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Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
gosh there are so many racist dudes playing this game! you'd think typing the n-word would be an autoban but it's probably 80% of the chat's vocabulary

game's fun though

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Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
the problem is that people treat enemy horses like they're Reaper in Gold-tier Overwatch -- they pretend the scary horse doesn't exist and hope it doesn't kill them instead of actually contesting it

like dang, the horse's health doesn't regenerate, if all of our team tries to hit the horse every time it rides by/fires or throws things at the horse, it should go down quick

just don't ignore the dang horse!

the same goes for dudes who manage to get on the enemy ballista on the castle in Grad and fire into blue team's back. For some reason people straight-up cannot figure out when this happens

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Babe Magnet posted:

I feel like it has something to do with just how easy it is to change your steam handle. Like, an auto-flag system may not work because thousands of people are constantly changing their name around, maybe it can't handle it. I dunno, I do make an effort to report a lot of the really bad and obviously lovely stuff though.


Solution: everyone gets a National Gamer ID at birth which you use across all games. If you get banned on a game for typing a heated Gamer Word then that’s it for you, buster

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

NigelThornberry posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LbYHo3K0J4
I wasn't aware of just how easy the cav life is until I tried, I still feel a little dirty. *goes back to being cav scum in secret*

I am not good at this game but one thing I do is that every time I hear or see a horse I try to contest it, like throw something at the horse or try to stab or whatever, and when I see clips like this it's easy to figure out why the horse is still alive when I've hit it for 30+ damage three times in two minutes -- 90% of the player base's anti-horse strategy is "pretend the scary horse doesn't exist"

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

cerebral posted:

I've become convinced that the power of horses in this game is largely psychological. If people would adopt your attitude and actually fight against them, they would crumple, and we wouldn't see dudes going 56 and 3 playing my little pony for an entire round. If archers would shoot them, that would also be magical, but I won't hold my breath waiting on that, much better to fire arrows from spawn in hopes that they magically land on an enemy out of visual range.

this is exactly it, if everyone just acknowledged that the horse existed and took a swing at it or shot at it it'd be able to make one pass around the battlefield before it crumpled

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Avynte posted:

I'm normally one for always mashing auto-assign, but red on crossroads is too cathartic to pass up. Chilling in the ammo tower with a longbow, if you toss enough arrows out, that magical headshot on a harassing rider feels so good. And they all follow the same circles around too.

I spent a round playing billhook wild weasel on the outside and I think I killed horses just as often as I got killed, which is fine by me since I'm also counting all the kills they could have gotten but didn't because I hooked them off their ride and beat their heads in

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Moose King posted:

My biggest complaint about horses is that you can only aim 90 degrees to the side with a bow. A horse archer should be able to aim almost 180 degrees to their left, M&B even had this! How am I supposed to get my Mongol on if I can't run away and shoot arrows at the same time?

M&B wouldn't let you aim too far to the right either IIRC

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Telltolin posted:

I have noticed that people play cavalry almost identically to mount&blade - as in, hitting people once from behind who are already engaged fighting, and then dipping regardless of whether they get the kill or not. I guess that kinda hit&run is probably the most effective use of horses, since stopping near enemies would be bad for your health - but the fact that they're so much harder to hit/kill with melee weapons is a bit of a bummer. It's also harder to see them coming in mordhau, compared to warband's zoomed-out third person. As a result most of my interaction with cavalry has been me saying "what just killed me outta nowhere?" Really, the only thing I'd change is to reduce the bump radius around the horse (which seems to be a common complaint), and add extra momentum damage for hits against riders that are hit while moving quickly. I'd say that they need louder hoofbeats so you can tell when they're up on you, but they might already and it's my dumb fault for listening to stuff while playing and having the game fairly quiet.

The hoofbeats are pretty loud, might just be me though

Really I think the horses need to be slowed or stop when stabbed from the front by a polearm but otherwise they're not so bad as long as people pay attention to them and take a swing at them or throw things at them. Actually if everyone did this reliably horses would be extremely underpowered because you wouldn't make it around the arena once.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Phlegmish posted:

If you take a swing it leaves you wide open to getting insta-wrecked by them, and even if that doesn't happen you'll get flinched out of your attack animation nine times out of ten. I still do it because I hate them so much, but it's not very cost-effective.

Throwing poo poo at them is sound, though

true but if they're not specifically targeting you it's pretty easy to get a good swing or thrust in

regardless it's better than doing what most people do, which is nothing

across pretty much every multiplayer game far too many players let their opponents do whatever they want with no counterplay. like I can get biting on feints all the time but even if you suck (I suck!) you can do SOMETHING

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

mellowjournalism posted:

the loving parry

gotta get that timing down

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
I feel like firebombs rarely have a legit impact on whether the game is won or lost but they do end up being a "you have to stop playing the game for 10 seconds" button

don't think they should be removed but I feel like maybe they could be more impactful and less annoying?

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Qubee posted:

my fav are the cata users who miss every shot, and then finally manage to land a big bombah of a hit except it's all teamkills. then they cry when someone goes and teamkills them for being poo at the game. or those ballista dudes who camp the entire game on it and just miss every shot, adding nothing to the fight, or skewering a teammate. actually, now that we're on this topic: gently caress javelin users / archers who get point blank in a fight and then whomp you in the back instead of the enemy you're just about to kill. amount of times I'm swinging a killing blow only to die to one of these teammates, it's like ruined orgasm levels of horrible.

I had one game on Camp where red was pushing to take River, and we'd just about capped it, and then a catapult idiot landed a six-person TK, and I'm almost entirely certain that one shot lost us the game, because we were never able to retake it

I told him as such in the team chat and he said "you're just mad because you suck" and while that may be true overall I was at the top of the leaderboard in this one so joke's on you, buddy!

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Borsche69 posted:

Just TK these people

it was too late! the damage had been done

still think this would be fixed by a National Gamer ID system where all bans are permabans but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Commoners posted:

I've found a new hobby for camp that contributes to nothing. Just run into the field with 0/0/0 and a billhook and fight the horsemen in open ground.

seeing as armor is basically useless against a good shot from a horse I approve this

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
I liked the solution Mount&Blade had where people could simply hack your shield to pieces

IT'S REALISTIC

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

cerebral posted:

Getting killed multiple times by the same catapult guy is pretty much the only thing that will get a negative comment out of me in chat. Everything else is relentlessly obnoxious positivity. Once in awhile I'll say something like, "Play the points please," but other than that it's all, "You guys are doing great!" "If we lose, I want you all to know that I blame myself." "I'm proud of all of you!"

I get called lots and lots of horrible things.

Sometimes I ask people to please go to the point and also take a swing at the 50-2 horselord

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
implement National Gamer ID, the minute you're racist in-game you can't play that game anymore ever again

if you try to get someone else's National Gamer ID you go to Superjail

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Babe Magnet posted:

Also watching dudes rage at tiny poo poo has always been fun and will continue to be, heated gamer moments be damned. Someone was raging about spawncamping the other night lol

if you get spawncamped in Mordhau that round was long-over anyways lol

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
"socialism or barbarism" used to reliably get the grognards super angry in MechWarrior Online and I'd imagine it'd do the same thing here

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
Swing or stab earlier than you think you need to, and don't stand still

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
Switching to billhook is such a legit counter to horses that it amazes me how rarely you see it. I joined a Crossroads server where Red decided to ignore the scary Blue horses, switched to Billhook, and dehorsed 15 of them. Just me! And I suck!

Imagine what TWO would do. Or three.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
Horses are only dangerous if your team doesn't pay attention, because if even like five people have their headphones on and take a swing at them the horseman makes one pass at best before being dehorsed

unfortunately since no teams pay attention, horses are always at least a little dangerous

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Qubee posted:

Makes me really want to take part in coordinated clan battles. It was a shame to see how hard some players in the blue team were trying. Three or four players would spawn in as heavily armoured guys with no weapons and just smoke bombs, then attempt to carry in a keg. Other dudes would just fully kit out in smoke bombs and have no armour on. Then you look at the rest of their team, and it's just morons fighting miles away from the point in their own personal skirmishes instead of overwhelming the objective.

In many multiplayer games, there comes a time when there is exactly one (1) place players need to be, but 90% of players will somehow find a way to be somewhere else

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Chomp8645 posted:

When was the last time you saw even 10 archers in a match, much less on the same team?


Archer-complaints mystify me. There are rarely more than two or three to a team. Almost nobody plays them because they aren't good. At least talking about actual "I have a bow/crossbow" archers, no throwing weapons counted.

yeah at best when I get killed it's due to an archer maybe ... 5% of the time? Mostly the worst they do is make me wait behind cover for a few seconds for my health to regen

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
the extra stuff is good because running up on an archer or artilleryman who's got blinders on and introducing their head to Consequences is a great feeling

as is billhooking a knight off a horse and then following up with the coup de grace. v. satisfying

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
it turns out if you do a kind of vertical accel where you look up as you begin your stab and then look at your opponent as the animation completes that a lot of people have trouble reading it

more so than if you were dragging or accelerating a swing, for example

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Jabarto posted:

This was a classic move for sword-of-war knights in Chiv, too. It almost feels like cheating when I do it with the Estoc since it has the longest stab release of any weapon.

I feel like it'd probably work really well with those weapons with weird stab anims like the war(?)axe

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Lawman 0 posted:

Also can someone explain to me if it's ever worth it to have a backup weapon when I can just pick one off the ground?

yeah not really. that's points that can go toward armor or perks or throwables

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Qubee posted:


People in this game are actual degenerates. I've had so much racial abuse thrown at me cause my Steam profile name is slightly ethnic because the only friends I have on Steam are real life friends. Managed to get someone banned, allegedly. Devs said he'd be banned from the game but I never found out if it actually worked.

National Game ID attached to your social security number, instant and permanent ban from that individual game for excessive Gamerness, overwhelmingly harsh and unappealable penalties for using someone else's ID

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Jabarto posted:

Messer and buckler on a light armor character was the most successful build I ever played, messer and heater is probably just as good since it allows allows for full armor.

Seriously the messer is brokenly good.

The messer always seems to have four or five inches more reach than it should

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Chomp8645 posted:

Still random, unprovoked racism in chat sometimes

sounds like you lucked out. you get all kinds of racist usernames as well and the devs will never do anything about it

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

twoski posted:

Isn't there a built-in slur filter option, as well as the option to disable chat? I personally have no use for the text chat in the first place, it's not like you can really strategize with your team in a game like this. People do what they want to do.

you can motivational mute folks or just mute them

or do the proper thing and hide chat entirely

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Gobblecoque posted:

Are there customization options other than white male yet?

no, because the devs probably agree with the worst parts of their playerbase it's really hard to program!!!

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Dungeon Ecology posted:

to the history purists that blindly say "well you can't have a black knight because there weren't any black knights," you're forgetting completely that a) history is inherently revisionist, b) race is a social construct and medieval europe was filled with a variety of ethnicities, including north africans, c) it's a loving video game where people dress up like shrek, play pokemon music on the lute, and shoot each other with actually-in-the-loving-game pistols.

so yeah, lets have an inclusive skin tone slider and a male-female option plz

release the saracen DLC and make the inferior European longswords shatter against the pure elegance of the scimitar

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Morality_Police posted:

I just picked this up on a whim since it was on sale on Steam, glad to hear people still play it. I'd have been sad if I loaded it up and found nothing but bots and lifers playing.

well, it's bots, lifers, and nazis

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

don't worry, the devs will do something about it eventually lmao

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
also the typical racism in a game of Mordhau is very, uh, conscious

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

DreadCthulhu posted:

How do I get good? I'm still not fully getting the mechanics. For example, I swing, the guy blocks, he swings back, I block, and swing back, and we just go back and forth like that forever until someone manages to land a blow. Seems like feigning is the path to godhood here?

feints, morphs, accels/drags, footwork

honestly if you incorporate a thrust-morph-into-overhand a lot of players will bite on it

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
Does this game still have hella Nazis in it all the time

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Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Ben Quebec posted:

you'll find your answer the first time you fight someone named DeusVult88

which should be about a minute into your first match

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