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teagone posted:Ana de Armas as a bond girl? If they bring in Armand Assante then they’ll have my attention.
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the studio went ahead with spectre despite everyone involved with production seeing the script and knowing it was a soggy turd so i'm not optimistic about things if they're already triaging with a new screenwriter
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Jose Oquendo posted:So far the only confirmed location is Jamaica. They are filming at the same locations they used for Dr. No. Aside from Jamaica theres literally nothing indicating this Edit: they confirmed London, Norway and Italy as locations too Cacator fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Apr 26, 2019 |
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Violator posted:If they bring in Armand Assante then they’ll have my attention. As a bond girl? 
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Ana is a babe and Rami as a younger villain to Craig’s broody old man will be a nice contrast that isn’t really done much in Bond. View to a Kill was the closest and even then they didn’t capitalise on it and instead acted like Moore was in his prime. I hope the movie is not a remake of Dr No or whatever, I liked that Skyfall was basically a sequel to Goldeneye and was more or less a deboot that brought Craig back to being the old Prereboot era Bond. By comparison Spectre and Quantum were really weak follow ups to Casino Royale and I’d prefer that the movie moved on from that and did its own thing.
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Jose Oquendo posted:So far the only confirmed location is Jamaica. They are filming at the same locations they used for Dr. No. They've already filmed in Norway.
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Apr 26, 2019 07:23
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So, I guess they either go Quantum of Solace redux and carry on a second part story from Spectre (Which I hope not, because it was trash), or they just Diana Rigg Lea Seadoux. Though it would however be funny to see a mopey James Bond having been dumped after it becomes clear he has too many issues to actually have a long lasting relationship. Ana is a fantastic pick for a Bond girl as well, but the age gap makes me a bit queasy if they're going to partner her up with Craig in some way.
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Weasling Weasel posted:Ana is a fantastic pick for a Bond girl as well, but the age gap makes me a bit queasy if they're going to partner her up with Craig in some way. Yeah, it's not as bad as Roger Moore and Tanya Roberts (when prepping for A View to a Kill, Moore was terrified upon learning that not only was he old enough to be Roberts' father, but he was also literally older than her mother), but it would definitely be squicky.
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If you haven't Dr.No for a long time, you should do it again. It could have been a low budget disaster, but no, they pulled it off. And the fish in Dr. No's aquarium were just stock footagequote:The budget for Dr No was under $1m for the whole picture. My budget was £14,500. I filled three stages at Pinewood full of sets while they were filming in Jamaica. It wasn't a real aquarium in Dr No's apartment. It was a disaster to tell you the truth because we had so little money. We decided to use a rear projection screen and get some stock footage of fish. What we didn't realise was because we didn't have much money the only stock footage they could buy was of goldfish-sized fish, so we had to blow up the size and put a line in the dialogue with Bond talking about the magnification. I didn't see any reason why Dr No shouldn't have good taste so we mixed contemporary furniture and antiques. We thought it would be fun for him to have some stolen art so we used Goya's Portrait of the Duke of Wellington, which was still missing at the time. I got hold of a slide from the National Gallery - this was on the Friday, shooting began on the Monday - and I painted a Goya over the weekend. It was pretty good so they used it for publicity purposes but, just like the real one, it got stolen while it was on display.[15] Thankfully they cut some scenes from the book, like the fight agains the squid. Bond and Honey are also naked on the island, but they could obviously not film that. Also Bond doesn't explain why the mix of Blacks (can you guess the word I replaced?) and Chinese are the worst people ever  .Also, Octopussy is great. Jojo-Saw for the win.
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R. Guyovich posted:the studio went ahead with spectre despite everyone involved with production seeing the script and knowing it was a soggy turd so i'm not optimistic about things if they're already triaging with a new screenwriter It really is astounding how long they take to crank these films out now and they still end up as weird messes. Like that whole torture chair they were saying cost however many million to construct, I assume they only kept that stupid scene in the film because they had wasted so much money on that chair prop. Anyway, this stupid editorial came up on my google news and I mostly agree with it. https://nypost.com/2019/04/27/how-whiney-daniel-craig-killed-james-bond/ Craig is probably the best actor, and definitely has some of the best directors and cinematography, but his movies are such a slog.
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Payndz posted:I also dislike the movie-to-movie progression (that also happened in the Star Trek reboot) of: I strongly agree with this. The end of Skyfall setting up Mallory as the new M and "promising" that the next film was going to be a straight mission, no interconnectedness, no going rogue was the biggest setup for the great disappointment that was Spectre. (I still think Spectre was actually a better movie than Skyfall though.)
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~Coxy posted:(I still think Spectre was actually a better movie than Skyfall though.) ...same... I do want this movie to be good, but I won't get my hopes up. I'll watch any crap they churn out and slap Bond's name on, but it's still really funny how difficult it seems to be to actually make these dumb things.
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I guess I’m weird cause I think all the Craig movies have been at least decent. I actually thought Spectre was really good! Sure everything with Blofeld is ridiculous but that’s a plus in my book. The key to a good Bond movie for me is mood and atmosphere and Spectre has a distinct, surreally slick vibe to it that I like.
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Spectre should have ended with the explosion of Blofeld's base and him escaping. And C being taken care of at the same time, by the others. James Bond running throught the old base with these pictures hanging around was pretty dumb. Blofeld could have been recast like in the good old days. I don't think he will be in the next one, right?
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Spectre has one of the best opening sequences in the series but it quickly falls apart after that (Radiohead's theme is far superior to the forgettable Sam Smith song for one thing), the car chase in Rome couldn't be more boring, Bautista was wasted, and the attempt to connect all of Craig's movies never felt anything more than contrived. The Austin Powers in Goldmember plot point (and the Star Trek Into Darkness "reveal" of Blofeld) were just pointless. Just let Blofeld be Blofeld for chrissakes, nobody cares. They shouldn't have put so much effort into Bond settling down with Madeleine Swann either because most of her dialogue boils down to "what's that?" Edit: they also really let everyone in the theatre down when M says "guess we know what C stands for" and Ralph Fiennes DOESN’T say "oval office" Cacator fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Apr 29, 2019 |
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There was no point in bringing Blofeld into the mix when they had a Bond who was already so close to being done with the role. There was no way it wasn't going to be a waste, I mean even if Waltz had knocked it out of the park and the movie was a huge hit, you've still got Craig looking for the exit and maybe one more movie in him if you're lucky. It was just totally unnecessary and feels like a desperate move, which is weird considering they were coming off probably the most well-received entry of Craig's run in Skyfall.
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Basebf555 posted:There was no point in bringing Blofeld into the mix when they had a Bond who was already so close to being done with the role. Story wise, yeah. But they waited and worked so hard getting this character and organization name back, they had to use it. But they hosed it up.
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CelticPredator posted:Story wise, yeah. A little patience would have been rewarded I think. Let Craig ride off into the sunset, recast Bond and when that next Bond debuts in 2021 or whatever you start his run with a Blofeld storyline in mind right from the beginning.
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Cacator posted:(Radiohead's theme is far superior to the forgettable Sam Smith song for one thing) The Sam Smith song is literally the demo take, no joke.
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~Coxy posted:I strongly agree with this. LesterGroans posted:...same... Skyfall is a very trendy movie that basically owes its entire existence to The Dark Knight, but it's still good. Setting aside its dumb plot and completely shitass writer's block of a final act, Spectre isn't even fun to watch for spectacle purposes. The car chase is terrible. It's a very pretty movie but at least when you watch Blade Runner 2049 you kinda expect nothing much to happen plot-wise.
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It’s insane to me that Spectre cost $250 million to make
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:It’s insane to me that Spectre cost $250 million to make  What the gently caress did they spend a quarter of a billion dollars on in that movie, other than possibly behind-the-scenes grift?
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Payndz posted:
Assuming that includes marketing costs, I can see the marketing + Craig's salary adding up to like 100 mil on it's own.
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Payndz posted:
Didn't they do the largest practical explosion ever filmed, then viewers barely noticed it? I seem to remember that happening.
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wdarkk posted:Didn't they do the largest practical explosion ever filmed, then viewers barely noticed it? I seem to remember that happening. Another big contributing factor was I remember talk about how they went to so many different exotic locations to film really ballooned the cost. The series has always been globe hopping, but I don't think that means you actually have to transport the crew across the planet several times over.
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wdarkk posted:Didn't they do the largest practical explosion ever filmed, then viewers barely noticed it? I seem to remember that happening. Wasn't that Quantum?
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Timby posted:Wasn't that Quantum? The base explosion in Spectre has the Guinness record for biggest explosion in a film, but I don't know if it was also most expensive. They did destroy like 30 million dollars worth of cars for Spectre which is absolutely hilarious.
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I'd completely forgotten about the base explosion until now, which shows how underwhelming it was. Bond disinterestedly god-modes his way out of the base, then there's an explosion which for all its scale is regarded by the characters and by extension the audience as if someone's popped a crisp packet. With that and the ridiculous self-indulgence of the single-shot opening, I can only imagine that the director went "I didn't even want to do this, but you're paying me an ungodly amount of money and are apparently suckers, so I'm going to take the piss."
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Spectre was the only Bond film I’ve fallen asleep watching in the theater
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Wasn't Skyfall their biggest hit ever? I'm guessing that emboldened them.
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Yep, everything you guys are saying is why I like the movie! At least we can agree that it would be dumb to have the movie open with Lea Seydoux getting OHMSS'd, right? Whatever route they go there, I hope it's not that.
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nemesis_hub posted:Yep, everything you guys are saying is why I like the movie! this is exactly what's going to happen
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The moment it was announced she was coming back, I bet one of my friends that she'd be fridged in Act 1 as motivation for Bond to go after the bad guy. Cf the Bournes Supremacy and Jason. I'll honestly be more surprised if they don't kill her off.
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The comedic scene with the small car during the car chase in Spectre is messing me up. It is a Roger Moore moment and it doesn't fit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvZAXiqr_D0&t=96s Music switching from diagetic to non diagetic and back again, then that man in his small car and then the airbag opening in the end. This comes right after the very dramatic meeting scene. I thought the joke should be at the end of the scene, to release the tension. It's a tonal mess. Which brings me to my favourite joke that misses in the franchise. A woman that drops her tomatoes (cherries?), because of the chase at the beginning of Quantum of Solace. She literally says "Mama Mia" afterwards. Nobody notices it, because it's terrible and the editing ruins the timing. This also comes right after some random woman was shot in public. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHjJrTdCKMQ&t=147s I don't want to compare these scenes with the one in Moonraker, which is a joke all the way through. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUX2Mj4SN7o&t=134s Edit: Man with bottle has his own IMDB page: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079574/characters/nm0869644?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t76 He was the second unit director, with cameos in the movies before. AstroWhale fucked around with this message at 09:17 on May 1, 2019 |
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Apparently one of the originally intended dialogue scenes at the end of Spectre had Bond saying “we have all the time in the world” as he drives off with Swann so yeah they definitely intended to OHMSS her.
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AFoolAndHisMoney posted:Apparently one of the originally intended dialogue scenes at the end of Spectre had Bond saying “we have all the time in the world” as he drives off with Swann so yeah they definitely intended to OHMSS her. Oh wow! Interesting.
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AFoolAndHisMoney posted:Apparently one of the originally intended dialogue scenes at the end of Spectre had Bond saying “we have all the time in the world” as he drives off with Swann so yeah they definitely intended to OHMSS her. This is also how OHMSS was supposed to end originally with Tracy killed at the start of YOLT.
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AstroWhale posted:The comedic scene with the small car during the car chase in Spectre is messing me up. It is a Roger Moore moment and it doesn't fit. Also the movie looks like it was shot through a jar of piss.
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Convince me that that voice isn't Leslie Nielsen. I can't find any evidence that it is, but that's loving Leslie Nielsen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iP2lTkUvEw
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Pneub posted:Convince me that that voice isn't Leslie Nielsen. I can't find any evidence that it is, but that's loving Leslie Nielsen: I'm pretty sure they had Richard Kiel dub the line in after the fact since he couldn't talk with the teeth in. Here's a random Letterman interview from the 80s to compare: https://youtu.be/666ZjLucACg
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