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How are u posted:Considering the state of the polling it seems that, as of now, a landslide of people are ready to crawl across broken glass to vote for Joe to defeat Trump. Considering that, I think it's just fine if the small minority who can't bring themselves to vote for Joe exercise their vote in a different way. I'm gonna presume that this is directed at the people who have been provably willing to canvass and phonebank like hell, i.e. fired-up socialists and other leftists, and not at Biden's supporters, who seem content to just lap up polling data that shows they'll win without needing to do something so gauche as actually do some work.
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Juul-Whip posted:"Tribal" is dogwhistle for "my ideological opponents are irrational and ganging up on me and acting like a bunch of [racial expletive]s!" "Markers of tribal loyalty" is the new "virtue signalling" except it's also accusing people of not being civilised and rational enough
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Jul 16, 2020 23:09
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How are u posted:Yeah, there's absolutely nothing weird or controversial about that very generic statement. If Biden were in charge he wouldn't be deploying jackbooted DHS thugs to smash peaceful protesters in the first place. Yeah, Biden's jackbooted thugs would probably be from an entirely different alphabet soup agency Seriously, what do you think would be happening re: the protests under Biden? Do you think they'll be allowed to continue? They're disruptive to the economy and Biden has promised his wealthiest donors that nothing will change. What do you genuinely think that Biden's response will be when the protests continue under his watch?
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Jul 29, 2020 23:20
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VitalSigns posted:remember when BLM protested a Hillary event and got hauled off by private security, and the liberal reaction was scorn for BLM for protesting the good guys instead of the Republicans (nevermind that the murders that inspired the formation of BLM happened under a Democratic administration in Democratic cities and mostly Democratic-run states). Biden rep: All legitimate protestors have gone home already, those that remain are illegitimate and will be black bagged and sent to the newly opened awareness camps in unmarked vans, no I will not define any of those terms
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Jul 29, 2020 23:59
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I'm sure that in a spirit of robust, good-faith debate How are u will absolutely be coming back to this thread to answer those questions, and won't wait until they think we've forgotten them before coming in to drop another spicy take.
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Jul 31, 2020 01:39
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SlothfulCobra posted:On top of that, there's the literal attack forces being sent out across the country, which you have to do a lot of false equivalency to equate to much of anything Biden's done. This one's not about what he's done but about what he will do, which you can project forward from how he treats people who disagree with him. And from how protests were handled under Obama.
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Aug 1, 2020 23:14
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Flying-PCP posted:In the worst case, I'd rather have a little time before full open fascism takes hold to figure out a possible course of action, than have no time. I'd like to know what you think Biden will actively do to stop the rise of full open fascism. This isn't a Fisher King situation where you put the right person in power and the world becomes whole again, change means work and work means changes and Biden has already been openly against changes. Is Biden pledging to stop building the big stupid metal border wall that everyone hates, for example? Fascism, like slavery, is something that you are either actively against, or you are for, even if that support is passive neutrality.
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Aug 2, 2020 03:17
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Flying-PCP posted:it's sure as hell not going to be The Squad First off, don't use their celebrity name when you're discussing them as a wing of the party, that's for people who don't actually engage in politics beyond Twitter ownage. Second off, what are the actual politics of "the squad" in your view? Do you think they're an actual faction of the party? How much influence do you think that set of views has?
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Aug 2, 2020 05:59
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Aug 2, 2020 06:18
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Flying-PCP posted:Somfin is right that asking people here to explain stuff to me is dumb. That's not what I said at all. If you are genuinely curious, ask! Just don't speak from a position of ignorance and expect to get away with it.
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Aug 3, 2020 07:19
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Ytlaya posted:The Politics Show is a fun show that they can not only watch, but even participate in (like American Idol or something - the audience gets to vote!). But it's just not as fun if there's no chance of a good ending, and you don't get to feel good about participating if everyone involved is bad. So they cling to the "we'll take the Biden administration and use it to do good things, somehow!" narrative, because that's a lot more palatable to them. I feel like this is close to it- they like to watch pro wrestling, cheer for the face and boo at the heel, and don't like being informed that both wrestlers are actors acting and that, off-stage, they both actually support basically the same things with their fairly measly paychecks and their matches are dictated, controlled and mediated by people who have far, far more money than either of the wrestlers. Don't talk about that poo poo, obviously Joe Biden likes the things I like and wants the things I want! Look, he's chokeslamming Trump, that means he's a good guy, because Trump is a bad guy! Boo Trump! Yay Biden!
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