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sum
Nov 15, 2010

I'll be a shipwright, assuming that's something you have to sign up for.

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Asehujiko
Apr 6, 2011
Voted playing as Britain so that every battle is a new chance to sink the Royal Navy, regardless of our opponent.

Infidelicious
Apr 9, 2013

ArbitraryTA posted:

Does the CSA option imply that the United States no longer exists or that they would be operating as a rival regional power?

Rival Regional Power.

ArbitraryTA
May 3, 2011

ArbitraryTA posted:

Does the CSA option imply that the United States no longer exists or that they would be operating as a rival regional power?

Infidelicious posted:

Rival Regional Power.

I can't believe I'm saying this then but folks we gotta vote CSA this time. A RtW game with a split America sounds too good to pass up.

Infidelicious
Apr 9, 2013

ArbitraryTA posted:

I can't believe I'm saying this then but folks we gotta vote CSA this time. A RtW game with a split America sounds too good to pass up.

It's an interesting geographic situation, a bit similar to France though. (needing to split between 2 sea zones one of which is dominated by an actual naval power)


Italy is cool because you can actually use Short Ranged and Cramped ships effectively, and get ton for ton local superiority against France, or the UK.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
Austria Hungary is going to be good entirely because of how unknown and counter factual things can be.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:

Infidelicious posted:

Italy is cool because you can actually use Short Ranged and Cramped ships effectively, and get ton for ton local superiority against France, or the UK.
This sounds good, actually. Especially when they somehow have to fight Japan with entirely inappropriate boats.

Infidelicious
Apr 9, 2013

90s Cringe Rock posted:

This sounds good, actually. Especially when they somehow have to fight Japan with entirely inappropriate boats.

Unfortunately I think Japan isn't in Italy's game, AH replaces them (or Russia?).

Invader Zym
Sep 19, 2002

Volmarias posted:

Austria Hungary is going to be good entirely because of how unknown and counter factual things can be.

In my (RTW1) game as Austria I got into a war with America which lasted years with only a few small naval battles. America finally surrendered when our army won a major land victory...

Xarn
Jun 26, 2015
Sounds perfectly reasonable tbqh

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
Some thoughts about nations

AH is OK, but the fleet is small, and you can't really pursue any kind of operations except for Med opponents. You can of course beat up on the Italians and take some of their colonies and go from there, but it's a bit of a slog and also (paradoxically) not that difficult.

Italy has a lot of constraints and too many theaters, so it's a bit of a challenge. Logical opponent France is a lot bigger and badder.

France is Italy on steroids, fewer constraints but even more theaters that require defending. Not as hard as Italy or Russia, but you also share theaters with the RN at home and Germany at home, which can be dicey. Beat up on Italy and take their stuff is the name of the game.

Germany has a lot of advantages, and has a globally preponderant position that rivals GB and France.

Russia has a bunch of disadvantages and has to divide between two remote theaters. Tough.

The USA is an economic powerhouse and is essentially playing on easy mode.

The UK is an economic powerhouse but sometimes the boats sink. This could be fun because Grey is really good at sinking the RN, and the RN is really good at spontaneously blowing up, which is a potent combination.

Japan can very easily take over Asia but it gets kind of boring.

Don't play as sesech scum, gently caress the CSA.

We would get a good and difficult game with Italy and Russia. We would get a good and somewhat difficult game with France or Japan. We would get a possibly funny game with the UK. We would get a bad game with AH, Germany, and the USA.

Therefore I vote for the UK so that Grey can fulfill his destiny of leaving none of Her Majesty's ships unsunk. Otherwise, Russia is a very good challenge.

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
Vote UK so that His Majesty's Own Shipyards can show that the REAL problem with battlecruisers was that they had TOO MUCH armor and not enough guns or speed.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

habeasdorkus posted:

Vote UK so that His Majesty's Own Shipyards can show that the REAL problem with battlecruisers was that they had TOO MUCH armor and not enough guns or speed.

Fisher'd

FrangibleCover
Jan 23, 2018

Nothing going on in my quiet corner of the Pacific.

This is the life. I'm just lying here in my hammock in Townsville, sipping a G&T.
Personally I like Japan, I think that in the longer game of RtW2 you might be able to use American decolonisation to get yourself into a position where you take over the entirety of Asia in the first 30 years and then can actually go toe-to-toe with the US in their own sea zones. Also, the redesigned Pacific and Surprise Attack! with carriers should both be really interesting gameplay shakeups.

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?
UK and we declare war on the CSA ASAP. Let's show them what foreign intervention from a fully operational battlefleet actually means.

Also, Battlecruisers with big guns and no armour.

Also Also France is the enemy. Germany is our friend and we are directly related to them by blood.

Also Also Also do not ally with the Italians.

Also Also Also Also HOW did GH get a Review copy? High Praise for him indeed.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Comstar posted:

Also Also Also Also HOW did GH get a Review copy? High Praise for him indeed.

Asking the real questions here

TheFlyingLlama
Jan 2, 2013

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and be a llama?



I'm not saying grey was directly responsible for probably a dozen sales when he played the last game, but I'll also say that I personally bought it after seeing his play through.

and I know I'm not the only one

wedgekree
Feb 20, 2013
Can we make carrier submarines which launch planes that have frogmen in them to use for commando operations? Like, just airdrop in them tod estroy the Panama Canal.

Just like Japan did

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


I'll admit the CSA seems very strategically interesting but I'd have to pretend it's like some kind of Fire On the Mountain afro-socialist secessionist south and not the real one.

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

CSA is actually a rather dull game because you are weak and your home base is the Carribbean and you lack capability to really project power beyond it. You can scrap with rUSA and UK/France about Carribbean colonies but they are super low value and you can't maintain a fleet in like northern Europe or Northern America to blockade anyone so wars tend towards inconclusive.

[E] it's a fun underdog game sometimes as even in CSA fantasy world nowhere near on the level of the USA so they will beat the poo poo out of you if it comes to an actual fight.

Saros fucked around with this message at 01:28 on May 18, 2019

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

Vote 1 Brexit. UK

And Signing up to be BuOrd Our torpedoes work fine, what are you talking about??

apostateCourier
Oct 9, 2012


Comstar posted:

UK and we declare war on the CSA ASAP. Let's show them what foreign intervention from a fully operational battlefleet actually means.

Also, Battlecruisers with big guns and no armour.

Also Also France is the enemy. Germany is our friend and we are directly related to them by blood.

Also Also Also do not ally with the Italians.

Also Also Also Also HOW did GH get a Review copy? High Praise for him indeed.

I like this plan. UK and wardec CSA when viable.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

UK and reassert glorious Albion's rule over the colonials in the New World.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
UK because sinking the Royal Navy is Grey's destiny.

Infidelicious
Apr 9, 2013

Part of the fun of the last LP was not having the money to do everything people wanted... that is just not really a thing with the UK or US.


Also, please tell me you're playing on rear admiral mode, at least Grey.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
Are we voting on countries here or at the link Grey posted?

wedgekree
Feb 20, 2013
Does the game have a somewhat more robust diplomacy engine? I always thought the earlier one was weird in the sense other countries couldn't actually declare war against anyone ont the player.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

wedgekree posted:

Does the game have a somewhat more robust diplomacy engine? I always thought the earlier one was weird in the sense other countries couldn't actually declare war against anyone ont the player.

In RtW2, if you’re allied with someone and go to war, their ships can appear in battles to assist you (same in reverse if you’re at war with two countries at once). But no, AI nations still don’t go to war with each other, I think because the devs worried that the player would just wait for a war between AI nations and then opportunistically pounce on the loser to beat them up further.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Hello my friends, I would like to submit for your approval my candidacy for Bureau of Ordinance Administrator.

Among my qualifications are:
  • Excellent organizational skills
  • Experience writing and maintaining rulesets
  • Substantial powers of pedantry
  • A perverse fondness for spreadsheets
  • A longstanding jovially-adversarial relationship with Mr. Hunter
  • Stick-toitiveness
  • A mild-mannered even-tempered stubborn streak a mile wide
  • Almost no knowledge or understanding of the history of navies, naval aviation, or military stuff in general, having absorbed no more than the most superficial facts about WWII floaty/flying pew-pew machines from reading a decade of Grey Hunter LPs
  • A willingness and capability to mail Grey Hunter punitive gifts if he fails to strictly adhere to both the intent and exact wording of my convoluted rules

I urge you to vote for Leperfish for BOA. BOA: bureaucracy is our passion. :geno:

Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 04:49 on May 18, 2019

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.

Pirate Radar posted:

In RtW2, if you’re allied with someone and go to war, their ships can appear in battles to assist you (same in reverse if you’re at war with two countries at once). But no, AI nations still don’t go to war with each other, I think because the devs worried that the player would just wait for a war between AI nations and then opportunistically pounce on the loser to beat them up further.

the answer is laziness

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

Gamerofthegame posted:

the answer is laziness

Worth remembering that most of the development work is done by one guy in his spare time

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!
I'd venture to say all.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

Pirate Radar posted:

Are we voting on countries here or at the link Grey posted?

In the link!



Its kinda down to Japan, Russia or the USA atm, but its still close. I could set up a runoff vote for those three, with possibly Italy and Britain as they are the next closest - what do you think?

Comstar posted:

Also Also Also Also HOW did GH get a Review copy? High Praise for him indeed.

I asked, and linked all the LP's I've done on his games - Steam and Iron, RTW in both text and video form.
Apparently being cheeky works!

Grey Hunter fucked around with this message at 05:27 on May 18, 2019

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade
A runoff would make sense, but limit it to 2 or 3 options or you might end up with a situation where you'd want to run a runoff for the runoff.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Runoff between the top 3 sounds like a good idea imo

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Not to jump the gun, but in preparation for the possibility that I may be elected to command the bureau of ordnance, I have begun reviewing reference documentation.

I've started with US Navy Bureau of Ordnance in World War II, Buford Rowland [and] William B. Boyd (full text available here), and in addition, Navy ordnance activities. World war, 1917-1918, Ralph Earle et. al., (full text available here)

I've found numerous official records and texts on the Royal Navy Ordnance Department, but unlike the American records, only the catalogue and not the full texts are online. I am delighted to spend however much time will be required navigating the bureaucratic red tape necessary for me to gain access to such obviously helpful documents as Records of Naval Ordnance Departments and Establishments, 1736-1974, catalogued here, and Admiralty: Department of the Director of Naval Construction: Directors' Papers (ADM229), various authors 1893-1957 (catalogued here).

In the meantime, I will begin preparing some preliminary drafts of BuORD requisition and regulation forms, which I anticipate will become increasingly vital as the game gets going.

I do worry that if we vote to be Russia or Japan or something, I'll have difficulty with the necessary translations of original naval ordinance records from their respective countries, but I'll do what I can to manage.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
https://forms.gle/RMeP5vFkkiVWYAPr9

RUNOFF!



After a corrupt but uneventful video, I'm back, but this time, my battle cruisers meet four French Battleships defending a large troop convoy!


The game is now also on sale!

Grey Hunter fucked around with this message at 06:06 on May 18, 2019

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

If you're not already you should check out the grog thread for lots of lol'ing about what a disaster this games launch has been.

wedgekree
Feb 20, 2013

Saros posted:

If you're not already you should check out the grog thread for lots of lol'ing about what a disaster this games launch has been.

Link to the grog thread?

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Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

wedgekree posted:

Link to the grog thread?

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3887173

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