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Here are designs for the proposal. The Krasny Krim is a light CL specializing in autoloaded light guns firing in every direction at once. Top speed is 31kt. Carries torpedoes for nostalgia.  The Politburo Kirov is the return of the Kirov after Politburo Approved dieting regimen. Totally not a gulag. Will not likely destroy Soviet economy by itself. That is for the other ships.  One half of our Ultimate Soviet Croctopus battlefleet, we present the Krokodil. It has 20x 17" guns and a 32kt top speed. Completely guaranteed to result in sunken ships when it shows up in battle area. Probably Royal Navy.   The second half of the Ultimate Soviet Croctopus battlefleet is the Osminog class carrier. 91 plons, heavily armored, many guns/tentacles. Should always be with Krokodil for full effect. It has as much armor, I think. Maybe more. Carrier is important part. Fine boats to leave to successor of mighty Comrade Admiral. Will have nightmares about croctopi for decades to come. Free ushanka with purchase of any boat. Files for all four: https://gofile.io/?c=jPwEjC
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shalafi4 posted:You totally will not misappropriate funds and take bribes from the highest bidder only to dissapear to your own tropical island the day after retirement... How do you know my list of games to LP? Who sent you?
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Grey Hunter posted:How do you know my list of games to LP? The Cheka sends its regards. Honestly we're jealous that we didn't think of it first. We will be sure to send a mail order totally not a spy to keep an eye on you.
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The Bureau submits the following designs as part of the Soviet Navy of the 1950s AND BEYOND The Albazin Class Light Cruiser is designed strictly for fleet support. More specifically, it is designed to be the world's most effective anti-aircraft platform, pound-for-pound. It spews death skywards with twelve 6" autoloaded DP guns, plus a robust suite of dedicated AA guns. It also provides four scout floatplanes, allowing the carrier force to concentrate its attack aircraft and not have to worry about scouting for the enemy fleet.   The Poltova Class Heavy Cruiser is a lone wolf hunter. She is designed to outfight ALL of the heavy cruisers that are currently flooding the world's navies: she is mostly immune to the 10" guns that arm the world's CAs, and at 32 knots, she's also one of the fastest surface combatants afloat. She will hunt raiders, win cruiser battles, and can serve in fleet support in a pinch.  The Borodino Class Battlecruiser is the final evolution of the big gun surface ship. That is, she's the final concession to the superiority of airpower. Her primary role is in fleet support: her 24 5" DP guns help to protect both her and her carrier, while her mammoth 7" of deck armor ensures immunity from all but the biggest and most accurate AP bombs. She also provides four scout floatplanes, further enhancing fleet scouting activities Her secondary role is as a surface hunter: she's virtually immune to cruiser caliber gunfire, and her 16" guns are all pointed forward for better hunting.  And finally, the new crown jewel of the Soviet Navy: the Khiva Class Fleet Carrier. She is designed to both dish out punishment from the air, and take it. Her Sunday Punch comes from a 100-strong air wing, while her 16 autoloaded 5" guns, 100 lighter AA guns, and a total of 6.5 inches of deck armor protect her from enemy bombers.  
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What is with the lack of DP secondary on the carrier and tertiaries on everything else?
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None of these ships will even be completed within the playthrough's remaining time so I doubt they need to bother making them the best possible designs. E: Also the latest patches tried to cut down on main gun and tertiary/secondary numbers anyway. Like cowards who don't want 36 main gun battlecruisers with superfiring wing turrets, I think the developers didn't want to make it optimal to put 48 secondary/tertiary barrels on most BBs/BCs. Night10194 fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Feb 19, 2020 |
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Feb 19, 2020 03:24
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Night10194 posted:None of these ships will even be completed within the playthrough's remaining time so I doubt they need to bother making them the best possible designs. I feel like we're going to hear from the Orkz about this pretty soon...
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Feb 19, 2020 04:08
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Right, vote time!
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In response to the request by the admiralty and supreme council, here are the designs proposed: Dnieper-class  https://www.dropbox.com/s/nsi8czumchm7q1h/Dnieper.30d?dl=0 Functionally an overgrown destroyer, the Dnieper class is a ship that can help deal with enemy destroyers while being able to deliver torpedoes as well as a destroyer. Her anti-air armament is nothing to scoff at either and she can contribute to the anti air fire in service of protecting her charge. Azov-class  https://www.dropbox.com/s/wb0rziv2msnxdq5/Azov.30d?dl=0 A heavy cruiser built around its forward facing auto-loading 203mm guns, what it would lack in punch would be made up by rate of fire as it can correct its shots faster. This would also be invaluable in close range engagements as it can fire its broadsides more rapidly than ships without autoloaders. Baikal-class  https://www.dropbox.com/s/205sei5d43ce3hc/Baikal.30d?dl=0 Bearing the largest guns ever built and fielded on the high seas, the Baikal is functionally built around being able to service and deliver its 510mm shells to the enemy. And for good measure she has a decent design speed as well as a fearsome anti-air suite. Baku-class   https://www.dropbox.com/s/d2s6uophpotbw5f/Baku.30d?dl=0 Built off of observations of the Rurik-class carriers in the last war, the new Baku-class introduces armored compartments to help with mitigating damage from enemy planes. She still maintains the same design speed and plane complement of the Rurik and has new passive countermeasures to help defeat torpedo attacks.
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I hereby place my vote for ALL OF THE ABOVE, to be split as evenly as possible and determined by random number generator in the event of remainders. Lets run this poo poo into the ground.
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Pickled Tink posted:I hereby place my vote for ALL OF THE ABOVE, to be split as evenly as possible and determined by random number generator in the event of remainders. Lets run this poo poo into the ground. Do this but just round all numbers up in the event of remainders
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i81icu812 posted:Do this but just round all numbers up in the event of remainders seconded this
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Pickled Tink posted:I hereby place my vote for ALL OF THE ABOVE, to be split as evenly as possible and determined by random number generator in the event of remainders. Lets run this poo poo into the ground. Though this idea has merit, I must cast my vote for One of Each! if not enough designs were put forth, pick some runners up from previous design attempts. also: shalafi4 posted:You totally will not misappropriate funds and take bribes from the highest bidder only to dissapear to your own tropical island the day after retirement... Second.
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 January 1954  I order a large number of ships to be built. People accuse me of lining my own pockets by taking bribes for taking on so many projects at once, but I have my eyes on a nice little island....  Tensions continue to rise. February 1954  For money for fleet expansion? Yes sir!  March 1954  The number of ships being built increases a lot, but parliament starts to take the money from us. April 1954  This is costing us 75 million a month. We cn keep this up for a couple of months before we have to slow some production. My swiss bank account grows. May 1954  Our bank balance plummets. June 1954  Now I need to bring the budget back under control. July 1954  I have to halt the construction of all capital ships. August 1954  Things are quiet. I have lots of paperwork for retirement. September 1954  Everyone seems to want to steal from us! At least I get the new bombers out. October 1954  The battle of spies continues. November 1954  Better sub are on their way. December 1954  As this is the last year, and there is no money available, are you guys okay if we skip the laws and push on?
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Let's actively end this There have been rumours that certain high-level staff have been embezzling funds and are preparing to flee the country by ship. All available ships must be on the active fleet to prevent this.
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Feb 20, 2020 07:53
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Go ahead, Grey. We’re unlikely to see the new ships leave the yards anyway.
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Feb 20, 2020 08:00
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Future videogames now have an excuse for overgunning the Russian navy's tree especially in the destroyer line. 
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January 1955  The Germans get a load more ships off the slipway. February 1955  Ahh, the quiet days before retirement. Questions questions questions – panama hat or no panama hat? March 1955  Nice and quiet. April 1955  Why do I think war will kick off at any moment. May 1955  Nothing much happens. June 1955  We get a load of submarines. This will help me successor. July 1955  Most boring last update ever. August 1955  Hey! Like I care! September 1955  Ahh, I look forward to a quiet life. October 1955  I can't remember the last time I had so few events! November 1955  More like it! December 1955  The Navy begins to grow again.  But, after 55 years in charge, it's time for me to retire.  I've had ups and downs, victories and defeats.  At least they will name an aircraft carrier after me -if they can ever afford to build one. For me, I have my eyes on a nice island. Called Tropico.....
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Congratulations on finishing the LP! I hope you will enjoy spending the rest of the cold war somewhere far warmer. Perhaps they will make you El Presidente; you have the most important qualifications. A fancy uniform and a Swiss bank account!
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Thanks for the LP - I got fully into rule the waves 2 and learnt a lot from the thread.
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Feb 21, 2020 14:26
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Thanks Grey, good LP.
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Night10194 posted:Congratulations on finishing the LP! I hope you will enjoy spending the rest of the cold war somewhere far warmer. Who knows? The 3D Vote As promised. I will now prepare to do a 3D model of one of the ships from the game. please cast your vote for whichever ship you wish that to be!
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If aren't choosing the Party Yacht, they really need to re-evaluate their priorities in life
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Grey Hunter posted:Who knows? Can there be any question?! It must be the imperial yacht BC Imperator Nikolai Veliki!
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mercenarynuker posted:If aren't choosing the Party Yacht, they really need to re-evaluate their priorities in life Fully agree.
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mercenarynuker posted:If aren't choosing the Party Yacht, they really need to re-evaluate their priorities in life How could we choose anything else?
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Since we never built the battleship Yamato Carrier, I guess the Yacht is my vote as well. Make sure to model in the horses.
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Sammich Reaper posted:Thanks Grey, good LP. This. Also who won the design contest everyone forgot about
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Grey Hunter posted:Who knows? Once you have the model done I can get model of it printed up 
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mercenarynuker posted:If aren't choosing the Party Yacht, they really need to re-evaluate their priorities in life
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My BuOrd subtitles, in order but without dates because I didn't record them in buord.txt: BYURO BOYEPRIPASOV the tsar loves torpedoes  Whale adventures  the world wonders red ones go faster  we have a need, a need for speed  let's go fly a kite  drowning in submarines (url missing, too lazy to go find this update to grab it)  is anyone even reading this?  it's gonna take a lot to drag me away from you perhaps the game is bugged  To fly a dirigible over Ceylon, now that would be a pleasant thing  Shorty got low low low low low low low low  That'll teach you to anticipate my research priorities!  no smoking  The blimp shall set us free  I feel like we're overdue for a communist revolution?  Like seriously did Lenin die of smallpox as a child in this timeline?  YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! AH, drat YOU! GOD drat YOU ALL TO HELL!!  Great white whale of the sky  you're just lucky the tsar got his blimps or you'd be hosed now, let me tell you  don't care  just because you haven't seen him in months doesn't mean he died!  How could the tsar have ordered a new palace if he were dead, right?  The tsarina suggested that we simply "no longer wage war"  Handwritten on lilac-colored stationary  Just wait till she gets her hands on Sun Tsu  Our ships are more fabulous than theirs  the person who is called the son is actually the father  A restoration of traditional values  It's more than a bird, it's more than a plane, it's a bird plane]  nobody is ever going to read these things, or care, but I can't stop now, can I?  it turns out I could, heh
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Good LP thanks for playing. But the last 10 years really confirms for me, anyways that the first game was more enjoyable and interesting over all.
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Yeah I found this eminently enjoyable and the thread even convinced me to eventually buy the drat game in spite of my severe misgivings towards the devs' dumbshit business method. But I think maybe RtW2 is not a significant improvement over the first, certainly not enough of one to justify the sale. The first 25 years are generally better to play in 2, but as aircraft get added and weird restrictions on ship design for, I don't know, verisimilitude or something hamper my enjoyment a bit. There's no tangible benefit to taking colonies or really world-changing situations to engage in. Aircraft are more of a chore and frankly I wish the game leaned a little more into the 'what if' side of things and let us get crazy with designs and alt-reality poo poo like massive blimp-carriers or something. Maybe it'll come together better in future patches, but I didn't even think about missiles until this LP started popping out techs that have literally no impact on your game. eh.
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I can't imagine guided missiles are going to be particularly fun. I love this dumb game, my issue with CVs is mostly that they're much less interesting to design than surface ships. Make the boat reasonably priced, jam on as many aircraft as you can, make it fast, put some AA on, you're done. Every late game CV is just a Midway. Meanwhile late game super BBs are crazy hubris palaces on the sea, built entirely to show off you can still build them even though they aren't that great anymore, and I love them. I'm also amused that 20 inch guns are genuinely pretty bad and you should always stop at 18 (or 17).
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Leperflesh posted:My BuOrd subtitles, in order but without dates because I didn't record them in buord.txt: I never did learn how to read Russian but I enjoyed the crylic text through our Russian fight through
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Leperflesh posted:My BuOrd subtitles, in order but without dates because I didn't record them in buord.txt: This was great, btw.
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Night10194 posted:I can't imagine guided missiles are going to be particularly fun. A big problem is that the battle types and areas you are fighting over don't evolve properly to showcase the impact technology has on how battles are fought. That and the air interface is tacked on and too abstract for a wargame. This does provide the right feel for an admiral sorting through hit reports, for example, but is bad gameplay. For examples, invasion battles are about sinking the transports, and at their end the transports just mill around the target waiting for people to stop shooting. You never get to do invasion bombardment support or CAS. Your light carrier forces can't be set up to doctrinally screen heavier forces from air attack in a meaningful way, only in a tactical sense. There's no long-range interception of air attack. No provision for ground radar controlling big zones of sea. You can't form semi-permanent groups or task forces of ships. There's no long-range refueling-driven operations. The strategic areas of the map don't change as the years go on. obviously I don't expect everything from this game but this is what needs to be thought about in order to make the game work better for the interwar and ww2 eras
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Blocked out with some detail on it - this has taken me half the time to do that the completed title card I did last year for this thread.
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