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turol posted:Did you disable the force field shielding the bridge door? You must do it and then transport to the bridge anyway to get 100%. I'm talking about Demon World. I know I've gotten 100% in it before, but lately I only ever get 97% and I cannot imagine what it is I'm missing. Hell, I'm even doing EXTRA stuff. If you use McCoy's medical scanner on EVERYONE he says "Jim, I've completed my medical survey and...." but apparently this isn't required for 100%? Am I SUPPOSED to kill the redshirt? I don't get it. McNally fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Apr 24, 2019 |
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Getting the security officer killed, or any member of the away team stunned, counts against you (except for one unavoidable instance in the sequel.)
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 I've re-recorded the final mission, as it stands it still remains incomplete though. I have a few days off next week, hopefully completing it won't take up too much of my time...
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McNally posted:I'm talking about Demon World. I know I've gotten 100% in it before, but lately I only ever get 97% and I cannot imagine what it is I'm missing. Hell, I'm even doing EXTRA stuff. If you use McCoy's medical scanner on EVERYONE he says "Jim, I've completed my medical survey and...." but apparently this isn't required for 100%? Am I SUPPOSED to kill the redshirt? No, you're not supposed to kill the redshirt. Did you... 1. tricorder EVERYTHING 2. give the skull to the alien 3. only take the two items from the display case you need
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turol posted:No, you're not supposed to kill the redshirt. Did you... So far as I know! I know I used to consistently 100% this mission, then one day I started playing and no matter what I'd only get 97%, to the point I'm wondering if it's some kind of weird hardware-related bug.
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McNally posted:So far as I know! I know I used to consistently 100% this mission, then one day I started playing and no matter what I'd only get 97%, to the point I'm wondering if it's some kind of weird hardware-related bug. It's hard to know where you are going wrong without seeing it for ourselves as there's a lot of actions that you can make throughout. The dialogue choices that you make also affect your final score. I followed the walkthrough that I posted and I hit 100%.
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I'm just curious if any of these have entries in the library computer: * Cestus III * Gorn * Botany Bay * Khan Noonien Singh * The Guardian of Forever * Edith Keeler * Janice Rand * Apollo * Trelane * Tribble * Cyrano Jones * Arne Darvin * Matthew Decker * Garth of Izar * Christopher Pike * Talos IV * Talosians * Tholians * Tholian Web * Defiant, USS * Constitution (or "Constitution class") * Chief Kyle * Janice Lester (There's a couple others I was curious about, but mentioning them would be spoilers.) EDIT: A couple more things that I was wondering about/forgot the first time. * Robert April * Triskelion * Sigma Iota II * Pon Farr * Saavik * Valeris * Humpback Whales * Nimbus III * Praxis * Ardea Preax * Vardaine * Ies Breddel (alternate spelling "Bredell" or "Breddell." Interplay was rather inconsistent on this.) * Menao Sheme Snorb fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Apr 27, 2019 |
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Snorb posted:I'm just curious if any of these have entries in the library computer: I'll have a look when I record additional footage next week. Feel free to add the rest, just use the the spoiler BBcode. If anyone else has any suggestions, feel free to add them.
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I had a chance to finish work early today so I decided to tackle the final part of the last episode once and for all. After two solid hours, I finally finished the sequence and have recorded the ending to the game. It could have been a disaster though as I realised that I wasn't recording anything an hour and a half of into trying. I'm feeling a mixture of exhaustion and happiness right now.
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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:I had a chance to finish work early today so I decided to tackle the final part of the last episode once and for all. After two solid hours, I finally finished the sequence and have recorded the ending to the game. It could have been a disaster though as I realised that I wasn't recording anything an hour and a half of into trying.
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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:If anyone else has any suggestions, feel free to add them. Added 'em on in. (And given the last mission of this game, there's a slightly bothersome implication going on with it that'll never be touched upon ever again.)
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 In this episode, we meet an old friend from the television series and explore a ship of unknown origin.
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The first bonus video has been recorded, edited and uploaded. Timestamps are in the video description. I decided to do a computer search for the topics that Snorb listed (apart from the spoilers for now) and also for the main characters. If I have missed anything that people want to see (The snuff video will be separate) or if you want me to check out more computer entries for the next video, let me know. Part 1 - Alternate Scenes Demon World: Defeated by the USS Republic, Off course, Conversations with Prelate Angiven, Trigger Happy, Conversations with the Nauian. Hijacked: Off Course, Conversations with Elasi Cereth, Trigger Happy, A permanent solution to the guards, Disarming the bomb, Not disarming the bomb, Storming the bridge, The other solution. Love's Labor Jeopardized: Creating laughing gas, Chemical warfare, Conversations with Preax. Computer Entries: Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scott, Uhura, Sulu, Chekov (kinda), Tribbles, Pike, Tholians, Tholian Web, USS Defiant and Constitution Class.
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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:If I have missed anything that people want to see (The snuff video will be separate) or if you want me to check out more computer entries for the next video, let me know. Hijacked: Posting the afterparty without the "snuff video" leads to confusing sequence of events with something clearly missing. Love's Labor Jeopardized: You missed releasing the laughing gas. Might also work with TLTDH.
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You asked it in the video, but the security officers on each mission are different-- Everts, Christensen, Finney, Buchert, Straghey, Bennie, Mosher, and Kije. Also, is it just me, does giving some of the Kirk-is-a-Jerk dialogue choices result in the conversations flowing oddly?
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turol posted:Hijacked: Posting the afterparty without the "snuff video" leads to confusing sequence of events with something clearly missing. The snuff video that I was referring too is the death sequences, they will be in a video of their own. I used the laughing gas, it was the first bottle that I used on the vent. Snorb posted:You asked it in the video, but the security officers on each mission are different-- Everts, Christensen, Finney, Buchert, Straghey, Bennie, Mosher, and Kije. I'll include them in the next bonus video.
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I remember there being actually pretty extensive amounts of dialogue with the laughing gas.
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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:I used the laughing gas, it was the first bottle that I used on the vent. You can also release it on this deck for lots of hilarious dialogue.
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turol posted:You can also release it on this deck for lots of hilarious dialogue. Ah, I get it now. I'll be on that for the next video.
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 Part two of two. turol posted:You can also release it on this deck for lots of hilarious dialogue. Okay, I seem to be missing something. I've released each canister in three separate rooms and I'm getting no dialogue apart from "A loud hissing fills the room" and something about Kirk looking troubled.
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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:
The effects of both the NO gas and the TLTDH gas are not immediate.
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Olesh posted:The effects of both the NO gas and the TLTDH gas are not immediate. I'm going to have to test this more another time as the dialogue still isn't triggering for me after twenty minutes. I've already spent two hours recording alternate scenes and a large amount of additional dialogue in episode five and I'm needing a break.
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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:I'm going to have to test this more another time as the dialogue still isn't triggering for me after twenty minutes. I've already spent two hours recording alternate scenes and a large amount of additional dialogue in episode five and I'm needing a break. Sorry for being brief earlier, but I do remember there was a way to trigger states with both types of laughing gas where the relevant crew will randomly interject laughter or strange comments. However, I have no idea what the trigger action is, and I don't have a copy of the game sitting around anymore to test it.
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Perhaps the silly lines aren't in the voiced edition, because (e.g.) the VAs did not want to record singing "I'm a Little Teapot."
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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:Okay, I seem to be missing something. I've released each canister in three separate rooms and I'm getting no dialogue apart from "A loud hissing fills the room" and something about Kirk looking troubled. I'm not sure how I did it, it's been 20 years... Maybe using the bottle on the wrong machine? Also I was using the non-talky version.
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 In this episode, the crew encounter a mythical figure and are forced to undergo a series of trials. So far this has been the most involved episode of them all, there are two pathways you can follow and there's extensive dialogue each way. There's also a way to 100% the mission by being a dick, I'll expand on this more when it comes to the additional footage. I've also found the triggers for the laughing gas and I think that I've recorded all of the dialogue associated with it. It's hard to tell as the dialogue is random and they repeat, but I feel confident that I have spent more time than was necessary to capture everything. It seems like McCoy and Spock are the only two crew members who are affected by the gas, I did try to trigger the gas with Kirk and Ferris, but McCoy was the one who was triggered. I'll upload this footage as a separate video either tonight or tomorrow. Rocket Baby Dolls fucked around with this message at 09:13 on May 4, 2019 |
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Bonus Video: Part 2 - Laughing Gas Spock and McCoy decide to let off some steam during a stressful mission. Rocket Baby Dolls fucked around with this message at 23:24 on May 3, 2019 |
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Star Trek, "white guys were considered gods" was a debunked myth at least as far back the original run, and probably centuries before: it was made up by people completely removed from the actual events as a way to explain their loss, basically the Aztec version of "is it stupidity or treason." The closest we get in contemporary sources is some Aztecs going, "woah, what the gently caress is THAT!" to a guy riding a horse, only to realize a few moments later that it's a guy riding an animal because they weren't retarded. Even then, the ancient Greeks had a similar reaction when they first encountered nomadic horse tribes, hence centaurs.
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Huh. Was not expecting a reference to, of all things, Star Trek V in the laughing gas video. (And nothing from Kirk? I guess DeForest Kelly was more game than Shatner was.)
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I imagine Kelly was a lot cheaper and a lot more available than Shatner was, though you also have to keep in mind that Shatner is also doing most of the speaking as you run around each level and narrating between episodes so they were probably already paying him enough already. Though I wonder how much it did cost them in the end anyway, none of the main cast of the original series seemed to find much success after the show apart from repeatedly reprising their roles. Kinda sucks being type cast I guess, except for Shatner ironically enough, who managed to change his image from iconic starship captain into a caricature of himself instead and get new roles that way. The cast does a good job of it though. And even though I've never played this game myself I always have to stop and watch someone play through it when it comes up - it's just such a well put together game and each of the episodes is unique enough to keep my attention. The next one is my favourite.
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 The trials aren't over yet and the crew are thrust even further into danger. There are a lot of branching dialogue in this part of the game as well as several different ways to resolve the mission. I may end up splitting the bonus footage video it into two parts, there is a major branching point with several new scenes and a completely different set of dialogue. Here is the branching point of the storyline in full, minus the commentary. Even with the different dialogue options, the outcome is always the same. Bonus Video: Part 3 - Alternative resolution to The Feathered Serpent
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As an aside, if you leave Vlict to get killed, his second in command demands to know what happened to him. If you pick enough of the Kirk-is-a-Jerk dialogue choices, you get into a space combat. Once you blow up the D7, Spock tells you that what you did wasn't becoming of a Starfleet officer and files a formal complaint with Starfleet Command. This does not penalize your score. This is the bug I mentioned a while ago. Apparently, Starfleet's fine with their captains deliberately race-baiting Klingons into combat in the 23rd century!
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Bonus Videos This was meant to be one video but the recording corrupted and I was unable to salvage around an hour's worth of recording. I re-recorded scenes that I knew were missing from the corrupted video and I apologise if I have missed any branching dialogue with Vlict. I'm not going to get into details of technical difficulties, my sanity is needing a rest right now. I'm just going to post this in two parts. Part one is the salvaged footage, with which I was thankfully able to churn out a video, and a much shorter video which I've recorded and processed within the last couple of hours. In the second part, I show that you can be a dick in this mission and still get the 100% mark. Part 4a - The Feathered Serpent alternate scenes Conversations with Taraz, Missed away team conversations, Conversations with Quetzecoatl part one, An alternative solution to Tlaoxac, Conversations with Admiral Kenka, Violent protest, Conversations with Vlict, The crew refusing to follow orders again, Escape to the Enterprise, Conversations with Vlict part two. Part 4b - The Feathered Serpent alternate scenes Gem configurations, Conversations with Vlict part three, Conversations with Kallarax. Rocket Baby Dolls fucked around with this message at 23:26 on May 4, 2019 |
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Kirk: Words cannot adequately describe this place. Narrator: You look but see nothing of note.
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I've just replayed the final two chapters in an effort to find bonus footage, apart from a couple of very minor things and a failure message there really isn't anything substantial to put into their own separate video. As it stands right now there are three videos left of the main playthrough to upload and one more bonus video to put together and upload. I'm going to put together the next bonus video and then I will be preparing Judgement Rites soon afterwards. Tiggum posted:Kirk: Words cannot adequately describe this place. Just wait until you see how chatty Kirk is on the next away mission. Rocket Baby Dolls fucked around with this message at 14:36 on May 5, 2019 |
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I think the stretch of "Another Fine Mess," "Feathered Serpent," and the next mission is probably the best run of missions in the game; "Another Fine Mess" just for the whole "walk around the L'Shayan derelict and figure out what did what" aspect, "Feathered Serpent" for the massive amount of dialogue and branching path on Hrakkour, and the next mission because of its exploration aspect. My only real complaints about 25th Anniversary are that I still have no idea how the hell anyone is supposed to figure out the right crystals to use to get Bialbi working, and that the rest of the bridge crew are really underused. Sure, Scotty fixes the ship, but "Shields repaired, Captain!" "Hull repaired, Captain!" "Phasers repaired, Captain!" are hardly plot-essential contributions. And save for two small bits, Uhura's role reminds me of the part of Shatner's Star Trek Memories where she joked she "didn't have to read the loving script because I already KNOW how to say 'Hailing frequencies open!'" I wonder if this would have been better if you could pick an away team like in the NES version (and even that limited you to Spock, McCoy, unnamed blueshirts Geologist, Historian, and Biologist, and redshirt Security Officers that actually shoot back when threatened.)
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Snorb posted:I think the stretch of "Another Fine Mess," "Feathered Serpent," and the next mission is probably the best run of missions in the game; "Another Fine Mess" just for the whole "walk around the L'Shayan derelict and figure out what did what" aspect, "Feathered Serpent" for the massive amount of dialogue and branching path on Hrakkour, and the next mission because of its exploration aspect. It's not for nothing that Star Trek 25th Anniversary Edition and the sequel, Judgement Rites, can be considered a more or less an unofficial final season to the original series, and Judgement Rites capitalizes on (and improves upon) the success of 25th Anniversary Edition. It's superior to the first game in nearly every way, and hopefully Rocket Baby Dolls continues on with it after finishing the first game.
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Snorb posted:I think the stretch of "Another Fine Mess," "Feathered Serpent," and the next mission is probably the best run of missions in the game; "Another Fine Mess" just for the whole "walk around the L'Shayan derelict and figure out what did what" aspect, "Feathered Serpent" for the massive amount of dialogue and branching path on Hrakkour, and the next mission because of its exploration aspect. I have no idea how people are meant to work out the gem combinations other than trial and error. I believe that the bridge crew get more lines in Judgement Rites but I'm not exactly sure how much more. We will find out soon enough. I think that the main problem with being able to choose your away team was the amount of time and money that they would have had to further invest in development. Another problem that I can think of is that they were probably concerned about the size of the game. Most of the final episode was cut out of the floppy disc version. Olesh posted:It's not for nothing that Star Trek 25th Anniversary Edition and the sequel, Judgement Rites, can be considered a more or less an unofficial final season to the original series, and Judgement Rites capitalizes on (and improves upon) the success of 25th Anniversary Edition. It's superior to the first game in nearly every way, and hopefully Rocket Baby Dolls continues on with it after finishing the first game. Judgement Rites will follow after the conclusion of this LP. I did a test run of the first episode earlier and it went smoothly for the most of it. The only problem that I'm having with the game is the volume levels and the lack of control over them. The volume of the music is high and the volume of the voices seem even lower in this game. It's going to take a little bit of fine tuning before I commit to a proper recording session.
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