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Gathering herbs on the steppe isn't the huge deal really, it's trekking down to the old village and hoovering up all the big plots there. It takes all night but you get a ton and if you're mainlining coffee and lemons you barely need a nap. Edit: it's been a while but I remember you can't do it for the first few days because itd really break things.
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I think I made the mistake of prioritising looting houses and stuff at night so I rarely went to the steppe. It's a much more interesting experience though whereas the steppe is pretty boring
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Dec 3, 2021 10:58
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:I think I made the mistake of prioritising looting houses and stuff at night so I rarely went to the steppe. It's a much more interesting experience though whereas the steppe is pretty boring robbing houses and especially killing muggers (both for their loot and their organs) is the best way to make money early on
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Dec 3, 2021 22:12
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Shear Modulus posted:robbing houses and especially killing muggers (both for their loot and their organs) is the best way to make money early on I always found the extra way to the organ shop to be too much of a hassle.
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Dec 3, 2021 22:23
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I think one of the strengths of the game is that there are a lot of different options you can take and there's not really a "correct" way to play. Like in my playthrough I didn't really do much herb gathering OR visit the organ shop at all (this is not a "I was so good I didn't need them" brag, I did terribly) and still managed to make it through the game. They probably would have helped but I always felt like I had my hands full with something else and just couldn't justify going out of my way solely to make money.
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Dec 3, 2021 23:44
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doing a replay of 2 and i can't believe my eyes seeing that a full loaf of bread goes for 300 rubles day 1
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Dec 4, 2021 01:44
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The Cheshire Cat posted:I think one of the strengths of the game is that there are a lot of different options you can take and there's not really a "correct" way to play. Like in my playthrough I didn't really do much herb gathering OR visit the organ shop at all (this is not a "I was so good I didn't need them" brag, I did terribly) and still managed to make it through the game. They probably would have helped but I always felt like I had my hands full with something else and just couldn't justify going out of my way solely to make money. It was a very good decision to make a death of the bound/adherents not a gamekiller. I did great up until a certain point off sheer luck then entered a doom spiral that killed a third of them and I was trying desperately to salvage anything and keep the ones I cared about the most alive. It was great. If it was how it was in P1 I would have just aborted once that piece of poo poo Notkin managed to lose to the plague on round three that little gently caress. It also added something to Grace's ending that one of the Stamatens and one of the Saburovs were gone. "Oh, right."
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Dec 4, 2021 03:05
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emanresu tnuocca posted:I'll be the one to pop-in saying that the intended P2 experience has the player miserable and desperate running around trying to feed Artemy, not having any clue what's going on and failing quests left and right, this experience is only really possible if you approach the game mechanics blindly and just roll with the punches, otherwise it's very easy to 'optimally play' the first 2-3 days and reach the point where you're basically swimming in cash and food and start accumulating the-only-resource-that-matters very early on. I was reading back a bit to compile some tricks, tips, suggestions, etc. and read over this which caused me to reflect a little on the intentions of the developers. I'd agree that they want you to start out blind and clueless, desperately running from one lose-lose situation to the next. However, I do think there's meant to be a progression such that subsequent playthroughs or later days have different lessons or rewards. I think the fellow traveler's deal is an interesting thing to look at. It's a means of allowing a player who is really struggling with the challenges to get through their first run, obviously at a considerable cost. What's neat is that it gives the player the opportunity to reflect on their choice and how they view games when it comes to challenges they experience. The Cheshire Cat posted:I think one of the strengths of the game is that there are a lot of different options you can take and there's not really a "correct" way to play. Like in my playthrough I didn't really do much herb gathering OR visit the organ shop at all (this is not a "I was so good I didn't need them" brag, I did terribly) and still managed to make it through the game. They probably would have helped but I always felt like I had my hands full with something else and just couldn't justify going out of my way solely to make money. Agreed, that is definitely one of the things I love about the game. They do a great job of making it feel like there's too much to do, that decisions I make about how I spend my time and resources are impactful. It's sortof funny that my other favourite game, Disco Elysium, takes pretty much the opposite approach when it comes to time as a resource or method of motivation but still does an incredible job of making me feel like everything I do is meaningful.
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Dec 4, 2021 03:29
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The fun thing about the Deal is that there's a lot in the game that doesn't actually amount to anything that people fret about, like Clara cursing you, but it's still extremely obvious that it's a terrible idea to take it. It's a little cruel how it actually plays out, but it's also fun anyway.
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Dec 4, 2021 03:52
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Speaking of looting, I don't play many RPGs but what blew my mind is how logical the containers were. A wardrobe would have more slots than a compartment above a sink, and their UI representation would visually match their appearance in the world.
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I broke into houses left and right to stab freaks to death and often times it wound up with me just having more plague and less food, so I guess their intentions worked out. The best moment I had early on was when I saw a cop beat a looter to death and I walked up to cut his heart out to sell it to the organ donor and the cop instantly blew my brains out when I clicked on the surgery button. There's nothing like Pathologic
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In Training posted:I broke into houses left and right to stab freaks to death and often times it wound up with me just having more plague and less food, so I guess their intentions worked out. The best moment I had early on was when I saw a cop beat a looter to death and I walked up to cut his heart out to sell it to the organ donor and the cop instantly blew my brains out when I clicked on the surgery button. There's nothing like Pathologic Trust me I'm a doctor
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Dec 4, 2021 10:34
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I didn't know there was a whole other secret second cemetery in the Marble Nest. I was wandering the steppe and stumbled upon it. Graves in the middle of nowhere, and the Graveman. Very eerie. also the easiest way to loot houses for fun and profit is 1) Don't bother with infected houses, only burned district houses 2) Always hold down the sneak button 3) When going through the rooms, open a door, look inside, if there's a bandit shut the door, they won't see you. Sometimes bandits will spawn right behind you but if you keep that sneak button on you can always get past them.
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genericnick posted:Trust me I'm a doctor  Bolingbroke posted:I didn't know there was a whole other secret second cemetery in the Marble Nest. I was wandering the steppe and stumbled upon it. Graves in the middle of nowhere, and the Graveman. Very eerie. Oh dang I didn't either, neat
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Know by Heart just released with a 15% launch discount and virtually zero fanfare. Buy the drat game, I want more Pathologic 2.
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treat posted:Know by Heart just released with a 15% launch discount and virtually zero fanfare. Buy the drat game, I want more Pathologic 2. They've released a few trailers but it's been a quiet launch
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Feb 10, 2022 17:43
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treat posted:Know by Heart just released with a 15% launch discount and virtually zero fanfare. Buy the drat game, I want more Pathologic 2. Done
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This is a very melancholic feeling game so far e: And that feeling went out the window with the Savage Garden quote lmao RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Feb 10, 2022 |
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Feb 10, 2022 18:40
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Do post initial impressions, I am curious but standing on the fence.
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Feb 10, 2022 19:51
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ZearothK posted:Do post initial impressions, I am curious but standing on the fence. It's almost a point and click, it's very relaxed (for now). First couple hours are mostly about a man's childhood friend (that he wanted to be more) coming back to town and them wandering and reminiscing. Also the guy's drunk neighbor got arrested and forgot he had kids, so that's probably going somewhere
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I played about an hour during lunch. I'm enjoying it to a reasonable extent. So far it feels sort of like a whole game of the nostalgia for being a gang of kids in russian town thing artemiy/lara/griff/rubin have going on in pathologic. The question for me so far is if it has something to say about nostalgia besides 'I sure do feel nostalgic'
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Just finished it, took about 6 hours but I spent a lot of time looking around. From the achievements it looks like I still missed quite a bit. I could see playing it again at some point. It's going to take some time to absorb, but I think it might have been genius. I don't want to say anything spoilery for later in the game this early, but I underestimated IPL going in which you would think I would know not to do at this point. It has a pretty slow start that I was iffy on but it's justified, and once it gets rolling I think it will connect for most people who like their stuff for vibe/style/writing reasons, though they are all played in a bit more of a minor key. Obviously this is simpler than their other games mechanically but it was also quite polished by IPL standards (I had one softlock and the signposting of where to go next is a bit iffy sometimes, but that's about it). I will say if you're not up for something pretty emotionally heavy, that would be a good reason to hold off but maybe that's implicit for an IPL game
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Feb 11, 2022 05:50
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Bought the thing so they can eat for another year.
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Wew! Took me a long time to get around to it but that ... was simply incredible. This thread lead me to pathologic 2, so thank you everyone! So... we probably aren't getting the bachelor and changeling expansions, right?
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BBQ Dave posted:Wew! Took me a long time to get around to it but that ... was simply incredible. This thread lead me to pathologic 2, so thank you everyone! https://twitter.com/IcePickLodge/status/1393263746395648001
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I want to believe but I'm pretty skeptical. Last I heard the idea was that they were going to hire/rehire people to restart P2 development using the proceeds from making a few smaller games, one of which just came out to zero fanfare and sold approximately ten copies
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No Mods No Masters posted:I want to believe but I'm pretty skeptical. Last I heard the idea was that they were going to hire/rehire people to restart P2 development using the proceeds from making a few smaller games, one of which just came out to zero fanfare and sold approximately ten copies So back to the norm for IPL  It's really good though pick it up if you haven't. Talked about it a bit in the Steam thread but it's very clever how it goes at some themes from Pathologic but from the exact opposite direction, which I didn't really expect.
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Yeah as the game settles in my mind I think I was too wishy washy in my little review upthread, know by heart is great. *LARGE SPOILERS FOR THE BACK HALF* I really want to know how much of the game was conceived before the pandemic and how much they incorporated it during development, obviously they have some prior experience with that material but god drat accidentally or not, it was such a mood and really felt like the first game I've played to absorb and reckon with the whole nightmare
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No Mods No Masters posted:Yeah as the game settles in my mind I think I was too wishy washy in my little review upthread, know by heart is great. *LARGE SPOILERS FOR THE BACK HALF* I really want to know how much of the game was conceived before the pandemic and how much they incorporated it during development, obviously they have some prior experience with that material but god drat accidentally or not, it was such a mood and really felt like the first game I've played to absorb and reckon with the whole nightmare I feel like washing your hands pointlessly was definitely a mid-pandemic addition lmao
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Honestly, I wish they'd just do another kickstarter for the Bachelor/Changeling routes (or maybe a different crowdfunding platform given KS has gotten into NFT poo poo recently but you know what I mean). I feel like there are no die hard Pathologic fans out there who would balk at the chance to throw more money at IPL, and frankly, Pathologic 2, as it is right now, is already a complete game. It is so much more than simply 1/3rd of the story and even if the Bachelor and Changeling parts never get finished, it would still be an incredible game.
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got know by heart, excited to be sad
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Verviticus posted:got know by heart, excited to be sad heckin same. there are too many video games to play and it will probably be a while before i get to the sadness but i know it's coming
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I just finished Know By Heart, and yeah, it's really good. It's one of those things where it starts off seeming like it's about one thing, but then becomes about another thing, while also still somehow being about that first thing. It's also a thing where I feel like a lot of the themes it tackles are things that bigger games have attempted to do, but Know By Heart really handles them a lot more successfully.
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No Mods No Masters posted:I want to believe but I'm pretty skeptical. Last I heard the idea was that they were going to hire/rehire people to restart P2 development using the proceeds from making a few smaller games, one of which just came out to zero fanfare and sold approximately ten copies But then again, maybe everything is going smoothly and they just delayed any kind of announcement until their other games release.
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https://twitter.com/IcePickLodge/status/1498269141404463107
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I imagine we won't be getting those Bachelor and Changeling chapters anytime soon now
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ZearothK posted:I imagine we won't be getting those Bachelor and Changeling chapters anytime soon now That was my immediate thought too, followed by “oh poo poo, I hope they get out of this alive.”
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dthaATQh2YGZx2yYiIHDN412jS5iocMW7aqPfUPjYu8/edit
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honestly i'm satisfied just knowing they're still around at all given the present circumstances
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Yeah, though that idea for the Bachelor is extremely cool
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