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ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

We all love movies. At least I assume most of us do. We also all know that movies are, to put it lightly, liberal with the ramifications of their actions. Of course that's the point. Movies are movies and don't have the time to dedicate to every single potential loophole or unintended consequence of whatever magical science bullshit they like to discuss. However discussing those things can also dominate a thread so why not have a thread specifically to argue your favorite movie quandary of choice!

Featuring such favorites as:

Did Marty McFly murder his entire family and replace them with 'superior' duplicates?
Did Timecop kill himself and replace himself in his wife's life?
Are the Ghostbusters keeping the spirits of the deceased in their basement without chance of parole and just how horrible a crime is that?
Is the Matrix meaningfully different from real life or is Neo history's greatest criminal?
Is the Force an omnipotent deity who cruelly manipulates the actions of people for unclear reasons and thus nobody in the Star Wars universe has free will?
Holy poo poo everything in Harry Potter films, just everything.

Plus all sorts of new ones. You don't have to limit yourself to the extreme (feel free to argue about Replicants or Androids here),

This is all for fun and enjoyment, nobody is insulting your favorite movie! There will also be spoilers but if it's for anything still in theaters/relatively new it might be polite to spoiler tag it.

So let's start with a fun one:

Toys in Toy Story are obviously sentient and aware, capable of learning and retaining information with ease. They also apparently can be created out of nearly anything as shown in the trailer for Toy Story 4. As such you have a race of sentient beings who are seemingly enslaved to all of humanity and destroyed at a whim. We're even shown how awful it is when Sid destroys the toys to make new ones... but are the new ones merely the old ones in a new body or are they entirely new beings or are them chimeras created from both? At what point does a Toy stop being the same toy?

Discuss! Or not! Who knows!

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ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Waffles Inc. posted:

If a movie has things like this, those things inform the narrative. For instance


The fact that the Ghostbusters do this heavily informs the narrative and characterizes things. It's not some trivia to be discussed or some fan theory, it's unambiguously what happens in the film

"The ghostbusters extra-judicially imprison ghosts by keeping them locked in a basement and thereby endangering the city of new york" is as basic-level plot explanation as it gets; it's just what happens

Of course, but that still has lots of room to discuss.

The mere existence of Ghosts should be a tremendous world-shattering thing. It confirms the existence of an afterlife in some form. If the ghosts are truly the spirits of those who died, and at least some are capable of communicating, that means the end of the question of life and death because these spirits can presumably answer the question. Yet at the same time they appear largely violent and dangerous, with several situations leading to potentially catastrophic incidents.

Is in, therefore, justified what the Ghostbusters are doing? Or should they be giving their technology to others who have more oversight. Yet we know from the modern world that such technology would likely be misused. Can you imagine a police officer who had the ability to kill you and THEN throw your soul in prison forever without any chance of parole? Or is it instead more morally justified to allow the ghosts to wreck damage as we know ghosts exist and thus there is an afterlife and so the capturing of a soul is arguably a worse crime than murder?

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