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Looking to buy some all seasons for my Odyssey. Michelin cross climate 2 or defender 2 are what I'm looking at since they're going on sale at Costco on the 28th. The defenders are a newer tire so I don't know much about them but have heard the cross climate is a great tire all around including snow but noisy and harsher. The newer defenders supposedly have less grip overall and aren't as good in the snow but last longer (80k vs 60k warranty) and are quieter/ride better. I've got some older defenders on the car now that made me confident enough to not buy snow tires and wheels since they were good enough in the snow. The interior is noisy as hell anyway because it's a big rear end van so maybe noise is less of a concern. They're not far off on price, like 20 or 30 bucks different per with the cross climate being more expensive. Help my indecisive rear end choose. The defenders are probably good enough but my race van will have more grip with the cross climates...  I just got there not too harsh and loud. Anybody have experience with them?
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Dec 23, 2022 02:12
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Detroit area. We don't get lake effect snow and it's been pretty mild the last few years. I still have to commute a couple times per week.
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Dec 23, 2022 18:02
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Alright thanks. 10 years? Won't they be cracked and dry rotted by then? I thought tires had about a 5 year lifespan or so.
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Dec 23, 2022 21:59
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Michelin will be on sale at Costco soon and Bridgestone is on promo now. Wife's car has a set of winters already and will need new tires for her "rest of year" wheels. What should I put on her outback? I'm thinking whatever they have for cheapish is probably sufficient. I know the Bridgestone will be cheaper but not sure if there's anything to actively avoid. No spirited driving, just commuting really. Michigan so poo poo roads and it's pothole season. Suburban Dad fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Apr 8, 2023 |
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Apr 8, 2023 21:29
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Alarbus posted:Sure, but the cheapest tires at Costco are still pretty decent. Exactly. I'm not buying Chinese no name tires or something. I went with the Bridgestone alenza ultra since they seemed to have better reviews than the michelins that were about the same price.
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Apr 8, 2023 23:43
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I'd take more sidewall for the same price.
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Sep 7, 2023 01:16
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Number_6 posted:3 When they won't last 10k miles, I don't see the problem with age. 
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Sep 14, 2023 01:40
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There are SAE standards for everything and then there's these jokers.
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Sep 14, 2023 12:25
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fknlo posted:Anyone have any experience with the cross climate 2? They'd be going on an F30 330i RWD that does a long daily highway commute in Missouri. So 4 seasons with winter being hit or miss on snow with some ice thrown in. I have a second wheelset with winters on them but feel weird having a winter set and then an all season set since actual summers aren't going to happen for fuel mileage and longevity reasons. I put them on my fatass van ('12 Odyssey) and they were fine in Detroit last winter. That car has a ton of mass to it and we didn't get much snow last winter, though. I don't calculate mpg and big vehicles like this are loud as gently caress anyway so I didn't notice much difference to what it had before (michelin defender I think). I think it's silly to have a sporty car with a dedicated summer set of wheels with compromise tires, personally. You do you though.
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Oct 3, 2023 13:43
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priznat posted:Posted this in the questions thread after a quick look for a tire thread but didn’t see this one until someone asked about a tire thread. So this seems like the right spot. Tire rack is pretty good for inputting a car and seeing if they offer a smaller size for winters. You can see the specs of the wheels they offer and order wherever. The offset is going to be pretty important if 18s do fit.
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Nov 4, 2023 18:23
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I have the cross climate on my fat rear end van in Michigan as my only wheel and tire set. It's pretty decent in snow and fine otherwise.
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