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Darko
Dec 23, 2004

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I've never been quite sure how you define a dive bar, Cheers always came off far more as your cosy local. Moe's is a dive bar.

From working in bars and being in them too much; Cheers is the neighborhood bar that gets a decent happy hour crowd from a wide range of people, and not a dive. All the extras are dressed like well-off working people, the bar hires and ex sports player, and it has a pretty well-paid manager. Bars that have similar around me make millions a year in sales, and Boston is the same size. Dives only get regulars, mostly old, from the neighborhood and are kind of barely hang on. They don't make enough to really separate managers from bartenders, either.

Pairing red with fish is a really, really rookie movie and that *should* have tipped Bond off immediately. As said earlier in this thread, it's just like holding up the wrong fingers; no one with any secret agent training wouldn't have basic etiquette training. Funny thing is, I think I learned wine pairings initially from seeing that movie a million times as a kid.

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gohuskies
Oct 23, 2010

I spend a lot of time making posts to justify why I'm not a self centered shithead that just wants to act like COVID isn't a thing.

Darko posted:

Pairing red with fish is a really, really rookie movie and that *should* have tipped Bond off immediately. As said earlier in this thread, it's just like holding up the wrong fingers; no one with any secret agent training wouldn't have basic etiquette training. Funny thing is, I think I learned wine pairings initially from seeing that movie a million times as a kid.

Yes, I bet red wine with fish would be a dead giveaway now more than in the 1960s, because of people having seen From Russia With Love and not from knowing how to order well.

Matinee
Sep 15, 2007

I always preferred the moment when Bond catches out Mr Wint with a stony “but Mouton Rothschild is a claret”.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


Matinee posted:

I always preferred the moment when Bond catches out Mr Wint with a stony “but Mouton Rothschild is a claret”.

This one at least is true. No red wine with fish is purely an upper class French affectation. It is funny that it’s become received wisdom in the U.S. though

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I've never been quite sure how you define a dive bar, Cheers always came off far more as your cosy local. Moe's is a dive bar.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

DeimosRising posted:

This one at least is true. No red wine with fish is purely an upper class French affectation. It is funny that it’s become received wisdom in the U.S. though

I'm pretty sure there's probably a direct throughline there for a few reasons.

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...
I've recently discovered Franck Pourcel's funky 1973 James Bond instrumental cover album (it goes under a wide variety of names, usually something like "James Bond's Greatest Hits" or "Live and Let Die" since that was the contemporaneous film) and it is glorious. For me it manages to hit that sweet spot of just the right amount of kitsch (because it's due almost entirely to its shameless embrace of being modern/ dated/ 70s and not because it was actually trying to be cheesy) and being genuinely listenable and awesome.

Finding an actual copy to purchase (even legal downloads) is a tough task but I believe most streaming sites have it.

My favorite track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NACP0WkRhrE

An album sampler:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITRhqqbBLKU

Feel free to laugh at my awful taste if you must, but I make no apologies. This album is a goddamn masterpiece.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

OK, I was sold the first time little guitar counter melody popped in, and I went, "wtf is this Bonanza poo poo?"

Space Jam
Jul 22, 2008

apparently Aaron Taylor-Johnson has been maybe offered to be the next 007. maybe.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-68601151

Space Jam fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Mar 19, 2024

PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

Space Jam posted:

apparently Aaron Taylor-Johnson has been maybe offered to be the next 007. maybe.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-68601151

My understand was that he was being courted last year but they wanted to see how Kraven performed before locking him in, however with that delayed and Bond production wanting to spin up they might just bite the bullet and offer it him.

I personally think he's dull as dishwater.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Space Jam posted:

apparently Aaron Taylor-Johnson has been maybe offered to be the next 007. maybe.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-68601151

I haven't seen enough of him, but what I've seen I've liked. Mostly Kick-rear end (meh on the movie, but he was good in it) and Godzilla. I don't count him in Age of Ultron, because he was given nothing to do. I heard he was good in Bullet Train, but I haven't seen it yet.

peekaboo gangster
Sep 12, 2003


Space Jam posted:

apparently Aaron Taylor-Johnson has been maybe offered to be the next 007. maybe.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-68601151

He is certainly someone who would not overshadow the role but I figure they'd likely go with more of an unknown.

then again, my choice of Dev Patel was always going to be a pipe dream

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Leaving aside my thoughts about him specifically, I don't remember the last time I felt my age as strongly as just now, realizing the next Bond actor could be younger than me.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
That is an AWFUL pick. He's one of the most generic boring actors I can think of.

Matinee
Sep 15, 2007

His only role I can think of that’s like a “soft audition” for bond (Like Craig with Layer Cake) is Tenet, and most people forget he was in that.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Matinee posted:

His only role I can think of that’s like a “soft audition” for bond (Like Craig with Layer Cake) is Tenet, and most people forget he was in that.

I did indeed forget he was in Tenet.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



thrawn527 posted:

I did indeed forget he was in Tenet.

The beard and incomprehensible sound mix will do that.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

The next bond should be a no-name bodybuilder pulled out of the local gym as is cheesy action hero tradition. Bond has made far too much money for them to actually do this, but that doesn't make it the true and proper way.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

They need to stop loving around and get this poo poo into production

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



Gaius Marius posted:

They need to stop loving around and get this poo poo into production

Shot for shot remake of Dr. No, starring a juuuuust slightly CGI uncanny valley Sean Connery, with everyone else played by muppets.

ynohtna
Feb 16, 2007

backwoods compatible
Illegal Hen
Ncuti Gatwa as the next Bond.

Xenomrph posted:

Shot for shot remake of Dr. No, starring a juuuuust slightly CGI uncanny valley Sean Connery, with everyone else played by muppets.

Or this! (Can I get a muppetized Zardoz, too, please.)

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I'd still love to see them have an actor as Bond who for once gets to start the gig before they turn 30. That way they can actually mature into the role over time and won't be pushing 50 by the time audiences get attached to them.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

ynohtna posted:

Ncuti Gatwa as the next Bond.

Who?

Human Tornada
Mar 4, 2005

I been wantin to see a honkey dance.

Matinee posted:

His only role I can think of that’s like a “soft audition” for bond (Like Craig with Layer Cake) is Tenet, and most people forget he was in that.

Bullet Train was kind of this.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

I think Johnson in Bullet Train was better than Craig was in Layer Cake. I'm a huge Craig sceptic though. Also I don't think Layer Cake is very good

man nurse
Feb 18, 2014


I remember the universal skepticism at Craig’s announcement, myself included. He turned out to be my favorite.

I will reserve all judgement until we get a movie. He seems like he looks the part at least.

Class3KillStorm
Feb 17, 2011



man nurse posted:

I remember the universal skepticism at Craig’s announcement, myself included. He turned out to be my favorite.

I will reserve all judgement until we get a movie. He seems like he looks the part at least.

This is where I'm at, but Craig also took the skepticism personally and doubled-down on getting in shape and proving everyone wrong. I don't know if Taylor-Johnson will have the same attitude about it.

Either way, I expected them to go with a lighter touch, more in the Moore or Brosnan style, after the hard-bitten morose realism of the Craig era, and if nothing else, Taylor-Johnson would definitely fit into that mold fairly well, looking at some of his other action projects. I just worry that he doesn't have the star-power/charisma to carry a film on his back if the script isn't working the way most of the other Bond actors could. (I know Kraven was supposed to be the test of this, but all of the Sony Spider-Man ancillary character films have been awful, so I don't know if that's a fair test one way or the other.)

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Venom owns

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Class3KillStorm posted:

This is where I'm at, but Craig also took the skepticism personally and doubled-down on getting in shape and proving everyone wrong. I don't know if Taylor-Johnson will have the same attitude about it.



I don't think you need to worry about Taylor-Johnson "getting in shape".

Cacator
Aug 6, 2005

You're quite good at turning me on.

He looks like he's got a big ol ding dong so I'm cautiously optimistic

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

It all comes down to what they actually want to do with the new films. Like they didn't cast Craig to be a blonde continuation of Brosnan. So what kind of Bond are they thinking about, and do they determine that before or after casting?

gohuskies
Oct 23, 2010

I spend a lot of time making posts to justify why I'm not a self centered shithead that just wants to act like COVID isn't a thing.
Is there a single photo of him clean-shaven and with short hair?

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

gohuskies posted:

Is there a single photo of him clean-shaven and with short hair?

Google tells me no, but hair clippers exist, so I don't see this as a problem.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

I knew Craig from Road to Perdition, so I was super wtf about the whole thing.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
they were never going to choose an ethnic i guess.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
Should have given at least a one off Idris Elba Bond.

Ammanas
Jul 17, 2005

Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"

gohuskies posted:

Is there a single photo of him clean-shaven and with short hair?

sure, he had a crew cut for godzilla.

i think he could work as bond, although i have no reason to think the movies would be good. the brocollis insistence at ignoring all the things that made Casino Royale a genuinely good movie is sad...

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Gatts posted:

Should have given at least a one off Idris Elba Bond.

I think someone thought for five minutes of the implications of a black lead played straight as a violent hedonistic sexual predator.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

They absolutely did not

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Martman
Nov 20, 2006

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I think someone thought for five minutes of the implications of a black lead played straight as a violent hedonistic sexual predator.
Yeah only white actors get to do that!!

Anyway I think it's interesting that two of ATJ's biggest roles, in Godzilla and Kickass, were as Bland American Dude. Honestly as far as I remember he was pretty badass in Outlaw King, it's just hard to separate him from that stuff

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