiltrate in the east, 1-2 go for the west ford and 2ish go for the north ford, all with as much fire support from their excess of MG's as possible and timed with an arty and possibly smoke bombardment. Once they are across the ford they can get amongst the village with their much larger number of SMG's and basically tear us to bits while the Tiger is largely unable to stop them. The best counter imo is diversifying the defense so we cant all be wiped by arty, getting cover on the west ford and making sure the Tiger locks down the central/east ford so they can't mass troops in the much tighter terrain across the river.
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May 14, 2019 10:34
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2nd Platoon Please get in that trench and rest up, buddy. You earned it. 3rd Platoon Hold position, medic up as best you can, and area fire aggressively on any Soviet movement you can see. Panzershrek Team Hold position, HIDE.
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May 15, 2019 23:24
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The basic picture hasn't changed: they're trying to pincer us a bit. The T-70 charging forward highlights a gap in our orders, infantry and armor, for dealing with contingencies. Stuff that can be helpful are things like target priorities "target enemy armor, mortars, hq, mgs, and conscipts in that order" gives me some freedom to change targeting where "shoot that guy" does not. Another thing is description of intent. A good example is Saros told me to put an HMG in a building so it "could shoot north and west," but drew a line to a house with no northern windows. His expressed intent let me pick a better (but not great, btw) option for the unit that can shoot north and west. Anyway, the AI also decided not to shoot the tank, which is amazing itself. Turn 29 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbyJGZf7pO0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9rB2wBZrO8 Turn 30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZFZLqD2I3Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZAxyX1zE3M Turn 31 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaP0RfaMaLs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTBUrTJdfCA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o88f7U5zA4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQJS8rg96c0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J57i3r5zBN4 North Front  This Guy (and others) Can Shell That Approach - ammo getting low all around  East Front  Tiger Damage Menu  Full Overview  Lots of units dropped orders for some reason. Brief morale impacts or fatigue, maybe? Lots of shooting at enemy was just a few rifles too, so not very effective. We did get some lmg fire in the north to decent effect. Saros, your far eastern guys are moving, they are just exhausted and going very slow. The rifle unit that went after the LMG got suppressed right away because that trench is just too exposed.
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May 16, 2019 03:29
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Stragglers South and Heavy weapons These are gonna be vague as I expect you to use discretion when setting up defenses to give the best fire lanes. 
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May 17, 2019 11:38
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North Stragglers Rest up while you can. Malick23 fucked around with this message at 18:08 on May 17, 2019 |
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May 17, 2019 15:33
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Malick there's a forest and a hill between the straggler positions and seeing to the west so I doubt you can help much. You need to be focusing on the guys right in front of you, you can see the guys trying to evict our hero AT gun man from the trench right now and with area fire orders to suppress them he can keep picking them off one by one and generate much more entertainment for us. I also think the riflemen I withdrew to the big trench can see the same spot but am less sure about this. e.g. this is them firing at the start of the third minute by themselves.
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May 17, 2019 15:43
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Orders are due: Sunday, May 19 at 7PM EDT Sunday, May 19 at 11PM GMT Monday, May 20 at 7AM AWST
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May 17, 2019 18:50
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Tiger Orders Engage the T-70 immediatly. Once destroyed move along the blue line to a better position along the river bank. Engage enemy infantry within the green arc (facing east) with priorities for MG/HQ/mortars/AT squads/rifleman in that order. 
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May 17, 2019 19:23
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1st Platoon We can go hang by the church until we're needed somewhere.
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May 18, 2019 09:49
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2nd Platoon This guy should be included in 3rd Platoon orders from now on. 3rd Platoon We're currently being pressed by small amounts of dudes from three directions, and I want to make sure we're putting out enough fire to harass all of those groups. To that effect, please area fire the guys at positions A, B, and C marked on the map. I leave it to your discretion to set facings and divide fire, but let's put at least one LMG on position C. In the interest of maintaining our volume of fire, please re-focus the whole platoon's fire (TARGET the specific mans if you can) on any unit that is causing any part of the platoon to become suppressed. Panzershrek team Fire at the first thing you see. If the T-70 waltzes inside of max range and you can get a shot off, please shoot that tank! 
Frances Nurples fucked around with this message at 22:27 on May 19, 2019 |
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May 19, 2019 22:20
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tl;dr We mashed their western thrust a good bit, we're engaging center, and their scattered eastern thrust is making progress; the tiger was annoyingly ineffective and the mortars ignored my orders twice (which at least saved us a little final ammo). Turn 32 https://youtu.be/DRCV_q4fV1Q https://youtu.be/OuGP0hf0TYU https://youtu.be/EeWSbj_kr8w https://youtu.be/-XXflvb9Qrw https://youtu.be/P8KrT4FFQX0 Turn 33 https://youtu.be/RxF0XauJp-8 https://youtu.be/ndARpK0AdaQ https://youtu.be/DfI0kU7Mn8g https://youtu.be/S3VRj0CiRjY https://youtu.be/AF8SpzaTdqA Turn 34 https://youtu.be/UIXDvTh-lew https://youtu.be/3_N7fzvWXtQ https://youtu.be/jCoILmPL_uc https://youtu.be/Pk9ociyWP8k https://youtu.be/OVPI6gly2Wo Overview  Other pics have to wait; we got a late start due to a power outage!
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May 20, 2019 04:02
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Ouch, looks like the mortars and their own artillery really smushed up the western thrust. Right now the big threat is the middle and that bloody T-70 is rolling across to over-run our trenchline. However if we can bring the Panzershrecks forward I think there's a good chance we can kill it if it tries to force the line. Some Tiger support for central would be good though. It's not achieving anything now as it's got too many targets in widely dispersed directions.
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May 20, 2019 09:26
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1st Platoon Panzerschreck turns north to join the troops on the western side of the road. Trench or woods, whichever has better LOS north where the T70 is potentially heading.
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May 20, 2019 14:02
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 Lol the T-70 hit our mines. Okay so if you watch the video you see it hit what looks like 2 mines and then when we spot it it's stuck in the same position for about ten seconds. We may not have tracked it but it seems to have at least decided to stop and turn it's turret to take a shot at the Tiger. Tiger should be able to see it too so goodbye T-70. ORDERS:  Okay so the western thrust is a lot less worrying right now after eating a bunch of mortars and friendly artillery and those guys on the central hill are suppressing our defences. -Simple enough orders this turn. heavy weapons are move as fast as possible to get set up in positions that can see the riverbend forest then proceed to shoot the absolute poo poo out of the hill positions (presumably they are occupying our abandoned trench). As mortars run out of mortar ammo get them into a position to contribute rifle fire to the hill position. -In the far east the stragglers team by the guys who got killed is to stop and die in place. The rest of the stragglers and the HMG there are to form a defensive line as indicated. Use your discretion for placement I don't have a good grasp of the terrain around there.
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May 20, 2019 15:28
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Orders are due: Wednesday, May 22 at 7PM EDT Wednesday, May 22 at 11PM GMT Thursday, May 23 at 7AM AWST
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May 21, 2019 17:11
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Tiger orders Shoot the T-70, if we don't have LoS on it move up until we do. But do not chase after it if it scoots away behind the forest. After the T-70 is dispatched continue shooting up infantry nearby.
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May 21, 2019 23:02
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Orders for the Kampfgruppe 3rd Platoon and Northern Stragglers -- start putting down area fire into the southern edge of the forests on the north bank of the river. I want to deny the Soviets access to those areas as staging grounds. Heavy Weapons. If you have any mortars left, wack any Russian troop concentrations you can reach. Burn all the MG and mortar ammo you have. This match is about to get decided. Popete posted:Tiger orders The T-70 hit mines and is almost certainly out of the fight. It didn't move, so it's almost certainly been immobilized. I think it's best you fall back to the town center, since the Russians are gonna try to hit us from the north.
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May 22, 2019 02:05
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What about giving the Tiger 1 more turn to shoot stuff and then I'll retreat back into town? The T-70 might have just done something funny or the crew is stunned. It would be nice to shoot it dead just to be sure.
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May 22, 2019 04:46
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We should note that the mines we have are anti-personnel, so while I think hitting 3 of them in a row probably could have done enough track damage to bog the vehicle, it isn't so certain. A possibility is that the T-70 had hunt orders and stopped to shoot at the Tiger, or that this was their whole intent, as we've seen them do before. In my head the math is: one turn should be plenty to kill the little tankie, and that may be an important morale victory. You know they're all extremely rooting for the underdog t-70 to get hits in on the OP tiger. As long as that little guy can scurry around taking million-to-one shots it will be a strong motivator for their comrades to continue to die rushing the church.
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May 22, 2019 12:51
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