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i just rewrote a 400-line python 2 script in 60 lines of python 3 and am forced to concede that python is in fact good
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May 20, 2019 09:54
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the more I use python the more i love it currently using atom and some plugins to make it a ide and am trying to get my head around git lmao
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May 21, 2019 03:39
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i wanted to be a sublime edit man but atom made it too much easier i looked at pycharm and looks good but wanna keep it free and then look at django
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May 21, 2019 04:02
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atom is garbage use vscode
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May 21, 2019 04:45
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🤔 well tbf that’s a solid argument. that’s the new microsoft one that’s kinda slim right? if it had python ide functions i just might
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May 21, 2019 05:29
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yes its a first party extension too https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/languages/python
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May 21, 2019 05:33
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pram posted:atom is garbage use vscode didn’t know your name was atom!
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May 21, 2019 06:24
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nice not reaching at all
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May 21, 2019 07:05
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pram posted:yes its a first party extension too  e: I am using it and it is good. the intellisense or whatever is leagues beyond echinopsis fucked around with this message at 12:27 on May 21, 2019 |
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May 21, 2019 08:52
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Yeah vscode is like atom but good.
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May 21, 2019 14:22
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echinopsis posted:i wanted to be a sublime edit man but atom made it too much easier pycharm is free tho? echinopsis posted:and then look at django oh, yeah, it’s not free if you’re doing webdev, but you shouldn’t put yourself through that unless someone is paying you to do it (and if someone is but they are not willing to buy you good tools then  )
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May 21, 2019 18:51
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flakeloaf posted:SYN/ACK when the firewalls fell
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May 21, 2019 19:00
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Rahu posted:Yeah vscode is like atom but good. it owns and i’m subject to spending farrrr too long looking at themes and fonts and deciding if I want to display whitespace or not the program I wanted to make, I made. I compromised significantly but it produced the data I wanted it too in the end so who am I to complain
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May 21, 2019 19:06
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python is the bee's knees for making a command-line tool to do some random poo poo, argparse owns
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May 21, 2019 20:10
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wrong, rust is the bee's knees for that with thunderclap
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May 21, 2019 20:48
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Bloody posted:wrong, rust is the bee's knees for that with thunderclap rust is more like the bee's dick: not fully-formed
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May 21, 2019 20:49
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wake me up once I can use rust from the package manager, and install crates from there too I don't want to depend on crates.io/github being around just to make fart programs, otherwise I'd be using npm or some poo poo also wake me up once the syntax stabilizes
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May 21, 2019 20:52
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Bloody posted:thunderclap Don’t talk about your mother like that.
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May 21, 2019 20:54
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PyCharm has a community edition and it's also good. Good for typeahead, good for usage lookup, good for git, good for tests. Idk why you would use another IDE if you're using Python tbqh
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May 21, 2019 23:20
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Kilometres Davis posted:PyCharm has a community edition and it's also good. Good for typeahead, good for usage lookup, good for git, good for tests. eh I’ve only just started with vscode and I have little experience with anything else but what would pycharm bring to the table the vschode isn’t also the aesthetic of vschode which i’m guessing is stolen from atom is very very naaaice like I want to code just so I can use vschode
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May 21, 2019 23:28
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echinopsis posted:eh I’ve only just started with vscode and I have little experience with anything else but what would pycharm bring to the table the vschode isn’t I can't say for sure but I'm guessing VSCode doesn't have project level virtual environments by default, their typeahead is unlikely to be as comprehensive and definitely won't be as fast/responsive (certainly wasn't when I last used it for JS), and they're both customisable in colour and font so idk if you mean something else by aesthetics. By all means use whatever gets the job done but I've used Atom, VSCode, and PyCharm and I'm gonna keep using PyCharm.
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May 21, 2019 23:35
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Poopernickel posted:wake me up once I can use rust from the package manager, and install crates from there too rust is in rhel8 and the syntax is stable, please enjoy
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echinopsis posted:vschode obvi brought to you by miCro$oFt
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Rahu posted:rust is in rhel8 and the syntax is stable, please enjoy nice, are any crates in there yet?
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Maybe, i just saw in the release notes that it has rustc and cargo. I haven't tried it out yet.
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agreed op, its good imo
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May 22, 2019 06:47
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coding is about fun. coding is about love. the most important thing is that you enjoy coding. python gives this to me in spades
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May 22, 2019 08:29
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life is mostly pain and that is also true of coding
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May 22, 2019 09:13
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Kilometres Davis posted:I can't say for sure but I'm guessing VSCode doesn't have project level virtual environments by default, their typeahead is unlikely to be as comprehensive and definitely won't be as fast/responsive (certainly wasn't when I last used it for JS), and they're both customisable in colour and font so idk if you mean something else by aesthetics. heh I am learning how to virtual environment in vscode but I think it's quite manual compared to what you're talking about which is probably quite automated apprecaite your opinion, I spend more time caring about the ide and aesthetic than actually getting poo poo done because I am a hobbiest loser but well but nothing
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PyCharm is really good. the remote interpreter stuff is slick as heck
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leftist heap posted:PyCharm is really good. the remote interpreter stuff is slick as heck is this debugging something that is happening somewhere else? like on a heroku instance?
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echinopsis posted:is this debugging something that is happening somewhere else? like on a heroku instance? basically yes. PyCharm also has a bunch of built-in presets for running your interpreter in a VM or Docker image, and can keep your code in sync with a remote host. i have one set up in a GCE VM in our staging environment that is helpful and gets better speeds running against cloud storage.
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May 22, 2019 14:58
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animist posted:life is mostly pain and that is also true of coding
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echinopsis posted:coding is about fun. coding is about love. the most important thing is that you enjoy coding. python gives this to me in spades Also PyCharm is very good.
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May 22, 2019 16:54
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hmm feels like for where I am now, vscode and pycharm are offering the same thing, but if I ever get to where I want to (which relies on motivation and we all know how that goes) then pycharm will give me the goods I need to succeed
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also where are these fat stacks 
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May 22, 2019 18:21
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echinopsis posted:also where are these fat stacks janitoring mobile phone tracking data for bigcorps
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echinopsis posted:also where are these fat stacks
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thanks for reminding me of the time i got hoodwinked into getting a cs degree because "coding is fun," op
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