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the man's wiki page posted:Ken Penders is an American comic book creator and writer. He makes his living as a freelance writer and artist, accepting assignments involving screenplays, storyboards, character design, backgrounds, website graphics, and some the magazine covers, portraits or commissioned work. Penders illustrated the cover of the complete series DVD set of Sonic the Hedgehog. This is technically an accurate summary, but it also severely undersells just how batshit insane the story of Ken Penders is. Ken Penders, in essence, is the ur-Sonic Fan. Not in the sense that he was the first to like the series, or launched its fandom in any big way, but in the sense that every single awful tendency of the Sonic fandom, from the proliferation of absolute garbage "original characters" to the bizarre sexual fetishism and insistence on grim darkness that pervades many fan works, can be easily traced back to him. This post, over in the Good Sonic Thread, does a much better job than the Wiki page at summing up why people care about Ken Penders: Kurui Reiten posted:First part, Penders stated that in the comic, skunk dude, Penders OC, and full adult Geoffrey St. Johns HAD actually hosed teenager Princess Sally Acorn, and that Sonic may be fast, but he wasn't fast enough on the draw there. You know, for kids. Ken Penders is legitimately, honest-to-God, bugfuck crazy and awful. And this is a man who had, essentially, free rein over the Sonic the Hedgehog IP for over a decade. And the results are exactly what you'd expect: a bunch of horrifying batshit nonsense. Oh, and that thing the last paragraph of his wiki page mentions? Firstly, as mentioned in the effortpost, it only exists because Penders managed to win the rights to his terrible OCs in court. Yes, this actually happened. It also happened, as mentioned, because Archie is incompetent to almost a hilarious extent and somehow managed to lose his contract in a fire. Secondly, holy gently caress, THIS is what it looks like Discendo Vox posted:I mentioned it earlier, so I want to emphasize the 25 years later stories were also in service of getting full body shots of the suddenly bizzarely hourglass female characters in flimsy nightgowns and full leather catsuits. The whole thing was like a glimpse at some sort of perverse meld of this children 6-12 video game comic, transitioning into the nightmarish future IP Penders really wanted to make: Anyhow, I don't really know how to end this, I'm mostly making this thread as a way to get Penders discussion out of the thread for Good Sonic because (while I think Penders discussion is loving hilarious) it has a way of taking over the thread and drowning out discussion of comics that don't suck incredible amounts of rear end.
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# ¿ May 4, 2019 23:14 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 13:26 |
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Yvonmukluk posted:Wow, I never got a full breakdown of just how crazy the Penders story got. It kind of sounds like that Brazilian Megaman comic where the writer created his own original character and had planned to have her kill all the other characters and take over the book, except in that case the editors caught on and fired him (the fact his pet character apparently talked about doing it in the comic might have been a clue). Penders wasn't caught until a Sega exec saw a cover with Sonic crying over a wedding invitation, just completely at random in the grocery store checkout line In 2005 That's how little of a gently caress Sega gave about what Penders was doing to their IP
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# ¿ May 5, 2019 23:10 |
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hey this is the Ken Penders suck zone there's an Anthem suck zone over in Games Sonic Chronicles sucks rear end though and the music is hilarious
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# ¿ May 7, 2019 00:53 |
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Discendo Vox posted:The way he's framed the sexuality of the characters and relationships (setting aside all the furries and children's comic and age stuff) is still pretty darn problematic. Penders has also used cartoon animal species as a race metaphor in really disgusting ways. That said, I think he's got comicsgate-equivalent beliefs, not that he's actually a participant in any way. I am...actually morbidly curious about how he would interact with a woman comics creator. Yeah I don't know, I feel like Penders is a little different from them because... like... he's visibly trying to be progressive he's just also rock gently caress stupid Comicsgate people do their poo poo very deliberately and "deliberate" is a word that is not in Penders' dictionary, dude is one of the biggest bumblefucks in comics
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# ¿ May 7, 2019 16:34 |
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Calaveron posted:Hardly. I mean have you heard of the gently caress ups who were running Archie comics in the 90s? the funny thing is, from an exec perspective, all of this basically makes sense, though. if Sega isn't breathing down your neck about sticking to the established IP, and this weirdo's actually managed to find an audience with what would otherwise be a throwaway licensed book, why wouldn't you just let him go hog wild? i mean, this is pre-2010s Archie we're talking about. like, through the 90s and 2000s (arguably starting in the 80s), Archie desperately wanted to a) not be Archie and b) start bringing in the kind of money that not-Archie companies were making. there was little to nothing more desperately uncool than the Archie comics themselves in that time period, so they were pretty much scrambling for any other IP they could get or make that would possibly bring people in. Sonic in general is an obvious good call for the time period- the IP was hot as gently caress basically from 1991 straight to 2005 (and is still viable enough for IDW to immediately snap the license up the second Archie dropped it, keep in mind), and was especially hot with Archie's traditional demos. it's blindingly obvious why they made the decision to start making Sonic comics in the first place, and it was a straight up good idea. past that, Penders' ideas, on paper, would have looked like a sure sell in the 90s. firstly, his work was pretty clearly drawing shitloads of influence from the SatAM cartoon, which had just ended in 1994 as a critically acclaimed show with an almost stupidly devoted fanbase; you could honestly say he was basically writing fanfic for that show. secondly, I'm assuming we're all familiar with 90s comics as a whole; edge was in, so the work being weirdly dark for Sonic/Archie probably worked in its favor, and a lot of the overly unwholesome aspects of Penders' work probably just straight up went over everyone's heads since nobody knew what the hell a furry was. thirdly, a lot of his worst narrative flaws are more present in whole story arcs than individual issues, and I don't think the execs really cared about the former as long as everything looked fine issue-to-issue. like, the contract situation, sure, but really, nothing about Penders is their fault. Penders is a monster entirely of his own creation.
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# ¿ May 8, 2019 19:29 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 13:26 |
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yeah if anyone has any effortposts on how bugfuck crazy Penders' writing is, feel free
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# ¿ May 13, 2019 00:53 |