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Blaziken386
Jun 27, 2013

I'm what the kids call: a big nerd

Blueberry Pancakes posted:

Reverse that, then.


I remember this reference to the movie, though. This series seems to like turning Latias into a human girl.
so does deviantart :v:

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Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
I'm sure there's a Latios equivalent out there too.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Jirachi also had this good song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGIfFdXthUs

rannum
Nov 3, 2012


it is so bizarre how the second half of this is completely untranslated

Polderjoch
Jun 27, 2019

May the sacred flame guide me... Or something like that.

rannum posted:

Feels like a Manaphy movie would've been more apt

The Manaphy movie actually also has cameos, I think all of the Gen 3 movies had at least one character cameo in Sinnoh as a trainer.

AweStriker
Oct 6, 2014

rannum posted:

I spent an absurd amount of time on that inexplicable Villa. It really hit that itch of filling up a house that animal crossing normally gives me and I am such a sucker for flavor text. Don't think I ever got every piece of furniture in there, but I got pretty close. Hmmm maybe I'l pull my copy out...


The cameos are so inexplicable, that movie came out in 2003 and the games rarely do references like that. Feels like a Manaphy movie would've been more apt

jirachi movie was kind of cute, it's set over the course of a week and has Jirachi bond with Max (because of course it does) and it's kind of a little poo poo since its a baby. You got goofy things like flooding a trailer with candy and teleporting a "problem" (may) off somewhere else.
Then everything goes off the rails because Butler is actually a disgraced scientist literally laughed out of the room by Team Magma, he steals Jirachi and uses it to create a Groudon to get revenge and instead its this horror



that starts absorbing all the wildlife, upending the earth and killing the trees as it slowly moves along.

For some reason Ash instantly befriends a Flygon so he can have elaborate air sequences because I think the writers forgot he didn't have any Pokemon he could ride like Charizard :v:

I thought this was that movie. I don't really remember any of it except this sequence with mutant blob Groudon, though.

Honestly until the movie was brought up I kind of forgot I even saw it once, and I still don't remember when that might have been.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




I wish more Pokemon games gave you a house to trick out

Crosspeice
Aug 9, 2013

Part 29: Mainland Mechanics

Surfing



Alright, alright, we're not heading to the mainland yet, there's still a lovely water route to blow past first.



Seeing a Pokemon use Surf to carry you out on the sea... it strikes an emotional chord with me somewhere deep down.



Ow, kinda.



I wanted to be alone, but swatting away immature boys on the prowl... well, my Pokemon grew tough without me really even trying.



Like it never gets as bad as Hoenn, obviously, but man there's not much to these routes.




You ride atop the waves while riding a Pokemon! And you rode right over me!



Hrm, dunno what these ice seals are doing in this tropical area that is of the same northern latitude of a snow blanket, but uhhhh, gulf stream?




At least there's something to distract us. Just assume to get to an item we need to smash a rock. It seems weird to carry around a garbage move like Rock Smash around for the ENTIRE GAME, but such is Sinnoh.



And hey guess what, there's even more Pokemon to catch here. Weirdly enough, the evolved forms are pretty drat rare, while Oddish and Bellsprout are pretty common during night/day respectively. Yet I still found the 5% first.




Like seriously, what the heck?



Because you could also find these mons on Route 229 in DP, there was very little reason for coming here, so it's good they shook up the encounters there. And by that I mean removed the repetitions, there were a LOT of Pokemon on that route.



Alright back to this...



I don't remember all the various seals on random trainers, it's been a nice surprise.



I've grown with my Pokemon, too. My swimsuit's getting a little tight...

Being a good swimmer doesn't make me any better as a Trainer...



Alright, we're basically done here, let's just see what's biting. Oh? This one seems a little heavy, but I've traversed an entire country, my arms are JACKED!



Just reeling up a 900 pound whale, what of it?



Yeah, this is less impressive.



There we go, that's a full loop. Obviously Stark Mountain is important, but there's a fair few things on the mainland that we need to go over eventually. If you thought we were nearly done with the postgame, oh no, oh nonononononono.



Gero gero, we're just getting some supplies, gotta have some balls after all, but we'll be back here later.

Pal Park



Pokemon from around the country can be brought here. In other words, Pokemon from places like Kanto and Hoenn. This place also happens to be where you compete to see how quickly you can catch those Pokemon! It's good to see you've come to join us for a visit. Let me make a gift of this Trainer Counter app for your Poketch.



I plan to be in Eterna City for some time. Being here, I should make the best of my time studying the Pokemon of the Sinnoh region.



Trainers and Pokemon are so full of intensity here! I've never seen some Pokemon. Would you show me if you had one? Let me see... a Pokemon that does nothing but eat and sleep. What was that Pokemon's name now...? Oh, it's on the tip of my tongue!



It's a head-on clash of will and wits between Trainer and Pokemon. I especially look forward to seeing Pokemon from Kanto and Hoenn. But it tugs at my heartstrings to know they're so far away from home.

Poke Radar!



As I figure out how the get the Pal Park working, because I can show that off, let's go over the Poke Radar. The app we just got just shows the longest streaks we've done for a specific Pokemon. I'll go into more detail at the end of the update how the Poke Radar works, but you want to be in a large patch of grass so you have the best conditions to chain a specific mon.




Defeating or catching the Pokemon will continue the chain, with catching resulting in a slightly better chance of encountering the same Pokemon again. There are lots of factors to keeping a chain going, such as grass animation, how far the shaking patch is, and whether the game can even spawn a shaking spot.



Without knowing all these factors, which are not told to you at all, keeping a chain is very, very difficult.



It's very important, since there's a LOT of Pokemon that can only be found via this method. And as the chain gets higher and higher, the chance of you finding a shiny Pokemon can get as high as around 1/200 for a chain of 40 or higher. If you think that sounds like fun, well I think I'm crazy enough to let you guys vote on which Pokemon you want me to hunt.

Regardless, on basically every route there's now a new Pokemon to find, such as: both Nidoran, Nidorina, Nidorino, Venonat, Venomoth, Mankey, Primeape, Slowpoke, Grimer, Tauros, Sentret, Togepi, Mareep, Flaaffy, Hoppip, Sunkern, Wobbuffet, Stantler, Smeargle, Tyrogue, Miltank, Poochyena, Swellow, Kirlia, Nincada, Loudred, Aron, Torkoal, Baltoy and Bagon. And there's still multiple more ways to obtain other Pokemon. Also notable is Ditto, Trapinch, Larvitar, and Skiploom are DP only, well some are version exclusives, like Larvitar to Diamond, and Slowpoke to Pearl.



But enough about two methods of catching Pokemon, how about a third? Ya like dongles?



On a DS or DS Lite, not the DSi and on, you can put in the 5 Gen 3 cartridges in the bottom and any Gen 4 game will read them! There's more to them in DPP, since there's only really the Pal Park in HGSS, but you can send over 6 Pokemon, items and all, but no HMs, to come have a new home in Sinnoh or Johto. Seems going to Orre wasn't enough for these lot!



The Pal Park is split into six different zones and all 386 Gen 3 Pokemon have a specific area they appear in, so that's something you have to puzzle out.



But that's all there is to it, Park Balls are reskinned Master Balls, so they skip the catching formula, nor do they replace the Pokeball your old Pokemon were in. Indeed, in DPP, you can't even hack them in as they're not an inventory slot, HGSS introduced them as such, though they can't be used in regular battles.



Ranmaru was also in the Field area, while Calbrena was in the Forest.



Then Cold Gregg and Wargreymon were in the Mountain area, and for Water types you might have to guess if they'll be Pond or Sea.



Pond, btw, you get a berry depending on how good your score was, which is calculated from three things: the average time between each capture, the overall time it took, and the type of Pokemon caught, as in rarity. You get standard berries up to 3000 points, the healing with flavour berries up to 3300, the Poffin berries up to 3500, and then the rarer Poffin berries past that. All the berries can be obtained otherwise, but it's a nice reward I suppose.



I wish you would take this "Sky" Backdrop. Please try using it when dressing up your Pokemon with Accessories.



It's so dreamy... Sinnoh sets my heart aflutter.

While not specifically related to catching shows, this lady will give you a backdrop for the Hoenn games, or an Accessory, Crown or Tiara, for the Kanto games if you have them in. This is determined when you boot the Gen 4 game up, so you'll have to save and restart with another game inserted if you want the other stuff.



Looking good champ. The Pokemon that come over are basically identical, though happiness is reset, standard. For Pokemon that gained an ability between gens, this is determined by the personality value, which only gets rechecked and reflected accordingly when you evolve something. So Cold Gregg could have Ice Body, but since she'll never evolve, we'll never know. This still wouldn't occur if you went all the way to Gen 6 or 7, since the game locks specific oddities from happening, but we would then be able to use an Ability Capsule. Uh, anyway, Pokemon will also be set location wise to whichever games they came from, so you can get a Kanto Swampert if you traded it to FRLG beforehand.

Now the Pal Park is a very important facility to help you patch holes in your dex if you somehow don't have all 5 Gen 4 games. Though doing it in this game is not recommended, DPP has a 24 hour limit for each Pal Park use with the same Gen 3 game, while HGSS has no such restriction. Gen 4 is actually incredibly good about obtaining a LOT of Pokemon, but there are some you still need to transfer over. Obviously there's all the mythical Pokemon, while Manaphy and Phione are the only legitimate Gen 4 mythicals obtainable. Lugia and Ho-oh, as well as a smattering of other legendaries needed to be transferred over to DPP, though HGSS lets you obtain a good chunk of missing mons, including the rest of the starters. Prior to Platinum, Tangela and Tropius had to be transferred over, since there were no way to obtain them otherwise. The only regular Pokemon that need to be sent over are the legendary golems, since they're event only in Gen 4. Kinda sucks, huh.

Oh yeah, there's also certain held items that have to be sent over, like the Shoal Salt and Shoal Shell and the Enigma Berry, which replaces any e-Reader berries you try to send through Pal Park. Some items can otherwise only be obtained through the Pokewalker, like some of the very rarest berries or the Fluffy Tail, and the Soul Dew, which is from Battle Revolution without either the RSE or HGSS event. All fascinating stuff!

Eterna City Day



Capturing every kind of Pokemon is no easy feat, I'll grant you that. But I'm sure you ca accomplish it! Ah, yes! An acquaintance from Kanto has sent me something quite interesting. I think you'd make better use of it than I ever could.

"that Up-Grade."

Incidentally, and this is an entirely different topic... I've heard that there have been sightings of very rare Pokemon. The legendary bird Pokemon: ARTICUNO, ZAPDOS, and MOLTRES! They've been spotted at various locations here in Sinnoh, no less! Why, you may be lucky enough to see them yourself in your journeys! ARTICUNO, ZAPDOS, and MOLTRES are extremely rare even in Kanto. There have been precious few sightings as it is. So why would they be spotted here in Sinnoh of all places? There are still many, many mysteries surrounding Pokemon, it seems!



Three more roamers that I'll ignore for as long as possible aside, with our Emerald cart inserted, would you like to learn about another way to catch Pokemon?



The dongle method isn't as extensive as the others, but it's important all the same, as you can already see. Inserting any of the 5 Gen 3 games causes various Pokemon to appear depending on the game, usually those game's version exclusives. Any game inserted will cause Gengar to spawn in this specific room, the eyes have it after all, with Haunter also being here in DP. Inserting FRLG and Emerald also made Staravia and Bibarel appear at Lake Verity in DP for... some reason, probably because the grass over the water has the same encounters. There are others, but Gengar is the only notable one.



Thank god it has that, I was running out of Nest Balls. Ruby and Sapphire introduces Seedot, Nuzleaf, Mawile, Zangoose and Solrock, or Lotad, Lombre, Sableye, Seviper and Lunatone, respectively, in the same places as each other. The same occurs with FRLG, with Caterpie, Metapod, Ekans, Arbok and Growlithe or Weedle, Kakuna, Sandshrew, Sandslash and Vulpix, with Elekid or Magby for DP. Finally, Emerald has Teddiursa, Ursaring, Pineco and Shuckle, with Gligar in DP. Sure, you could catch them in the respective games and trade them over, but where's the fun in that?

Veilstone City Day



I've heard about you and what took place at the Spear Pillar. Our leader, Master Cyrus, hated the very idea of spirit. He hated spirit for being incomplete. And yet, using fiery exhortations, he rallied the sprit of others. What he hated most, he used to control others. Isn't that ironic? That fascinated me. I wanted to see what he would do. And I did. At his side. But it's over. A world without spirit... who would want such a thing?! So, what now...? What to do with Team Galactic? But I've learned that extremism is never the solution... perhaps we should really be searching for new sources of energy. Instead of lying about it through our commercials.



Ah, Hikari, it's you. Does life continue to thrill you? It does for me. For example, I recently discovered some Pokemon only evolve in certain locations. When I learned that, I felt thrilled!



As fun as it is to chat with various NPCs, the real reason we're here is Cynthia has better things to do than stand in front of a cave all day.

Turnback Cave

"...before 30 is surpassed..."

Well doesn't this set the mood. This is another area with ignorable Defog, since all the Pokemon we can encounter here are ones we've seen.



The maze is pretty simple, the door you entered from will send you back to the entrance, and the other 3 doors lead to either the pillar room, the destination, or the other 2 room designs for this section of the maze. When you reach a pillar room, the top number is the pillar you've reached, with the bottom the number of rooms traversed. If you hit 30 rooms without finding the third pillar room, you're kicked back to the entrance.



Oh neat, you can chain all 3 pillar rooms, but it's a 1/3 chance each time. Each pillar you reach will also change the design of the intermediary rooms, as well as what Pokemon you can encounter. Ever wanted a level 16 Dusclops? As we get to the end of the maze, Pokemon reach the 40s and some like Chimecho and Bronzong become quite common. It was similar in DP, though the levels were much higher, not sure why they were reduced so much for this game.



And, uh, there we go. That was weirdly easy. If you get here in 3 rooms, a Reaper Cloth will be here, 4-15 rooms is a Rare Bone, what you actually want, and 16-30 is a Stardust. The item won't be here if Giratina is, so your first time in DP, or if you defeated it in the Distortion World.



That were life sparkles... that where life has faded... a place where two worlds overlap...

Distortion World



Welcome back. There should be a spiky angry man around here, so hopefully this is a short visit.



This is a new section of the Distortion World, not that it really means much.



But these platforms lead us back to where we clashed with Cyrus and fought Giratina. Now we can use Origin form out of the Distortion World and it boosts Dragon and Ghost moves by 20%. Handy! We'll never return here until the LP of the remake, I'm excited for it!

Canalave City Day



Books are wonderful things. The thoughts of people written in books stretch beyond time and space. I was just reading an analytical tome on humankind. It examines the human species from cultural and social perspectives. This is a thought-provoking quote: "It all began without humans. The end will also be without humans." The world we share with Pokemon... does it exist for us? I imagine we'll see each other again at the Pokemon League. Take care.

Occasionally Lucian will be here reading about five different books. Very interesting stuff and if you don't think so read some drat books you uncultured swine!

I was just reading a book of philosophy from an ancient, far-off land. Their 'universe' was a word that described both space and time. That people even back then understood the basic tenets of the universe... it fills me with a serene sense of inspiration.

I was just reading a collection of observations on Pokemon in the wild. One article addresses the question why Pokemon would go into a Pokeball. According to this article, this behavior is based on instinct. A weakened Pokemon will curl up tight in an effort to heal itself. The Pokeball was invented to take advantage of that protective instinct.

I was just reading a collection of essays on the science-fiction genre. There was one quote attributed to a novelist I found remarkable. 'Though love may lose, kindness wins.' I find that philosophical and, at the same time, compassionate.

I was just reading a collection of letters written by an artist long ago. More precisely, they were written to the artist's younger brother. 'The stars above tantalize from across infinite space. Feeling their gaze from so far away, I am charmed again by life.' The artist must have come to a conclusion seeing the night sky... it's an affirmation of life. It's very moving.



DAR... DARK... is watching... me...



It's happened in the past in Canalave. There were people who never woke up from their nightmares... ...that is, until they were awoken using something called the Lunar Wing. My husband went to find a Lunar Wing on Fullmoon Island, but he failed... does it take a Trainer to do that? We feel so frustrated by this...



We're both counting on you! Only you can awaken my son from his awful nightmare... please, I need the Lunar Wing from Fullmoon Island to awaken him! I went, but I failed to find it... anchors aweigh!

Fullmoon Island



There's still plenty of the map to discover, it's like Gen 3's event islands was just the beginning!



That seems pretty Lunar.




And yes, we now have FIVE ROAMERS! Like, it's a good thing we have the Marking Map, but that doesn't mean they have to keep outdoing their awfulness from last time. Ugh.



I've heard tales of it flying from place to place throughout Sinnoh. Oh! That sparkle... so, that's the Lunar Wing... thank you... that will wake my son from the nightmare...

Canalave City Day




Oh, my son... I... I don't know what to say... thank you! We'll never forget you! Seeing you back to normal makes me feel great! I've regained my spirit as a Sailor! Come sail with me later!



It was a scary place... it was a dark place... and there was a dark Pokemon... but, Daddy, Mommy... I could always hear your voices...



Well that was a nice little event, though it sounds like any continuation is something we can't do. Oh well! We can also head back to Fullmoon Island at any time, though the only reason to do so is access the top left of the Underground map. Weird, right?



You know, my son trains as hard as you do. But I still treat him as if he were a child. It's ridiculous, really. He is a proper Gym Leader and all. It's always tricky between a father and son, it seems. Humph, I've wasted your time. Take this an my apology!



They need to hold that item while being traded to evolve. Try using it if you'd like. Farewell!



Before we move on to a crazy new locale, there's a few Pokemon here and there that we can get with the Super Rod. Lumineon is in most sea areas.



I heard from Cynthia. You're working on a Pokedex, aren't you? There should be many rare Pokemon in the temple. Enjoy your exploring!

The temple is said to have been built in ancient times. It pays homage to the Pokemon of rock, ice, and steel that shape the land. So it is told.

Snowpoint Temple



There's not much to this place, but hey, there's new Pokemon to catch I suppose!



And the first non-Gym related ice puzzles! Well, "puzzles".



I will happily ignore a rock if I can go around it. I think it's quicker too.



But of course you're never truly free.



In the lower levels, there's Jynx, who is A Problem.



And what's this on the bottom floor?



Easy enough to get to, just gotta loop around to just behind it.




Interesting, what does it mean? Well it sounds like something we'll never be able to do, so oh well!

Great Marsh



And it just doesn't stop, this is our last visit to the Great Marsh, since the daily Pokemon increase by a fair amount in the postgame, so let's see what crazy new Pokemon we can find!










There we go, quite the collection, wouldn't you say? Yanma was in place of Kecleon in DP, but surely we're done with all this drat catching, right? How many more different ways of catching new Pokemon can there be???



Well as we head to that next mechanic let's fish some more. Octillery are in most ponds, with Whiscash filling out the other ones.



What the hell I have a repe- oh. Okay.



I'm busy! When I have a spare 10 hours I'll come hunt you down, bah.

Backalot Mansion



Muhohoho... I bet you are! I knew you would be! But I don't mind! I enjoy sharing my stories with you! So! When I go out into my prized trophy garden, Pokemon come running to me. They sidle up, as happy as they can be to see me! Well? Doesn't that make you envious? You are envious, yes? Muhohoho... I bet you are! I knew you would be! But I don't mind! I enjoy sharing my stories with you! So! This is what happened this morning when I went into my trophy garden. I noticed a cute-eyed CLEFFA, which joyously ran over to me. The CLEFFA ran up and gave me a smooch on my cheek...



It doesn't exist in the garden...

Wha... erm... wh-what are you saying? I'm no blowhard! Listen... mutter, mutter... whisper, whisper...

Yes, Master! Right away, sir!

...it's true, I tell you! No lies ever leave these lips! There really are cute CLEFFA in my trophy garden! Honest truth!



Alright, the last way to get Pokemon, once a day there will be a new Pokemon in the Trophy Garden and there's a lot of important ones!



For whatever reason they moved Ditto from the Poke Radar on Route 218 to here, which is definitely a pain, but still very necessary, we'll be making use of its services for sure.



Also the first time we can catch wild Eevee! I'll be cloning a few of these later...








And that's finally all of them, very important babies that can be caught for the first time. Porygon was also here in DP, but you only get the one in this game, have to wait for another gen to catch those. That's all the different ways you can catch all manner of Pokemon outside and inside the regional dex, it's pretty crazy!

And if you're curious, the other Pokemon found here are Clefairy, Jigglypuff, Chansey, Marill, Bonsly and Mime Jr., which can be pretty nice to catch from a daily chance. Only Porygon and Ditto are version exclusives, everything else is in all 3 games.



Since we've done a lot of catching, next time, it's a lot of battling. Not against the Elite Four, oh no, there's still lots of things to do in the postgame, as well as a fair few new areas!









Crosspeice fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Sep 28, 2019

Crosspeice
Aug 9, 2013

Side Notes 06: Hunting with the Poke Radar!

Poke Radar





So you want an easy shiny, do ya? Well think again, the Poke Radar is a powerful tool in the right hands, but it requires a bit of work to get going, but is definitely worth it. Firstly, it needs 50 steps to charge, but that's easy, secondly you need to be a in a large patch of grass, there's a fair few places you can do this easily enough. Thirdly, you need a lot of Pokeballs and repels, well, Quick Balls and Super Repels I suppose. Finally, you need to know what you're hunting for, since you can do this with any Pokemon on a specific route, even those from the dongle method or swarms or whatever, and especially with the mon exclusive to the Poke Radar. So with that all set, let's turn it on.

Around you, a maximum of 4 patches of grass with shake. These are chosen randomly within 4 rings around where you activate it, the first ring being the eight squares around you, the second ring being the sixteen squares surrounding the first ring, etc. If one of the rings didn't have a shaking patch, then it randomly chose a patch without grass. This can happen for all 4, where your chain will automatically break, so be aware of that! Take a very hard look at the grass that's shaking, it'll either shake gently, or vigorously, and that's important for two reasons. Firstly, the radar exclusive Pokemon will never appear in gently shaking grass, and secondly, the Pokemon you chain will always use that shaking animation, so if you choose a gentle shake and it's the mon you're looking for, it'll always be in gently shaking grass, but don't take it to mean that only local Pokemon will appear in gently shaking grass, it's the swarm or dongle or radar Pokemon that will never appear there.

Defeating or catching the Pokemon will continue the chain, knocking out the Pokemon in any way is fine, and four more patches will shake. The probability of it being the same Pokemon you just encountered depends on the rings, the first ring is a 28% chance, second is 48%, then 68%, then 88%, so try and go to the furthest ring when possible, but note that four new patches will be created from that spot, so don't go too close to the end of the grass patch, or you'll decrease the chance of a fourth ring spawn. Catching the Pokemon boosts these chances by 10%, making the fourth ring a near guarentee, but always remember which shake animation is being used. If you believe none of the patches will continue the chain, either wrong animation, or they didn't spawn, or it spawned in an awkward location, you can always use the radar again to spawn four new patches, this will not break the chain, but there are a number of things that will break the chain:

If a different species is encountered in any way, if the chained Pokemon is not defeated or captured, if you naturally encounter another Pokemon, even if it's the same one as the chain, if you use the Bicycle, if you move too far from the shaking patches, if an Egg hatches, or if you enter the wrong patch, even if you happen to encounter the same Pokemon you were chaining, this will all end it, so it's a lot to keep in mind, but the rewards are definitely worth it.

As your chain increases, so too does your shiny chance. Now you have a chance of naturally encountering a shiny while doing this, the chance of EVERY shaking patch is the same, regardless of what Pokemon it is. When the radar forces a shiny Pokemon, the patch will glow twice and the PID will roll until the Pokemon can be shiny. If it's in the fourth ring, it's probably your chained Pokemon, but this can happen at any time while you're doing this, at max chain chances, with all four patches, you have a 1/50 chance of seeing a shiny. The chance increases slowly to begin with, with the chance beginning at 8/65536, the true rate, and increases when certain chain amounts are reached, going up to 9/65536 to 10/65536, incrementing at an almost exponential rate until 40+, 328/65536, or around 1/200. When you reach this part, there's no need to continue to find Pokemon with the possibility of breaking your chain, you can just run around to charge your radar and keep resetting the grass until one of them is shiny. And if it is the chained Pokemon, you can just keep doing it! It's actually insane how good the odds get, so I wonder how lucky I'll be...

Crosspeice
Aug 9, 2013

Alright, it's time to decide what I'll be hunting! Just to slim it down, I'll only be going for Pokemon that are obtainable from the radar, since I cba getting all the various dongles nor wait for the specific swarm. Simply pick one from:

Nidoran F, Nidorina, Nidoran M, Nidorino, Venonat, Venomoth, Mankey, Primeape, Slowpoke, Grimer, Tauros, Sentret, Mareep, Flaaffy, Hoppip, Sunkern, Wobbuffet, Stantler, Smeargle, Tyrogue, Miltank, Poochyena, Swellow, Kirlia, Nincada, Loudred, Aron, Torkoal, Baltoy, Bagon.

I will do my best to get a shiny, while also getting the highest chain after a couple hours of attempts, no massive promises. No resetting at a 40 chain, that would just be an inevitable shiny, boring!

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


sunkern, the most powerful pokemon of all

Leraika
Jun 14, 2015

Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.
I just think Mareep is neat.

rannum
Nov 3, 2012

I think it was mentioned up thread but now that dongle method is back in vogue lets take another side trip to "gamefreak why are you this way"
In Diamond & Pearl, the Magmar & Electabuzz lines were not conventionally in the game at all. Your only options were through Pal Park and the dongle method. But the real dumb poo poo was from Electivire & Magmortar. Electirizer & Magmarizer weren't items you could just find or buy, the only way to get one was by wild Elekid/Magby that showed up with the dongle. And on top of that the rates varied based on version: 50% in one, 5% in the other.

They way they handeled all the post game evolution lines is really one for the record books

quote:

I was just reading a collection of observations on Pokemon in the wild. One article addresses the question why Pokemon would go into a Pokeball. According to this article, this behavior is based on instinct. A weakened Pokemon will curl up tight in an effort to heal itself. The Pokeball was invented to take advantage of that protective instinct.

That's some real weird worldbuilding there, pokemon.....

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Mareep is my favorite Pokemon.

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

by VideoGames
Stantler or die

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

rannum posted:

I think it was mentioned up thread but now that dongle method is back in vogue lets take another side trip to "gamefreak why are you this way"
In Diamond & Pearl, the Magmar & Electabuzz lines were not conventionally in the game at all. Your only options were through Pal Park and the dongle method. But the real dumb poo poo was from Electivire & Magmortar. Electirizer & Magmarizer weren't items you could just find or buy, the only way to get one was by wild Elekid/Magby that showed up with the dongle. And on top of that the rates varied based on version: 50% in one, 5% in the other.

This was incredibly bad, yeah. I got both from Pokemon Battle Revolution because it was the easiest way, but also, no one should have to buy PBR, it's not a great game.

Then again, neither were Diamond and Pearl.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH

Bogart posted:

Stantler or die

Stantler

Blaziken386
Jun 27, 2013

I'm what the kids call: a big nerd

quote:

Dang Galarian Tourists, those mechanics aren't street legal in sinnoh yet!

Also, you should look for a friendly Torkoal.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Mareep
I've always been partial to Amphy's line

I love the galactic dude going, "gently caress it. We'd be better off going legit."

Explopyro
Mar 18, 2018

I'm nothing if not predictable. Smeargle.

BisbyWorl
Jan 12, 2019

Knowledge is pain plus observation.


Mareep
I really liked the Pal Park back in the day. I remember bringing my Blaziken from Emerald into Diamond, then giving him a moveset that let him sweep the entire Elite 4 and just farmed them endlessly to evolve everything in the regional dex.

Solumin
Jan 11, 2013
R-R-R-REG-REGI RRREGI

The Golux
Feb 18, 2017

Internet Cephalopod



In playing Pearl, I learned: The dongle method (and I think the national dex) is actually keyed to completing the regional dex and independent of whether or not you've beaten the E4. Because my stupid playstyle sometimes fills the regional dex before beating the game...

dungeon cousin
Nov 26, 2012

woop woop
loop loop
Will evolving a shiny Nincada also give you a shiny Shedinja? If so then let's do that.

Black Robe
Sep 12, 2017

Generic Magic User


Poochyena has a very pretty shiny I've never managed to find for myself, and what are LPs for if not living vicariously through other people?

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

dungeon cousin posted:

Will evolving a shiny Nincada also give you a shiny Shedinja? If so then let's do that.

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

dungeon cousin posted:

Will evolving a shiny Nincada also give you a shiny Shedinja? If so then let's do that.

Why would you say no to a freebie? Nincada.

FrozenPhoenix71
Jan 9, 2019
Gotta be Sentret because it evolves into my precious Furret.

Crosspeice
Aug 9, 2013

Votes so far!

Mareep: 4
Nincada: 3
Stantler: 2
Sentret: 1
Poochyena: 1
Smeargle :1
Torkoal: 1
Sunkern: 1

And yes, I will get the full line, depending on how many shinies we get.

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
I'll also toss in a vote for Nincada to see if we can get a shiny Shedinja.

Toyotasomi no Miko
Oct 23, 2016
Nincada. Throwing out the name Termina for Shedinja specifically, if allowed, just for fun.

Solumin
Jan 11, 2013
I like the idea of getting two shinies, so let's go for nincada!

Polderjoch
Jun 27, 2019

May the sacred flame guide me... Or something like that.
Who can say no to a two for one? Nincada

Commander Keene
Dec 21, 2016

Faster than the others



dungeon cousin posted:

Will evolving a shiny Nincada also give you a shiny Shedinja? If so then let's do that.
:emptyquote:

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Sheep friend. :negative:

The Golux
Feb 18, 2017

Internet Cephalopod



I can get behind a Sheep Friend. Though I actually prefer their non-shiny colors.

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

by VideoGames
You’re all gonna be sorry when Stantler gets a cool rear end evo in Shield. :colbert:

Crosspeice
Aug 9, 2013

Voting is closed! Nincada is our choice, better luck next time sheeple.

Crosspeice
Aug 9, 2013

Part 30: Land's End

Victory Road



Hey remember this cave? Well it's a new area explore, I wonder what's in store? I hope it's not Defog!



Oh... Hikari, will you help me, please? I want to get through this tunnel. Will you let me go with you?



Neat, haven't had one of these in a while, but this is the final use of Defog in the series. Now gently caress off and never come back!

...you're very chatty...

...the Pokemon among the flowers...



That's right! It's time to let their Pokemon go wild!

I will win. I am sure of it. Therefore, you will lose!



No more Lucario and Kadabra, this is a support Arcanine, which is just fine, it can be very helpful.



Ooh, don't like it when I do it to you!



*in very racist Borat voice* High five!



Whether you're talking to people or Pokemon, it's important to always look them square in the eyes.

It's not that you've won. It's just that I lost! ...it's all the same. Go, me.



HMs, HMs.



We weren't able to find out with other partners, but you can't traverse with HMs, so no surfing, we're on a specific path!



stop



What can psychic power be used for? Well, one mustn't use it for committing crimes. But, I don't use it for doing good, either. Using psychic power leaves me too worn out!

I can use psychic powers, but battling isn't so simple... it takes much more to win!



While there's a few things only accessible via water, we need to come back to get the other item anyway.



I've experienced it all!



I mean, I get why you did that, but why did you do that?



We're gonna go ahead and leave... you know, go train elsewhere.

You may be a child, but you've taught me a whole lot. I thank you humbly.



Nice of them to give us a HM break inbetween trainers.




I want to become stronger, but only with my favorite Pokemon.

Getting the best out of any Pokemon... that's what makes a good Trainer.



The one who wants to win will emerge the victor!

I see it! I see a victory for me!



Psychic power... I know it isn't easy to believe in something that you can't see. But love, friendship... you can't see those, either.

Your efforts have altered the very path of the future!



We're skirting around the outside to avoid this maze. Well, it's divided into various chunks, so we'll hit dead ends very quickly.



Alright, last fight to show your stuff!



That works too.



I'll forget that we lost! ...wait, if I did that, we'd never learn from our mistakes...



Always risky trying to get new mons with a partner, but thankfully we just have the one.



I wanted to see the Pokemon that visits it, that's all... ...I appreciate your escorting me... ...just a little...



Alright, let's clean up.



There's a whole second half to this room, but not too much to it.



Let me see what you got there, kid. I could give you some advice.



Ahhh, nice team synergy!



I'm sorry, my Pokemon team... I promise, I'll get better at this so you can get a taste of victory!

Well, I don't have any advice for someone as tough as you!



Sure, that's a reward, I guess.



Brrrrrr, finally finding this is the wild! Since the Gen 2 one was more of an event.




Well that was fun, what's next?

Route 224 Day



Ah, this is the kind of adventure this game excels at, hell yeah there's a whole optional route at the other end of a cave!




You've won countless times... that has made you very powerful.



Another for the pile...



Idiotic completionist? Yeah, let's go with that.



I've seen countless Trainers and even more Pokemon. You're a strong Trainer. Moreover, your heart is strong.



You don't blend in as well.



A place where nothing else exists... a place such as that is better suited to awaken the power within.



Wonder what they're all here for? Another drat Psychic legendary???



So that's what it means... I feel... I feel some sort of a mystic presence emanating from here...



Another one!



Still being sneaky it seems.



Neat.



Ah, excuse me, I'm combing the beach.



Gazing out over the sea doesn't do a thing for toughening up my Pokemon!




Sorry bud, it's all cleaned up.



Yes it's weaker, but more importantly, it has a better paralysis chance. Such is what I have to work with when my Electric type doesn't learn Thunder Wave and also it's a facility only TM because gently caress you.



Just what we need, another big statue I can't interact with.



Another movie reference that the localization missed, DOUG. This is Hitomi, or, uh, Rebecca, from the 7th movie, Destiny Deoxys, where she was a real nerd at the Battle Tower with her Metagross.



I had a lot of fun battling with you, though. I wonder if I can analyze the battle data properly? I could use a rematch to get some additional data.

(You can't rematch her)



Uhuh, sure man.



It's been several years since I left the Dragon's Den. I've got to say, your Pokemon are in the top class for toughness.




Well wasn't that excursion fun? I'm sure there's more to this place, but the continuation is something we can't do. Oh well!










I have a Poketch app that has a SNORLAX motif. You can have it for showing me a real SNORLAX!



Doesn't that KITCHEN TIMER make you want to cook something?



Wow, I'm sure loads of people used this!!! The only good thing is Snorlax banging its tummy when the time is up.



Well it's a good thing you can catch one pretty easily in RSE, otherwise to get this app, you need the Poke Radar in Diamond, since it's a version exclusive doncha know, or the Great Marsh daily Pokemon. Yikes.



The Color Changer app can change the Poketch display color. Changing colors can change the mood, too.






Got real Yellow LP in here. Here's the best app! It's the last app! Why is this so late? I needed this like 20 updates ago, green got super loving old. Still, once you get it, you'll never forget it.



Obviously going to pick the best colour ever, you won't know it's there, but like with seals, it makes recording just that much sweeter.



Oh yeah here's EVENT POKETCH APPS THAT WERE NEVER RELEASED! It's a stopwatch. It's like the Kitchen Timer. But the other thing.



And you reset it by holding it down for about 5 seconds so Voltorb explodes.



If you love being awoken to the sound of Loudred, then please get some help. By leaving the DS open and brightly lighting your room all night, you can set the alarm to a specific time. Wow! No wonder they never put the effort into releasing them, not that the other apps are any better. But that's all 25 and I've used like 4 throughout the LP. YAY!

Route 227 Night



Enough with the interludes, it's time for the final big area in the game.



Like the ash on Route 113, it's also cosmetic in battle. No soot to collect though, thank god.




There's also XTREME biking!



Look around you at this wildly contorted terrain. It's no wonder that Pokemon would grow tough in a place like this.



You've grown so tough that you're training out here now... everyone keeps getting tougher and tougher... and, in doing that, they develop closer bonds with their Pokemon...

That's my master! Those are words of wisdom!

What? Are you still having trouble understanding? I don't for a second ever recall accepting you as an apprentice! I mean, if it's wrestling moves, I can show you all you like, but...

Aww, master, don't be that way! You've got to get me into that club in the Survival Area!

...how'd I get involved in this...? So, anyway, Hikari. You're going to Stark Mountain? Even the wild Pokemon there are very, very tough... if your Pokemon aren't well trained, they'll have a miserable time... then again, that kind of challenge is an exciting prospect... but no matter what, you'd better be fully prepared! I've got to get ready for another tournament. Farewell!



That's why I'm off to the Battle Frontier so I can make some challenges! Master! Wait for me!



Yes, yes, that's right. Get some well-earned rest. Oh, you're still looking tired. You're still needing rest, are you?



Is that right? You're sure now? I'm only concerned for your sake. No need to worry about putting me out!



Doing that conversation loop always makes me feel tired for saying no. Why do they do that?



So, uh, since you're training anyway, can you do me a favor? I'd like you to patrol Stark Mountain for me. I'll keep asking the same thing over and over until you say "Yes!"



Deep inside it is this special rock called the Magma Stone. I can't explain it well, but it's really important. It keeps a Pokemon asleep. But lately, I've been hearing rumors about vandals in Stark Mountain. They say goons in space suits are causing trouble there. Huh? What, me? I was on my way to the Pokemon Center because my Pokemon's low on HP. So, if you could get up to Stark Mountain, that'd be great. Thanks! OK! You're in charge! Patrol Stark Mountain for me! Don't worry about me. Not even a little bit, OK?




Well we've dicked around before coming here, so plenty to distract us on the way!




There is always something to like about any Pokemon. It's so hard to decide which ones I should raise.



There's some new, and strong, Pokemon in the grass, but there's plenty of opportunities in a moment.




All that time under the waterfall... seems I've caught a cold.



Your left ear burning by any chance?



I failed my Pokemon! I wasn't prepared enough to lead it! I don't ever want my precious Pokemon to be humiliated again!



Hmm, we'll come back to this mon.



Aside from boom boom over there, the only other new Pokemon are Numel and Skarmory, both rare, both not worth my time.



Now we need to get deep inside. Let's do this!

Yeah, but... can that old guy really take over? Can he replace Master Cyrus?

Yeah, I hear you... that elder Charon is a Commander, but he can't replace Master Cyrus. ...maybe this is a good time for me to be done with this Team Galactic thing...



Are you ready for explosive postgame plot???



Where were you after you disappeared at the Spear Pillar? Huh? The Distortion World?! Where GIRATINA was? You're not making any sense! Don't play that card with me! Fine! You don't want to talk? I'll bash you and make you talk!

Galactic Commander Battle



Mars is somehow one of the strongest trainers we've fought. Not much to it, despite Purugly being a fast lucky gently caress.



At least your boss got a drat Crobat!



My Pokemon let me down again! How am I supposed to get information about our missing Master Cyrus?



You make me embarrassed to be a Commander like you. Fine. I'll go up next. I want to know what became of Master Cyrus, too.



Hmm, that could be a problem.



Good thing most of our team is mixed, babyyyyyyyyy!



OK! That's it for me! I'm going to look for Master Cyrus. The Distortion World, was it called? I should go there, right? I'm quits with Team Galactic. Jupiter, you can deal with it!

Following Mars's lead at anything irks me, but... I'm quitting to do my own thing, too. Team Galactic's just no fun without Master Cyrus around. So old-timer, go ahead. Do what you want with Team Galactic.

There you have it. We're going back to being ordinary girls. You can mop up whichever way you want.

...says you. An "ordinary girl" you're not. What should I do now? Is leaving on a journey the right idea?



What do they see in Cyrus? Immature, overthinking buffoon. He goes through the trouble of assembling Team Galactic for what? Ultimately, he destroys his own creation for his ludicrous vision. It's no thanks to him that I have to struggle with the pieces. ...but that's fine. The young can live with their dreams. I prefer to remain firmly in reality. And for that, money is paramount. You there, child. I'm not dealing with you. After all, the other Galactic member who did all suffered consequences. We'll be off to collect the Magma Stone. It's all for the money!



Alright, we'll stop you. Just, uh, just as soon as I pick up these items.



...and just as soon as I deal with all these HM puzzles. But after that, oh you're gonna get it!

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Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

I stabbed you dude!
There's always that one trainer who says that thing about making eye contact. I bet 100 poke dollars that there's someone out there who unleashed a Flamethrower on a poor unsuspecting kid because they thought the kid was a trainer.

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