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Venomous posted:so what I'm taking away from this thread is that neither the working class nor anyone with standards in general has any reason to vote for Biden At least cspam will get what it wants (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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How are u posted:They genuinely do not care. You are an acceptable loss in their eyes. Gotta crack a few eggs to achieve True Socialism, so be it. And if somehow that inexplicably doesn't get achieved as a result, it would have been just as bad anyway.
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Mar 31, 2020 20:51
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Mar 31, 2020 21:03
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A4R8 posted:I can’t wait for liberals to tell me why voting for a communist woman over Jim Crow Rapin’ Joe makes me a privileged sexist. Who?
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Mar 31, 2020 21:11
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Jewel Repetition posted:You're so, so close to getting it, friend. It's not about spite, although that is a great bonus. It's about demolishing the idea that someone like Biden is electable, which is boomer's primary reason for voting for him. Plus he's going to lose anyway, so it's really just giving him a more embarrassing margin. Except, someone like Biden is electable. We know this to be true, since Trump is in office. He was elected.
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Mar 31, 2020 22:38
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I wonder how things would have ended up with Jeb!.
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Mar 31, 2020 22:54
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No really, who is the "communist woman" running for president
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Apr 1, 2020 00:59
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Jewel Repetition posted:Gloria La Riva Thanks I'll look into who that is
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Apr 1, 2020 03:00
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How are u posted:A 3rd party that ensures that neither Leftists, Progressives, or lovely centrist Dems ever hold power is, in fact, not better than changing the Democratic party from within. I'm starting to think that's the goal
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Apr 4, 2020 15:37
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:this is the only possible reason to not want to vote for a rapist quote:I'm starting to think that's the conclusion you set out to reach and are ignoring any other possible goals, like not voting for a racist gropey walking corpse. quote:Imagine saying this poo poo with a straight face in defense of a party establishment that's literally a controlled opposition lmao forever. I'm saying nothing in Biden's defense, he is a monster, but you're preparing to entrench the other rapist's party indefinitely. Do you hope they'll eventually break and usher in full communism after achieving total control again? Do you suppose the fully conservative judicial system they'll give us will do it? I doubt it. There is no good answer here but there is a wrong answer, I think. quote:The only actual political belief Joe Biden has ever had is that you have to give the GOP everything they want, so the only platform he'd possibly even try to enact is Trump's. What do you think throwing the election will do?
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Apr 4, 2020 18:46
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Nonsense posted:Voting 3rd party probably isn't the answer, but they only need one more Trump term and McConnell's continued existence to continue the judicial rush unabated. This is wholly correct; my concern is about what those chudges do with four more years of entrenchment, at least one more seat on the supreme court, and no real opposition to stop them. I admit I got too hot in the thread before but in our current (bad) system splitting in half or spite-voting the bigly boy isn't going to teach the Democrats a lesson more than it's going to empower the Republicans even more, longer, and suppress what we could use to stop it. Unfortunately for all of us, the two major nominees (unless we get lucky and someone gets some sense and pulls Joe) are rapists; we can then assume one way or another we are supporting one, either through action or inaction.
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Apr 4, 2020 18:57
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Phone posted:It's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, it's always 4 more years, and of course... it's always 4 more years. What do you expect to happen if you get a sizable third party or give up and vote Trump? You won't gain the presidency, surely (well, you will if you give up and join them). What will the winners do? What will you? RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Apr 4, 2020 |
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Apr 4, 2020 21:08
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Phone posted:It's a bridge we'll cross when we get there. If the expectation is that we have to trust that Joe Biden is actually playing 9th dimensional tic-tac-toe and that he's actually running on the most progressive platform the democratic party has ever had, it'd be nice for once for the favor to be returned. Unfortunately, we're already here. You don't have to believe that Joe Biden is the Purest Progressive, he isn't, but if you think another 4, 8, 12 years of Republicans will open the way to your opportunity, I'm afraid have to disagree.
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Apr 4, 2020 23:40
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Condiv posted:what if we believe he's a rapist republican that would gladly have us die of the coronavirus if it meant he won the primary? Do you think keeping the Republicans in power will? Do you think allowing them to entrench even further will? By all means then.
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Apr 5, 2020 00:06
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Understanding that then, why do you think tossing the election to Super Street Hitler 3 Tournament Election would be any better? I don't see any way it is. Condiv posted:it's amazing that dems have slid so far rightward that things like rape and sacrificing your constituents to coronavirus for electoral gains just makes a candidate not "the Purest Progressive" as opposed to a loving republican ghoul Who is the other party who will win if not that? What do you think your actions will lead to?
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Apr 5, 2020 00:09
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Argas posted:"Things are bad enough already, you'll never change things if you don't hold your nose and vote blue no matter what" sure is a take. You'll never change things if you surrender to the right, no, I don't think you will. I think that's effectively what trying to run a third party right now will lead to.
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Apr 5, 2020 00:11
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quote:are you having issues tracking? where does super street hitler 3 tournament election (???????????????) come into it? I don't know what the name of another Street Fighter would be to follow on from Super Mega Hitler Ultra Championship Fighting Edition, sorry I hosed it up. I was referring to a sequel for his next four years.  Unoriginal Name posted:Don't surrender to the right! I'm saying that you're ultimately supporting a rapist either way, either through action or inaction, since one's already in power. No matter what we do, a rapist will be in or remain in power, through our actions. quote:Voting blue no matter who is surrendering that right, as shown by the fact that one can't even hold basic positions like "rapists shouldn't be leaders" or "slaveholders shouldn't be leaders" and do it. They shouldn't be, but they are. I do not think ceding the election to one will do a lot to change that. I do think we can do a little something about it if we do not. No, I don't think this is a good outcome, but I think it's a better outcome.
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Apr 5, 2020 00:22
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Why do you think another four years of the fascist right would?
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Apr 5, 2020 00:29
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Saying that choosing not to vote for a rapist is supporting a rapist is not the way it loving ways. Not supporting biden doesn't mean you tacitly support trump. In effect, the choice is one rapist, another rapist already in power, or not voting, supporting the status quo of a rapist in power. I see no realistic way around this unless a third party led by a non-rapist stands a chance, which right now doesn't seem to be true. Voting for one now leads to effectively supporting keeping the other rapist in power. It will not remove him if you do so.
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Apr 5, 2020 00:35
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Condiv posted:answer the question RBA. i've told you why I think it's important to not vote for the democrats and not encourage their rightward slide into a loving death cult. now tell me why you think it's a good idea to endorse that behavior. tell me why you think it's ok to signal to the party that you'll vote for rapists and murderers as long as they have a D next to their name? cause that's how they'll interpret your vote. not as a begrudging "i only did this to fight trump please move left dems!!" but that you were ok with everything biden has done and is doing. The answer is no, I do not think Both Sides Are As Bad As The Other. I do not think Biden is good. This should be clear from saying so already. I do think putting more Democrats into office will help more people and give us a greater chance to change things than Republicans. So instead, are you are ok with everything Trump has done and is doing? Are you ok with the death cult in power staying in power? Do you think you will get the opportunity to change anything about that with another four years of allowing them to remain in charge? Are you sure? Obviously we won't change each others minds, so I hope if you get the world you push for you get that chance. quote:the trolley problem understander has logged on lol RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Apr 5, 2020 |
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Apr 5, 2020 00:40
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Phone posted:So for the record, you don't think that the fascist enablers are as bad as the fascists who they enable? If that's the way you want to frame it.
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Apr 5, 2020 00:47
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I don't think any of this is fine. Condiv posted:I didn’t say they were the same rba. I asked why you are fine with enabling rape and murder. Trump is a rapist and murderer, the same as Biden. Why do you think your actions will not support him further? E: I think it's important that one is better or will lead to a better outcome or room to act than the other as well, unless we're giving up in November one way or the other. I don't plan to though RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Apr 5, 2020 |
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Apr 5, 2020 00:57
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I don't think calling him a rapist is downplaying that he is a rapist, sorry. We must disagree there. If you think Trump or voting third party will lead to a better outcome then again, by all means. I doubt it though. Trabisnikof posted:So you think that all Americans will enable a rapist this November and it is literally impossible not to do so? The ones who can vote at least, thanks to our system. Unless one wins by a larger amount than third party voters, I guess I didn't consider that. RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Apr 5, 2020 |
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Apr 5, 2020 01:14
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Argas posted:"Everything is bad, nothing can be done, now vote for the rapist." Nailed it
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Apr 5, 2020 01:28
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Condiv posted:You called him progressive. Rape and murder are not progressive policy rba I was being a little sarcastic, I'm sorry I confused you. I do not consider him a progressive, much less the Purest one. I hope you get what you want.
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Apr 5, 2020 01:30
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How are u posted:Literally the only people who call 'em The Democrat Party are FOX News and right-wing fuckers. Like, it's a thing, a real thing. The fact that y'all are using that language is actually pretty telling. The mask fell a while ago
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joepinetree posted:I listened to every PSA from back when they were keeping it 1600 to about early 2018. What number did they settle on?
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