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Mel Mudkiper posted:Every once and awhile I deep dive into sovereign citizens getting owned compilations I also love the ones where they try to explain that literally every american has like 1 billion dollars in a super secret mega ultra double hidden bank account and all you have to do is write your name in all caps as well your date of birth and these magic words and you can pay your bills with your super secret billion dollar account. Yes I know, I know, Mister Metokur but this video of his is by far the best overview of this poo poo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVtviNDrDS8 The dude with the obsession with water is rad.
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There is one of this guy who ends up getting his window smashed on his rented truck and arrested at the border for not showing his license even though he had it and wasn't doing anything illegal Like, he was so dug in he went to prison rather than pull out his ID
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May 24, 2019 14:49
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OldTennisCourt posted:It's an offshoot I'd argue but my lord do I loving love sovereign citizens. It's the perfect blend of absolute smugness and completely loving idiocy. It will never ever not be hysterical to me that these loving numbskulls bring up the Articles of Confederation as this absolute defense of their rights when that poo poo hasn't been in use for literally like 200 years. Watching these people crazy themselves into an arrest, and then crazy a court apearence into prison is highly amusing.
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May 24, 2019 15:01
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Imagine being so loving bored as a human being that you need to invent insane conspiracies and arguments in order to get arrested. It's like those dudes who start hour long battles with the dude in Wal Mart who checks your receipt because WOW YOU'RE ACCUSING ME OF THIEVERY HOW loving DARE YOU
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May 24, 2019 15:02
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OldTennisCourt posted:Imagine being so loving bored as a human being that you need to invent insane conspiracies and arguments in order to get arrested. It's like those dudes who start hour long battles with the dude in Wal Mart who checks your receipt because WOW YOU'RE ACCUSING ME OF THIEVERY HOW loving DARE YOU You have to wonder what goes through the cops head when it all starts.
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May 24, 2019 15:05
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https://youtu.be/VnSd-E3Hb3Y I love this vid because the judge did research and actually legaleses the dude back Like, the Sov cit ends up getting confused by his own words being used back on him
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May 24, 2019 15:09
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Mel Mudkiper posted:https://youtu.be/VnSd-E3Hb3Y A judge actually wrote a book specifically for teaching other judges how to shut down sovcit bullshit in their courtrooms.
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May 24, 2019 15:37
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Like, what is it about a person that makes them dig in so hard and not only dig in but believe the vast majority of people not believing them is irrelevant he asks a bunch of Marxists
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May 24, 2019 16:20
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Wheeee posted:he asks a bunch of Marxists lol fair point
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May 24, 2019 16:24
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megalodong posted:bring back the good old non-(or at least less so)-racist conspiracies like area 51, aliens, super secret aircraft and all that good stuff i used to work 3rd shift doing security work, which was a lot of driving around and smoking cigarettes and trying to stay awake. my boss insisted on listening to am coast to coast every night. i certainly miss the art bell-style conspiracy theory. my step dad is certainly a conspiracy theorist, but i dont know where he is at on his journey into madness, but he did let me know where the precious metal is hidden, should anything happen to my mom and him 
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May 24, 2019 16:25
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What always gets me about conspiracy theorists is that they seem to believe everything that is a conspiracy even when its contradictory Like, you never seen one go "Aliens built the pyramids but that ghost and bigfoot stuff is bullshit"
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May 24, 2019 16:29
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Mel Mudkiper posted:What always gets me about conspiracy theorists is that they seem to believe everything that is a conspiracy even when its contradictory Actually you do! Political Cartoon favorite and mega insane person Dees believes every loving insane government conspiracy under the sun but has made multiple cartoons about how people who think Angels are real are stupid rear end in a top hat moron sheep.
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May 24, 2019 16:35
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Mel Mudkiper posted:https://youtu.be/VnSd-E3Hb3Y Another fave is this guy talking about how he can't figure out how to properly cast a spell called "Accepted for Value" to turn his electric bill in to free money https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFOe386YB0A I really like this one because he complains that nobody will explain to him how to make it work without him pay them, but he also insists it will work when people tell him it's a complete scam. I find gang stalking more fascinating but it also gets sad when you realize it's the product of severe mental illness. Sovereign citizens are a lot more fun because it's just persistent self owns.
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May 24, 2019 16:58
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Popoi posted:I find gang stalking more fascinating but it also gets sad when you realize it's the product of severe mental illness. Sovereign citizens are a lot more fun because it's just persistent self owns. I follow this crazy dude who does terrible weightlifting who believes he is blessed by god to be the strongest man on the planet and also believes he is being gang-stalked by the CIA to make him gay Every video is a masterpiece https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiFkt-RrX_k
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May 24, 2019 17:14
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lol in what aim? so he doesn't have a kid with a super strong woman and that kid becomes swoll jesus like that one korean statue and take down all world governments? cuz I'd watch that movie
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May 24, 2019 17:36
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Eat This Glob posted:i certainly miss the art bell-style conspiracy theory. Cool story, every time this style of conspiracy theorist says "reptilians" they mean "jews."
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May 24, 2019 17:37
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i heard once that some white nationalist organization had David Icke as a speaker because they thought he was talking about (((reptilians))) but actually no he was sincere about reptilians i hope its true because i find it amusing
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May 24, 2019 17:50
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something about canadian legal scholars' engagement of sovereigns rubs me the wrong way. There's a lot of idle bemusement, with neither condemnation nor any deep inquiry into causes. It's become a low-effort way to get an article published. though it's an improvement on the SPLC's approach, which was counter-reactionary panic ("three million anti-government extremists!!")
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May 24, 2019 17:51
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LonsomeSon posted:Cool story, every time this style of conspiracy theorist says "reptilians" they mean "jews." seriously? gross. I thought they literally meant reptiles. Was it dees who drew obama as some sort of reptilian? I thought I saw that at least once
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May 24, 2019 17:53
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Eat This Glob posted:seriously? gross. I thought they literally meant reptiles. Was it dees who drew obama as some sort of reptilian? I thought I saw that at least once Some do, but for most it's code for Jews. And in a few incredible instances (likely including Dees here), it's both!
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May 24, 2019 17:56
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here's a take: sovereigns understand history better than they are given credit for, and in many cases better than the legal experts who denounce them 
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May 24, 2019 17:57
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i find myself agreeing with dees' less racist works a lot these days. dude's figuratively correct about a lot of things he considers literal truths due to untreated schizophrenia.
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May 24, 2019 17:58
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paging kyoon to this thread
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:i find myself agreeing with dees' less racist works a lot these days. dude's figuratively correct about a lot of things he considers literal truths due to schizophrenia. All right I'll bite, such as?
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May 24, 2019 17:58
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Wanna get myself Dees art collections and just leave them on the coffee table for company to see.Dr. Killjoy posted:The Mandela Effect is pretty neat because psychologically it works on people because of how fragile and susceptible to manipulation our memory really is. Just suggest something totally contrary, anything really: show a group of people a (photoshopped) period appropriate photograph of Bugs Bunny at Disneyland and half of them will start recalling seeing him their as kids, or suggest they could have been molested (or abducted by aliens). Heck the fact that there are baby boomers who’ve been seeing long remaining contrails their entire lives but now believe that they only started showing up in the 90s is perhaps one the better illustrations on the magnitude of this phenomenon.
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May 24, 2019 17:59
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Eat This Glob posted:seriously? gross. I thought they literally meant reptiles. Was it dees who drew obama as some sort of reptilian? I thought I saw that at least once
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Captain_Maclaine posted:All right I'll bite, such as? mostly when he portrays the wealthy and powerful as demonic fiends who are killing us all. it's a very obvious point, sure, but his interpretations of it are very striking.
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May 24, 2019 18:07
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LonsomeSon posted:It turns our that a lot of conspiracy theories involve racism once you start to drill down into them, or possibly every conspiracy theorist I've known has been a white person. speaking of which, the entire gist of illuminati conspiracy theories hinges on Jews controlling the world. there was a very good blog post i read somewhere dissecting the whole thing and saying that inner-city black people (which the author says is a particularly widespread belief there) should stop believing in that poo poo because of it
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May 24, 2019 18:10
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:mostly when he portrays the wealthy and powerful as demonic fiends who are killing us all. it's a very obvious point, sure, but his interpretations of it are very striking. Sure he's tepidly correct in a very general sense, but his interpretation invariably conflated "rich assholes" with "zionists/Jews," and argues that they're killing us with vaccines, microwave emitters built into our phones, GMO foods, fluoridated water, and fiat currency.
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Gazpacho posted:yah you don't get to promote the protocols of zion, as icke does, and argue that you don't really mean jewz ugh double gross. my experience with conspiracy theories really revolves around a year of listening to art bell for a year because it made my boss laugh and my own step dad falling down a YouTube rabbit hole
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May 24, 2019 18:27
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Gazpacho posted:yah you don't get to promote the protocols of zion, as icke does, and argue that you don't really mean jewz oh 
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I don’t recall that William Cooper called out Jews in his writing, but his main source on the Illuminati, Myron Fagan, was antisemitic as gently caress
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Popoi posted:Another fave is this guy talking about how he can't figure out how to properly cast a spell called "Accepted for Value" to turn his electric bill in to free money https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFOe386YB0A Ahaha there is a line half way through that sums it up "I made this series to highlight my failures and successes. And I have only had one success, which is sending the form"
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May 24, 2019 18:42
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redemptionists are corncobs like no other
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May 24, 2019 18:45
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Silver Nitrate posted:The krassensteins got banned on twitter. Good loving riddance.
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Gazpacho posted:I don’t recall that William Cooper called out Jews in his writing, but his main source on the Illuminati, Myron Fagan, was antisemitic as gently caress In Behold a Pale Horse he included the entirety of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, just prefaced with “For every mention of Jew mentally replace it with Illuminati/Freemasons/NWO” and also that he thinks the Illuminati scapegoated Jews throughout history all in all Cooper was probably less bigoted than your modern day Republican
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May 24, 2019 19:10
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Daily Reminder that a certain subset of flat earthers literally believe trees don't exist, that what we think are trees are really bushes and that real trees only existed thousands of years ago and were literally just the magical living trees from Avatar
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May 24, 2019 19:14
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im not sure how you guys get confused by any of this stuff, just follow the handy charts.  
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I've met two SovCits in my life and they were both young black dudes that I've worked with, which I found interesting because I assumed us whites were the main demographic for conspiracy poo poo. One was pretty adamant aboutOldTennisCourt posted:literally every american has like 1 billion dollars in a super secret mega ultra double hidden bank account and added some poo poo about the stock market and the powers that be using our secret accounts for it, also something about the police being a corporation because if you look closely you'll see an LLC on the side of cop cars or some poo poo.
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a lot of these would be great for Unknown Armies lore and campaigns chaleski posted:I've met two SovCits in my life and they were both young black dudes that I've worked with, which I found interesting because I assumed us whites were the main demographic for conspiracy poo poo. One was pretty adamant about can’t find the article but apparently Sovcit found its way into the black community through one of the hucksters offering lectures at churches. One guy got off of death row by essentially ruining his own case to the point where the judge could not in good conscience complete the trial, and he’s become living proof of the efficacy of the method.
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