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Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

DrSunshine posted:

What can we do to fight these myths? How do you undo a self-ingrained cognitive bias? How do you counter the rampant misinformation that plagues Twitter and Youtube, allowing people to self-radicalize into insane positions with no grounding in actual science?

You can't fix someone ignorant who wants to be like that.

It sounds pithy but there's just a bunch of prewired biases in our brains and if someone wants to drink the kool-aid and have their world views reinforced instead of actually learning true information and discarding beliefs that don't stand up to scrutiny then there's not really much you can do about it.


Verviticus posted:

are people of every age group equally susceptible? i feel like at least intuitively, thats not the case

It's the case.

It's even worse than that iirc - your brain doesn't receive a piece of information and then judge veracity. It just assumes it is true and then if necessary goes about disproving it (whether consciously or subconsciously). Sometimes it doesn't; that's how a lot of idiot information gets spread. People hear it, it sounds more or less right, end of thought process. They don't critically examine everything that makes its way into the 'held belief' bucket. Even if you think you're a good skeptic you're very susceptible to something like disconfirmation bias (which Maine Paineframe describes above, basically).

Aside from the usual biases you hear about there's also stuff like anchoring which... hoo boy. Studies around that suggest that people basically just believe whatever they are told (Gilbert, Krull, and Malone authored a good one).

Most people are easily manipulated and led astray. It's not because they're stupid or naive necessarily, that's just how our brains are wired. 100,000 years ago not listening to the elders in the tribe meant you'd probably die fairly quickly. Doesn't really apply anymore obviously. They need to be taught critical thinking skills and how to parse information in the modern age from childhood but they aren't. Some would argue that is by design.

The lens through which we perceive the world is itself flawed and some people just don't want to hear that either. If Jesus appears in front of them then that's a miracle not a medical emergency (after all it is much more likely that you are suddenly hallucinating).

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(Study 2). In fact, merely comprehending a false proposition increased the likelihood that subjects would later consider it true

:)

Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 18:55 on May 14, 2019

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Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

DrSunshine posted:

Maybe what we should do is just do what Goebbels said and repeat something louder and more often, except instead it'd be the truth that we're repeating, rather than lies.

Maybe so! Or maybe work on shorter "sound bites" to use in opposition rather than trying to debate every minor point in front of an audience that isn't going to care so much about the details.

I will say that it takes just a moment to say something false that might take 10-20 minutes to unpack and explain. Kind of a losing battle in that context. Just look at Trump - by the time you've finished explaining why what he said was wrong he's moved on to 5-6 more wrong points down the line.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I saw some Texas representative calling vaccines 'sorcery' and full on using the " quotes around "science" as if it is just some other religion trying to take over Christendom or something.

These dudes are fully anti-intellectual and proud of it. The whole world is just a test of their faith.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
sPoOkY sCaRy CoMmUnIsTs
using crickets to kill your kids


I feel like the cold war really did a number on a lot of people.

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