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Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?





CMON's ASoiF Tabletop Miniatures game is a 32mm scale tabletop miniatures game set in the world of Westeros from George RR Martin's popular novels. Note that the licence is for the books specifically and not their popular HBO TV adaptation, so don't expect perfect likenesses of Peter Dinklage or Lena Heady rendered in molded plastic.



The game is a relatively light and quick-playing rank-and-flanker in the vein of Warhammer Fantasy, though instead of I Go- You Go turn structure, each turn players trade off activating combat and noncombat units, so thinking about the optimal order to perform your actions in is important, complicated by the fact that your opponent isn't just sitting around waiting for their turn to play. Unit trays are a fair bit more maneuverable than in conventional mass battle games, meaning if you position poorly your little sword guys aren't necessarily just out of the fight.



One of the more novel innovations of the game is the tactics board, representing the intrigues that happen away from the storm of swords. Instead of activating a combat unit to charge, maneuver, make a melee attack or loose a bunch of arrows, etc, you can instead activate a non-combat unit to claim a zone on the tactics board, granting a powerful boon to your army and often synergizing with unique abilities of that model itself. Once a space on the tactics board is claimed by your opponent, it's theirs for that turn, creating an tension between activating units for an immediate board impact, or making sure you get the optimal position in the... game of thrones.

The game is very breezy, the rules pamphlet covers everything plus several different objective-based scenario modes in 30 pages and the unit cards aren't terribly covered with stats and keywords. Morale is handled in a very straightforward way- failed checks cause extra wounds based on the margin of failure. Works for me-- those guys exercised the better part of valor.

There are currently four and a half armies.

The well-equipped and duplicitious Lannisters.
The stoic and ferocious Starks.
The versatile and durable Men of the Night's Watch
The numerous and savage Free Folk
and... the Neutrals. Currently this is represented almost entirely by units from House Bolton, but presumably other lesser houses that switch allegiance during the series will get slotted in here. You can either play a complete Neutral army, or take them as an option in another force, though never more than 50% of your total build points.

Evidently the next release is the Baratheons.

The game is sold in the Stark vs. Lannister starter, as well as single player starters for the Night's Watch and Free Folk. Individual units are available as expansions, as well as "hero sets," which give you new commander, character, and non-combat unit options from your faction. The Starter set is one of the more "complete" I've seen for this sort of game, fielding all the options in it in a fairly normal army gets you to 35ish out of 40 standard sized game points on each side, just getting a single additional unit should get you to a legal army. Of course like all these sorts of games you can go hog wild and get a lot more than that.

I enjoy it and think it's reasonably fun, a few games into it. If you don't like it, that's cool too, I just wanted to make a thread to talk about it. :unsmith: Valar morghulis. :black101:

Here is a builder, so you can marshall your forces to take the iron throne:
https://asoiafbuilder.com/

Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 01:01 on May 18, 2019

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Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



No. 1 Apartheid Fan posted:

Boo! There's so many interesting options for armies with different models and playstyles - Dorne, Dothraki, White Walkers - that this feels like a boring choice. I guess it makes sense from a model-making perspective, though.

Yeah, probably the most "exotic" one so far is the Free Folk. They get no-fooling giants! I would be surprised if they drag their feet on Targ forces too long... The icon for "solo" units (monsters and such) is a dragon, and that's probably not for nothing.

quote:

You said the starter sets were really good; how do you feel the overall value and buy-in compares to other fantasy wargames like WHFB? Do the models look nice? This could be a game that I could sell to non-wargaming friends who like ASOIAF/GOT.

Compared to WHFB back in the day where you needed to buy like 4-5 boxes of spearmen/handgunners/goblin brick throwers/whatever just to make a unit, it's great. You spend 30 bucks MSRP and you have a full unit and maybe an attachment for it, nothing more to buy to field it, slots right into your army. The starter is a really good value if you pick it up at a discount, which you can do nearly all the time. For about a hundo you get 4 units for each army with multiple commander and attachment options, a real credible starter unlike some games that just give you the tiniest taste of a full size game.

The plastic on the models is decent. I'm not like a plastic scientist but it's certainly better than Wizkids or WotC crap, though a bit softer than GW. It holds detail really well and the figures are quite nice painted up:



In the interest of full disclosure I should point out that currently some of the models are only available to people who backed the kickstarter or buying second hand from said people. CMON has said they will make every one of them* available at retail At Some Point. So if you care about having all the options NOW, it's a bit of a hurdle.

*they made a joke noncombat figure with rules that say it literally does nothing to represent GRRM as a chronicalling maester that you can put on the table with your army, this is truly KS exclusive.

E: One thing that appeals to me as a Gamer Dad witha full time job and too many loving hobbies for his negligible spare time is all the models are pre-assembled. You can grab a unit off the FLGS shelf, open it, pop the dudes in the tray and be playing it in minutes.

Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 00:03 on May 16, 2019

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Clawtopsy posted:

Finally, Stannis the Mannis can conquer all of Westeros outside my fanfiction

I am 100% going to get Baratheons to run the Westerosi Nixon


Also Davos and the Red Woman should make for baller NCUs.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Clawtopsy posted:

So if Stannis is going to be announced soon, is there much point to picking up some Boltons? I like the look of the dog unit.

Yes! Unless they radically change the rules on us, your Baratheon army can be up to 50% Bolton by volume.

Perhaps that cruel bastard son of Roose's can be redeemed in service to The Lord of Light.

Also Bolton heavy cav is the only cav in the game so far with a 2 up armor save.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



You can use a Neutral commander in a house army. Loose the Roose!


Sandor is in the Lannister Heroes I box. As you might guess he's a Lannister alligned unit attachment with a keyword that also indicates he's house Clegane (but nothing really looks for such a keyword currently.)

They have already released multiple variants of the same peeps (mounted and foot Mountain and Brynden Tully, Regular and Maimed Jaime) so a neutral version of Sandor at a later point isn't out of the question.

E: I hope the Nights Watch and Free Folk starters being sold the gently caress out everywhere means the game is doing well

Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 04:43 on May 17, 2019

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



A big flaming stink posted:

this seems poorly timed

Because the television show upon which the books is based has absolutely cratered in quality, or because Trump's trade war is going to spike the price of all our little plastic dolly games?

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Clawtopsy posted:

https://asoiafbuilder.com/

This is a helpful tool, should it go in the OP?

Done, thanks.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



I want to 3d print up my own if I can find some nice files. Especially because I can do flayed men ones.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



It just gets worse as the seasons go on, as do all the costumes. Zombie Mountain looks like Shredder.

I'm gonna paint all my Boltons first, and print some of these guys out as activation markers:

https://pinshape.com/items/38963-3d-printed-game-of-thrones-bolton-marker

Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 15:58 on May 22, 2019

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



They need to release the Blackguards. It's weird to run a Bolton army because you have this insane superheavy cav that's immune to practically everything but Wildfire and then these half-naked infantrymen who die to s stiff breeze, and no middleground. I want my men in metal dresses.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Love the foliage tufts.

Today is also release day for a bunch of bullcrap. I plan to pick up Geoffrey and the Kingsguard and the second Stark Heroes box. Apparently Barriston is in it, which is weird since Joffrey dismissed him as one of his first official acts.

Probably gonna try to do Direwolf Skew at some point now that you can get up to three of the things on the table.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Now we can sell the rest of our models and serve the true king.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Want to pet that doggo.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Loving the one wolf moon freehand on Cat's cloak.

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Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Ugleb posted:

Nicely done! Do they come with those bases?

E: i am an idiot who didn't look closely.

Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Jun 20, 2019

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