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FairGame
Jul 24, 2001

Der Kommander

CommissarMega posted:

I actually do have a question, and it's baseball-related too! If a player has a high WAR, would there be a reason to replace him in a high-level game that isn't injury-related? "Cos the writeup in the last update seemed to indicate that it could happen. If this sounds dumb, my apologies; I know nothing about baseball, sorry.

In a high level game? Not really, no. Play your best players. But there’s lots of reasons why you might replace a player who is high WAR. All justifiable, some ethically abhorrent.

1.) Your player is a defensive butcher and you’re winning by like one run in the final inning. Might make sense to replace your great hitter who can’t field with someone who can’t hit but is a good fielder. After all, if your team prevents the opposition from scoring this inning, the game ends, and you’re never exposed to the fact you swapped out your great hitter. One of the MANY managerial blunders of the 2011 Texas Rangers cost them the World Series, for example. Their idiot manager left a defensive butcher in right field with a 7-5 lead in the 9th inning of the clinching game. Sure enough, a St. Louis Cardinals batter hit a catchable ball to right field, it wasn’t caught, and the Cardinals went on to win the game and the series.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UEEOZpdp9bo

2.) It’s an important game, but your win expectancy is already sky high, and you don’t like to save some wear and tear on your superstar. If you’re up 10-0 in the 7th or something, your team wins that game 99.9 percent of the time. Baseball is a 162 game season played in the summer. Players get worn down, and if you can steal a bit of extra rest, it marginally makes your team worse for the remainder of that game, but it’s presumably offset by having your star fresh for subsequent games.

3.) Your star is a pitcher, and you need offense. With extremely rare exception, pitchers are terrible hitters, and they have to bat in the National League (the American League has a different ruleset concerning pitchers hitting). If the score is, say, 3-3 in the 7th and you have a couple men on base, two out, and your pitcher batting, you have a higher probability of winning that game if you pinch hit. This removes the pitcher from the game, but lets you immediately substitute in a batter from your bench reserves. (In turn, that batter gets replaced the next inning since hitters are just as bad at pitching as pitchers are at hitting. This is one of the reasons relief pitchers like Mo exist.)

4.) The grossest one: you are trying to steal labor. Baseball players have a REALLY lovely labor agreement with ownership, where they don’t reach their full market value until they’ve played X amount of time in MLB. Thanks to the rise of analytics, it’s never been more clear that the best player should are also very young and tend not to have that level of service time. Thus, if you’re a front office, you are incentivized to bury your best players in the minors until such time that your event able to squeeze out an additional year of labor without the player hitting free agency. It’s evil and disgusting, and also endemic. This article is about the Cubs but literally EVERY team does it.

http://bitterempire.com/kris-bryant-free-agency-baseball-labor-abuse-problem/

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FairGame
Jul 24, 2001

Der Kommander

Moose eventually got elected to the hall of fame, fwiw

FairGame
Jul 24, 2001

Der Kommander

It’s such an incredible game, and I can’t imagine an LP of it being done better. Had a great time, thanks!

And gyroball, for the millionth time, amazing work.

FairGame
Jul 24, 2001

Der Kommander

CommissarMega posted:

So what happened? Is no. 29 out? Did his run not count?

EDIT: And is the move the catcher pulled still legal? :allears:

Yes, he's out. There was never a run to count because he's on second base.

And yes, it's legal but you only see it once every couple of years. Not sure if it's because most baseball players won't fall for it, or if it's one of those "unwritten rules" that you don't use schoolyard tricks to get people out. Baseball's VERY stupid with the latter.

Here's the whole thing if you want.

https://www.mlb.com/cut4/blue-jays-ryan-goins-pulls-off-hidden-ball-trick-on-todd-frazier/c-255602902

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