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Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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I forget, when are these usually up on the HBO Amazon Prime channel? Isn't usually close to air time on the East Coast?

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Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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DrunkPanda posted:

I feel like they overdid it with the awkward interactions in this episode. Like, this show is called Game of Thrones, not Awkward Interactions: The Awkwardening.

It kinda wore out its welcome with me. The one with the dragons was really weird. "Hey, our mom is about to have sex with her nephew.... LETS LEER AT THEM FROM 2 FEET AWAY!"

As an owner of cats that was the realest poo poo in this episode.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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LadyPictureShow posted:

I didn't know you could survive without a pancreas. That's nuts!

Yeah we're called diabetics lol

Also my step dad died of pancreatic cancer, but he was already stage 4 by the time he was diagnosed and it killed him in less than four months. That poo poo is nasty as all hell and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Well except maybe Alex Azar.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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I would like to see a scientific study done on goon facial blindness. God drat, Kelly Clarkson? What in the actual gently caress man?

Professor Beetus
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Karmine posted:

This is a weird thing to freak out about.

:shrug: two sentences about it on the internet, freaking out, got it. Goons are especially bad at faces, it comes up a lot in TV and movie threads. Emilia Clarke and Kelly Clarkson look nothing alike other than both having recognizably human faces.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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Tenebrais posted:

I thought one of the sand snakes was. Maybe I'm mixing them up. Certainly they seemed to be better at that than martial arts.

The sand snakes sucked but this is pretty lovely. They were all legit actors before being cast in GoT. One of them had nice boobs and showed them in an episode because Thrones gonna Thrones. That's it.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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Roy Gato III posted:

I know D&D have been exposed as frauds but they still do better than what 95% of people would come up with.

I always try to take goon criticism with a bucket of salt, because when they inevitably share what they think makes high quality TV the result is typically laughable. Not that the criticisms themselves are necessarily bad or unwarranted, just provides me with a little perspective.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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Zaphod42 posted:

That's a little hokey though. It makes sense for Brienne because she slowly earned Jaime's respect. But he started by calling her names non-stop. HIS attitude of her changed, but it would take way way more for all of society to see her that way.

I mean, maybe that's what they're intending, but sorry its too easy. Real social change takes forever and involves lots of backsliding.

Well when most of society is dead it probably won't matter what they think.

e: Picture this, you're one of the last surviving people of King's Landing, you nearly got starved out in the Winter, and you're lucky to be alive. Ser Brienne of Tarth strolls by with her armor and sword, overseeing food distribution. You going to walk up to her and tell her she can't be a knight?

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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LORD OF BOOTY posted:

quick poll: how many people here have noticed a wide cultural trend of people being weirdly insecure about all the sex and tits and dicks in GoT

i'm getting in a bizarre argument in CineD where someone doesn't believe this exists, in spite of my experience telling me that people being weird about it is practically a cultural meme at this point, and... i'm willing to accept that i might be going crazy but i don't think i am

Lmao

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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GoGoGadgetChris posted:

No offense but aren't you the weirdo who asked for advice on which timestamp to shut your eyes so you didn't have to see a 22 year old woman's naked torso?

Point taken but there is a pretty big difference between "I am not here for this specific instance of nudity" vs "all nudity/sexuality makes me uncomfortable."

Professor Beetus
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:

also the guy I'm having a bizarre argument in CineD with about this, side note :v:

For it to be an argument I think you need a point, but far be it for me to disagree with the LORD OF BOOTY

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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By far the weirdest thing about the Arya sex scene is how little Maisie Williams's face has changed compared to the other child actors on the show. We rewatched s1e1 the other day and other than being a little bit taller she didn't look all that different. A lot of that is costuming and makeup and whatnot, but it still made the scene kind of weird for me to watch.

Btw I think it's okay to have different opinions about this and it doesn't make y'all loving weirdos or pedophile creeps or whatever, since this thread seems really tense this morning for whatever reason. Except for those of you who are really weird about it. You know who you are.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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TheRat posted:

If you think this has a happy ending you haven't been paying attention

- a character who was eaten by his own dogs in a very cathartic moment for Sansa Stark

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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Edgar Allen Ho posted:

One year = one season has been established for a while now

Wasn't baby Sam an infant for like three seasons though? I'm just gonna chalk it up to time being hosed up and broken in this particular fantasy world.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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Gunthen posted:

There a massive difference between when baby Sam is born in the books, and when he is in the show. Its a continuity error, because they changed the pacing of the story from the books, and have moved past them significantly.

Has baby Sam even been born in the books or is that from one of those WoW released chapters? God it's been so long since I've read the books that I keep mixing up book/show poo poo in my mind constantly.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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As Nero Danced posted:

Yeah, the show has never done a good job of conveying the passage of time. The first couple episodes took place over a few months due to travelling but watching it you'd think it was a week or two at most. It's the kind of thing that normally doesn't impact the show much till people start zipping around the country side in a matter of hours or age questions become a focal point.

Man, imagine how different the first couple seasons might have turned out if Westeros had developed teleportation technology earlier.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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Crow Jane posted:

Yeah, there's that whole thing with Baby Sam and Val's child in the book

Oh right. Well if the remaining books ever do come out it will be interesting to see how some of the dangling plots that weren't ever brought to the get resolved and how different it might look.

I mean, it's about as likely as my pancreas producing insulin but what the hell, a guy can dream can't he?

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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Gunthen posted:

The truly sad thing, is that the ending to the show. Is likely the only ending we will get. Unless GRRM lives to be 120, no way he finishes the books.

Yeah I know. I mean the books have their flaws which have been pointed out a thousand times over, but I still got sucked in enough and care about the book characters enough to want some resolution and the tv ending is going to be like someone putting diet Shasta in a Coke bottle and insisting it's the real thing.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Sorry we don't want you to die, dude

Welp :vince:

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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Phenotype posted:

Ahahaha I forgot about that added wrinkle. In the books Mance Rayder is an actual character, and has a newborn son. After Stannis kills Mance, everyone just knows it's only a matter of time before Melisandre wants to burn his heir, so Jon Snow forces Gilly to trade her own incest baby for Mance's son in a secret swap. Her son stays at the Wall and Mance's baby is the one that goes to Oldtown with Gilly and Sam.

Also Mance Rayder didn't actually burn in the flames, they swapped HIM out too for some reason, and he goes to Bolton-controlled Winterfell with some spearwives masquerading as a traveling troupe of entertainers. For, you know, reasons.

The more I think about it, the more I understand why GRRM is allergic to his keyboard. Those books are just a gnarled mess of plots and subtleties.

I remember thinking "there's no way the pink letter is real and Ramsey killed Stannis" and then the show came along and now if nothing else I'd really like to know exactly what the gently caress went down at Winterfell and what the hell Mance Rayder ended up doing.

Professor Beetus
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Zaphod42 posted:

Terrible read. I didn't say GOT was. I said HBO was. They do show softcore porn sometimes, and other shows dabble.

I did happen to notice the only show HBO currently has in their 'late night' category right now is the animated Spawn lol

Professor Beetus
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Phenotype posted:

That's from some TV show, isn't it? I could swear I remember a scene from Family Guy or something where they lampshade it like "All right, you're 18, you're not a precocious girl and a promising student anymore, now you're a sex object. Lemme see dem tits."

There were gross radio morning zoo types constantly doing age 18 countdowns for Mary Kate and Ashley Olson, Britney Spears, and Lindsay Logan, iirc. It's not some new idea or anything.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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Can't believe they're getting Jerome Flynn for a Dark Tower series and he's not going to voice Oy. What a waste.

Professor Beetus
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Private Speech posted:

So uhh. Is there a (legal) way to stream season 8 in the UK without a physical TV subscription? I've googled around but it seems the only option would be a Sky package for the low low price of £396 for 18 months (not including TV licensing costs, and the fact that I don't have a TV or any desire to buy one).

I don't care that much but I thought I'd ask. I only have a Netflix subscription right now, but I've used Amazon and others in the past and would be willing to pay them a month or two.

Is HBO NOW not available in the UK??? That seems completely insane to me.

Professor Beetus
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Private Speech posted:

It's not, also Sky has some stupid exclusivity deal for the last season even with Amazon.

Then NOW TV thing lets you stream Sky shows for £18/3 months though, so it's alright.

At least you have an affordable option, but drat. I think in the US there's the option to get HBO as an add on channel in various streaming service packages as well as just getting HBO NOW directly from HBO.

Professor Beetus
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Zaphod42 posted:

He's too recognizable. Actors who have been in a million movies shouldn't be in GOT.

Nonsense. Sir Patrick Stewart should have been Jon Connington and I will die on that hill. That is, if they had bothered to do that plotline at all.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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bobjr posted:

Dark Tower was also rushed by King after he almost died after being hit from a car. I’m sure it would be a much different back half otherwise

I love King, probably one of my all time favorite authors, but I get an incredible kick of the fact that he had a mortality scare, decided to rush out a half-assed mediocre end to the fantasy epic he'd been working on for ages so that his fans wouldn't be "disappointed" and then went on to live a long rear end time and continue churning out some of his most mediocre and unsatisfying work.

I still think On Writing is probably his best book, even if his writing advice is bad advice for a lot of writers.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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JHomer722 posted:

GRRM is far less invested in world building than Tolkien.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/04/11/just-write-it

This loving owns and actually gives me much more respect for that man.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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Crow Jane posted:

Some critic or other described Bran as being your teenage cousin who smoked a whole bunch of weed before Thanksgiving dinner and thinks it isn't completely obvious to everyone around that he's high as gently caress, which kinda made me like him a little bit more.

Was that on Chapo? I remember hearing that too and I thought it was funny as gently caress.

Professor Beetus
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Crow Jane posted:

I wanna say it was somewhere on the AVClub, but maybe?

That seems entirely possible as well, I don't follow them religiously but I do occasionally read their episode reviews if I see them in my fb feed.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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awesmoe posted:

here are some things she said. if you have others you'd like to discuss please, find some quotes!

“I don’t want to hear what a white man has to say about ‘A Wrinkle in Time.’ I want to hear what a woman of color or a biracial woman has to say about the film. I want to hear what teenagers think about the film.”

(note: a wrinkle in time. not captain marvel. this was from a press day for AWIT.)
this isn't about who gets to write, it's about who brie larson listens to.

“About a year ago, I started paying attention to what my press days looked like and the critics reviewing movies. I noticed it appeared to be overwhelmingly white male.”
(from a marie clare interview about CM)
Are you saying she's wrong and that press days aren't white male?


also, can you point to anything objectionable here?

People who get mad about Brie Larson are uniformly trash and this forum is no exception.

Steve2911 posted:

Cry me a loving river over the erasure of white male voices.

This times 1000, and I'm a white male.

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Professor Beetus
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Super Deuce posted:

Never said anything about caring whether white men disappear or not. I do care if anyone pushes out other voices simply because of their skin color and genitalia. It’s weird how this is okay. She was wrong to say what she said. If she left it as “I wish there were more critiques from different backgrounds” not “white men can’t talk about this”. They aren’t the same thing.

She didn't say they couldn't you idiot she said that she doesn't want to hear their opinions because she rightfully doesn't give a gently caress about what they have to say.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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pseudanonymous posted:

Do you actually imagine that somehow we're facing a dark future where there are no white male movie reviewers? Truly an Orwellian hellscape that we're not even remotely near.

Even if it were true they'd just start a bunch of terrible podcasts

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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pseudanonymous posted:

A bunch more you mean.

:thejoke:

Professor Beetus
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Its Coke posted:

I'm okay with there being a large negative reaction when someone says something racist or sexist. Don't be a freeze peach guy

Yeah I'm okay with people dumping on annoying white dudes because their existence does more harm to me as a white dude than anything Brie Larson has said.

Lmao wait are you saying what Brie Larson said was racist and sexist???

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Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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Valor Morghulis

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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Granted I don't know if that twitter guy specifically meant serialized tv but All Good Things is probably an all time top ten series finale.

Professor Beetus
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I said come in! posted:

I was thinking that this morning. Like, how do you take an extra 12 months, only to write 6 episodes and have them turn out to be a sloppy mess? How do we go from how amazing season 1 was to this garbage?

Honestly when HBO wanted three more seasons and a movie or whatever and D and D went "lol nah" HBO should have just poo poo canned them and hired some new show runners who were willing to take the time to get the back half of the show right.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

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Zaphod42 posted:

I completely agree, but D&D want to do some show about slavery and are unwilling to let other people manage the show, which is an ultimate dick move.

Rushing a lovely end to one of the most critically successful shows of all time so they could scoot off and work on an incredibly terrible idea.

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pepito sanchez posted:

Aren't they supposed to "continue" GoT with an original series and story on Valyria set in the same universe? Speaking of terrible ideas.

"They" being HBO in this case though, not D and D. So it might actually be good poo poo from people who are into the setting and want to do something cool with it.

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