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I actually like the show still, all the way up to season 7, but I think they spent more and more time writing themselves into a corner and the resolution is gonna feel either too predictable or too "you pulled this out of your rear end so we wouldn't say it was predictable"esperterra posted:Being better actors might help too but lmao yeah the black hole of chemistry is great. Which is ridiculous because emilia clarke has insane chemistry with like, a piece of stone she's like the most likeable person ever when she's not acting in game of thrones
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2019 14:56 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 10:13 |
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The Walrus posted:I can't wait until the white walkers win or close to it and the internet is just loving furious "you mean eight years of scheming and backstabbing was all a complete waste of time" with the reply being "yes that is the entire theme of the show that's been foreshadowed in basically every episode" Ya it’s global warming
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2019 22:01 |
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I think the issue is when I had to convince people to watch the show in like.... Season 2 it was always "Hey ignore the first dumb scene with the zombies, it's not that kinda show" And we were just fooling ourselves, because it is. But I do wish they had a bit more focus on the white walkers instead of just the "Ya here's a scene of us making them. They like this symbol I guess. They clearly have motivations and a history but let's just make them zombies" Like this is the show that took a guy that pushed a kid out a window and over the course of 4+ years made him sympathetic, and they do the same with a lot of characters. I almost wish they had a point of view chapter of the Night King that wasn't him just smiling and doing something hosed up and evil. Or poo poo go all out with the Climate Change metaphor and make it really clear yeah you brought this on yourselves. Just something more than here's a zombie coming to kill you because he's mean
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2019 06:55 |
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You know for all the complaints about post-book seasons remember when Dany had literally nothing happen for like all of season 2 and every episode she’d pop up and ask about her dragons and they introduced characters like the mask girl whose foreshadowing led to absolutely nothing happening
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2019 16:21 |
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:My prediction is we're never seeing the Iron Islands or Girl Theon ever again I was trying to figure out how the hell they're supposed to still cover Wintefell and King's Landing when the white walkers are already at the gates. Someone mentioned they think it'll go like: Ep 3: Winterfell fight. Humans lose, half the cast dies and the rest escape Ep 4: Here we are, running away. Maybe we run away to the islands. Ep 5: SOmething happens in King's Landing? Maybe white walkers again?? So there's some room in there ALSO also - there has been a popular fan theory for years that the main villian progression was gonna go Joffrey, Ramsay, Euron (Which it has in the books, and Euron is way more hosed up than Ramsay even) and they kept doing press before Euron came out that he would be worse than Ramsay and that all ended up being a whole lot of nothing. In the books, Euron is obsessed with black magic, and claims to have tools to bring down the wall and enslave dragons. There is a pretty popular fan theory that he will have something to do with the white walkers, possibly to the point of joining them or wanting to become their leader There is nothing suggesting any of this in the show and it would come out of fuckign nowhere if that's where they're going
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2019 13:40 |
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LadyPictureShow posted:He just comes off as Theon and Yara's wildly inappropriate uncle; talking openly about his sexual exploits, dressing wrong for his age, still going clubbing in his forties, constantly trying to score some molly from anyone he thinks might have some. Show Euron is basically Tormund. Weird horny charismatic guy. Dunno where the villain part comes from at this point Atlas Hugged posted:It's going to end with some weird time travel shenanigans showing us that all of this has happened before and all of it will happen again. Then Jimi Hendrix will start playing. More Book Spoilers That Might Spoil The Ending Still: You never see the Night King in the books, at least up until book 5. Old Nan, bran's nanny who is like basically a prophet at this point, says that his original name is erased from history but she believes it to be Brandon Stark soooo
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2019 15:04 |
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Delthalaz posted:Wow, OK so ravens and dragons do go at 747 speed or maybe supersonic fighter jet There is a very old Game of Thrones videogame (forgot which one) where they built everything book accurate and to scale and using whatever was mentioned, and when GRRM saw the wall he was like "That's way too big why would you make it that big" before they told him that's actually how big the book made it
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2019 14:33 |
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They didn't have any of this story figured out when they started the series so they spent a full season per book thinking yeah this lines up, and they publicly said many times yeah we'll have about as many seasons as books. Then they got GRRMs notes for the ending and were like holy gently caress seriously why did we spend a whole season on Dorne then and just started deleting storylines left and right to catch up. Also part of it I feel like is the story used to jump around so much and they were pretty great at that - like weaving together an interesting episode even when every scene has nothing to do with another scene. Occasionally you would spend longer in one place for a big deal like a battle or Red Wedding. Now that everyone's in the same place it just doesn't work that well? I feel like there is probably an entire book worth of content after the NK dies that we're getting in 3 episodes
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# ¿ May 7, 2019 10:35 |
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I loved his character but you could have removed Oberyn entirely from the show at this point and I think nothing would have changed?
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# ¿ May 7, 2019 10:37 |
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Just Chamber posted:If the show still has any of that magic left in it that made it what it is (it doesn't), Jon won't be on the Iron Throne come the end of it all, this show has always shown that someone like him can never succeed in that world. He'll either be killed or he'll realise just what it takes to really be the ruler after he's forced to do something like kill Daenerys when she's going crazy and that'll break him and he'll walk away from it all. Not sure who'll actually sit on the throne in that scenario though. That's my hope for the ending anyway but i'm sure i'll be disappointed. Even if he’s not Ned’s don Jon has the same sort of Ned charisma. If it was really on theme he gets lynched for saving everyone
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# ¿ May 10, 2019 17:54 |
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My secret wish is they make it a time travel bullshit ending like hold the door
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# ¿ May 10, 2019 17:56 |
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Famous TV Dad posted:my secret wish is that they go full evangelion ep 25-26 and the entirety of the last two episodes are just the internal monologues of jon snow and dany This is my new secret wish You have bran already just do it. Episode 6 is just insane bran inside his own brain world. Ned and catelyn clapping congratulations at him
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# ¿ May 10, 2019 20:59 |
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lezard_valeth posted:While hilarious, I seriously doubt Emilia Clarke and Kit Harrington would be so unprofessional and blatantly obvious if they were truly dissapointed with the series ending. I believe this is all just a hoax to keep the viewers coming back like "oooooh even the lead actors are angry, what kind of bullshit happens?? I must subscribe to HBO to see it!". Yeah I have a feeling it's more like "I die in the series" disappointing. I don't actually know if the actors know how the show is coming together when they're filming it because everyone is filming such different plotlines all the time. Dinklage feels like he's been done with the series for a while. He always sounds bored in interviews, he doesn't like being recognized as the GOT guy, he has always talked about how it's time for everyone to move on. 10 years is a long time to do a job. Hell wasn't it news recently that an actress had her show renewed and said gently caress NO on twitter because she was just ready to move on even if it's like.. here's some guaranteed employment for another year
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# ¿ May 12, 2019 08:08 |
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Euron is the sand snakes of season 8 I don't think the Dany thing came out of nowhere at all, although the response was definitely not proportional. She crucified an entire city like 4 seasons ago and then george w bushed it into chaos, and just like GWB people are ok with that sort of thing "over there" but see it in a different light when it's over here. But to me the one thing I am dissapointed with when it comes to "what I wanted to happen" is just stuff about the lore and background. Loads of details about gods and background players that have no payoff.
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# ¿ May 14, 2019 10:05 |
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:Dany burning Kings landing probably made the Lord of light pretty happy. Ice and fire, fire wins. My wife at one point thought Dany was going crazy because of Melisandre's influence which is too nuanced for the show But like they made it pretty clear early on that hosed up magic has a price and then they sort of just decide to forget that (unless the price is insane dragon queens)
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# ¿ May 14, 2019 10:38 |
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Uh are people sympathetic to Dany who is literally George w bush
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# ¿ May 20, 2019 19:32 |
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:God-Emperor of Mankind YES that’s what this reminds me of. I feel insane that nobody I know who saw the ending saw this angle it’s all “huh bran ? So random”
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# ¿ May 20, 2019 22:08 |
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christmas boots posted:Are we referencing 40k or Dune? I always get my god-emperors mixed up Book 4 of dune where Paul’s son suddenly gets the idea to become a 4000 year old god who rules over humanity shaping them in his perfect plan image. He can also see the future. I really do think they were planting spinoff hooks in that one
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# ¿ May 20, 2019 22:17 |
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Mr_Moose posted:My purposely obtuse interpretation of this last season is that Bran is actually a vengeful godling and he more or less encouraged Dany's war crimes against King's Landing through acts of information warfare because he was miffed about what they let happen to his dad. Also because he's loosely affiliated with whatever the Lord of Light is and could be an Earthly aspect of it, sacrificing innocent people by burning them to death is well within his interests. I think the book was setting up bran as the villain via the 3 eyed raven stuff yes. Why did he warg all the time even when the night king was right there? He changed the past with Hodor there is no way he didn’t keep changing it. “These days I mostly live in the past” Bad execution bran is the villain imo
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# ¿ May 20, 2019 22:27 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 10:13 |
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DoctorGonzo posted:what was the loving point of this show and or the books? War is bad even if you think it’s not. Dany is post 9/11 Bush when everyone was cheering to invade Afghanistan and Iraq (Mereen and Astapor) and thinking ya kill those Civilians because some of them hurt us once. Then you see it from the point of view of the west and you’re like wait, wars in the Middle East... May have been bad! Why are we cheering for this man! But irl the same defense secretary gets to try to invade Iran in 2019
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