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Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:

quote:

YOU ARE A TERRORIZED MEMBER of the “MASTER RACE”, WORLD-WIDE FOUR BILLION EYE-SIGHT TELEVISION CAMERA GUINEA PIG COMMUNIST GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD “MASTER RACE.” YOUR LIVING THINKING MAD, DEADLY WORLD-WIDE COMMUNIST GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD SECRET OVER-ALL PLAN: WORLD-WIDE LIVING DEATH FRANKENSTEIN SLAVERY to EXPLORE AND CONTROL THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE. With the ENDLESS “STAIRWAY TO THE STARS.” Namely the MAN MADE INSIDE-OUT PLANETS with NUCLEONIC POWERED SPEEDS MUCH FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT. LOOK UP AND SEE THE GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD CONCOCTED NEW FAKE STARRY SKY. THE WORLD-WIDE COMPLETELY CONTROLLED DEADLY DEGENERATIVE CLIMATE AND ATMOSPHERE. THROUGH THE NEW WORLD ROUND TRANSLUCENT EXOTIC GASEOUS ENVELOPE, WHICH the WORLD-WIDE COMMUNIST GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD MANIPULATES THROUGH COUNTLESS EXACTLY POSITIONED SATELLITES, THE NEW FAKE, PHONY STARS IN THE SYNTHETIC “SKY”.

no one even comes close to Francis E Dec’s poetry today

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Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:

i dunno the guys on the left seem like a bunch of dumb assholes to me :shrug:

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

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The standard “no reason” is that these high funded organizations need to keep sharp on harassing people so they pick targets as practice, spending hundreds-thousands of man hours and money on lonesome individuals and somehow this is cost effective.

In the pretty interesting book Chameleo, the reason was that the dude had harbored a dude who stole some equipment from the navy.

During the Bush years, there were alleged victims who were part of the anti-war movement.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
I mean there are liberal conspiracy theorists who were big on the idea that America has essentially been a fascist state since after WW2, it’s just that they don’t succeed in media as much (Dave Emory), are dead (David McGowan), or have fallen off the face of the Earth (Martin Cannon props to wherever he is).

Dr. Killjoy has issued a correction as of 06:11 on May 24, 2019

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
Wanna get myself Dees art collections and just leave them on the coffee table for company to see.

Dr. Killjoy posted:

The Mandela Effect is pretty neat because psychologically it works on people because of how fragile and susceptible to manipulation our memory really is. Just suggest something totally contrary, anything really: show a group of people a (photoshopped) period appropriate photograph of Bugs Bunny at Disneyland and half of them will start recalling seeing him their as kids, or suggest they could have been molested (or abducted by aliens). Heck the fact that there are baby boomers who’ve been seeing long remaining contrails their entire lives but now believe that they only started showing up in the 90s is perhaps one the better illustrations on the magnitude of this phenomenon.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

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Gazpacho posted:

I don’t recall that William Cooper called out Jews in his writing, but his main source on the Illuminati, Myron Fagan, was antisemitic as gently caress

In Behold a Pale Horse he included the entirety of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, just prefaced with “For every mention of Jew mentally replace it with Illuminati/Freemasons/NWO” and also that he thinks the Illuminati scapegoated Jews throughout history

all in all Cooper was probably less bigoted than your modern day Republican

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:

a lot of these would be great for Unknown Armies lore and campaigns

chaleski posted:

I've met two SovCits in my life and they were both young black dudes that I've worked with, which I found interesting because I assumed us whites were the main demographic for conspiracy poo poo. One was pretty adamant about

can’t find the article but apparently Sovcit found its way into the black community through one of the hucksters offering lectures at churches. One guy got off of death row by essentially ruining his own case to the point where the judge could not in good conscience complete the trial, and he’s become living proof of the efficacy of the method.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
Using elements of the Illuminati that anyone can find in a conspiracy book in a public library in your art? You’re part of the conspiracy.


Using elements of the Illuminati that anyone can find in a cursory google image search? You’re part of the conspiracy.

Using elements of the Illuminati that I invented last week for my blog out of whole cloth in your art? You better believe you’re part of the conspiracy.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:

quote:

In April, state TV profiled a Union SSR member in the city of Nizhny Tagil who had refused to pay bills for the past three years. According to her homeowner's association, she owed more than 100,000 rubles ($1,500) and her electricity had been shut off 13 times. Each time, she managed to reactivate it herself. On her door hung a sign reading: "This apartment belongs to the jurisdiction of the U.S.S.R. The laws of the Russian Federation have no legal force here

this woman loving owns.
A real Virgin Sovereign Citizen vs the Chad Soviet Citizen.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
counterpoint: it’s far more believable that the funds get (mis)appropriated for blow and pizza parties than actually building super technology

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

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Azathoth posted:

This is a thing that happened and everyone just shrugged because we were all freaking out about Trump:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkUTGpegZN0

Article with a good rundown of the circumstances, and why it's so weird: https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_586d37bce4b014e7c72ee56b

Note that everything looks funny and less conventional in IR spectrum, and that the pilots’ description of the object sounded a little more like an aircraft. And radar, that can be hosed with, Air Force and CIA have had that capability since the 50s - a lot of UFO radar hits over the years (where temperature inversions could be ruled out) were undoubtedly their handiwork.

Failson posted:

There's a conspiracy theorist that supposedly worked with Wernher von Braun later in his life - Dr Carol Rosin, she's always claimed that he told her that fake "aliens" would be the last big bad that the military industrial complex planned to fight after communists and terrorism.

I think it all got wrapped up in Project Bluebeam and HAARP tinfoil-hattery.

She didn’t even come up with that, the ideas been around since the novel Saucer by Bernard Newman in 1948, and later Report from Iron Mountain in 1967, which is styled like a think tank document on how to deal with a stagnating economy by either 1) Staging a fake environmental threat (lol) 2) Using technology to legalize slavery in everything but name (this one is pretty plausible really ahahaha) 3) hoaxed alien threat.

Dr. Killjoy has issued a correction as of 00:57 on May 29, 2019

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
There’s no real proof but given Martin Cannon’s speculation in his The Controllers essay, and John Keel’s testimony that upon putting UFO and alien witnesses under hypnosis (lot of problems with this I know), while they would recall their alien encounters, upon a little more refined prodding they would recount being kidnapped into vans and taken into buildings and hosed with in medical procedures by mere men. So there is a possibility that some classic mind control procedures went into operation during the 60s staged under extraterrestrial pageantry. Jacques Vallee and modern researcher Jack Brewer (who’s interviewed in Mirage Men) have done plenty of work in that regard, and MILABS is a neat book examining the subject that’s unfortunately out of print with copies getting pretty pricey these days.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
jungian archetypal wild man Bigfoot

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
it looks like the blackbird’s shittier little brother
I hate it

I’m partial to the idea that the “Aurora” Project is still active given that hobbyists keep picking up weird radar signals and do some weird detective work navigating government receipts. Also it’s pretty funny the project was “leaked” via loving airplane model kits.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
dividing and merging objects have been seen since the sixties at least so not so sure if we can explain those sightings, but of course groupings of balloons could very easily make a similar visual effect...

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
https://secretsun.blogspot.com/2019/05/sync-or-swym-future-is-mermale.html

quote:

Speaking of the timeline, this breakthrough here hit the news a little sooner than I anticipated. See, I've been telling the world that the real "Trans" movement will be the Transgenic movement, and that everything else is just a warmup for it.
...
I knew the next phase in the Amphibious Agenda was going to be revealed when I saw this story as well. Again, no one can argue with the use of what is functionally Transgenics to treat young burn patients.

Like a vagina for a woman born without one, it seems like a medical miracle. But if you've been around as long as I have you know it's all just window-dressing, masking the ultimate agenda.

After all, you don't come out of the gate telling the world that modern genetic science is going to make it possible to create real physical mermaids, even if the first few batches of volunteers will all die horrible, agonizing deaths. That's just not very effective salesmanship. You gotta take baby-steps with these things. Ease the rubes into it.
:thunkher:

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
Whoah hollywood running a mythological creature into the ground because of a fad???

Although, can't wait for the terrible faerie fad to start in a mad dash when Netflix's Dark Crystal comes out. Love me some fae. Wanna see whatever Roswell High but with faeries crap that will definitely come out.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

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I dunno Mr Rigorous Intuition wrote this in 2011 and who’s to say he’s wrong? He’s probably right about the reptiloids too!

quote:

Obama's best advice to Americans during that particular obscenity was that they should shop, swim and pray: one of those crystalline moments that said, yes, this President too is a Celebrity Apprentice to the Criminals Without Borders. Such a stand-up effort won't be forgotten when he leaves his office - an internship, really - and is initiated into Big Money, of which his presidency is merely a rite of passage: a pledge's gofer'ing for the inviolate fraternity of laundered capital. For Democratic presidents and Labour prime ministers, if they actually entered politics with even modest virtue and tepid vision for the public good, they have been richly rewarded for their abandonment. The sudden good fortunes of Clinton and Blair: this is what it profit a man. (By contrast, Jimmy Carter's post-presidency is perhaps an extended act of atonement to win back his soul.) Can there remain any doubt as to which career path Obama means to follow? Bill Clinton has earned more than $65 million dollars since leaving office for motivational "power within" speeches before business executives and similar peers who can afford him. Just imagine Obama's speeches. And his appearance fees. The American presidency is now just something that looks good on a resume, which can lead to a cash-for-life revenue stream.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

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Mel Mudkiper posted:

speaking of UFOs, one factor that I always loved was the origin of "flying saucer"

It was originally used to describe the stability of the trajectory of the object. The witness said it moved smoothly like a saucer moving across a table. People misread it as the ship itself being shaped like a saucer.

From then on, people reported seeing "flying saucers"

It was a mass delusion caused by poor reading comprehension

half-right, unidentified flying objects weren’t called “flying saucers” prior to Kenneth Arnold’s sighting of crescent shaped objects, but they were often described as like plates and bowls, heck baskets and basins when you go into antiquity.

the popular appearance of a UFO maybe more influenced by the covers of pulp mags by the notorious Raymond Palmer* though

*Funnily enough also connected to Kenneth Arnold :grin:

Dr. Killjoy has issued a correction as of 17:32 on Jun 5, 2019

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:

quote:

Thompson then quotes CS Lewis, who names, and owns, in Surprised by Joy our civilization's still anxious state of perpetual revolution:

...in the hive and the anthill we see fully realized the two things that some of us most dread for our own species - the dominance of the female and the dominance of the collective.

If you feel like This isn't the way it's supposed to be, then I think you're right, but I also think it wasn't always thus. And those who say "Socialism is fine in theory, but it goes against human nature," may be mistaking our current sick and misinstructed selves for our natural state. Or maybe soon, under the Singularity, be mistaking the transhuman for the human.

This guy owns bones, I’m a matriarchal hive communist now.

EDIT: oh I’ve had his book (Rigorous Intuition: What You Don't Know Can't Hurt Them) on my to get list for a while. getting now.

Dr. Killjoy has issued a correction as of 20:51 on Jun 5, 2019

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
very carefully

I think it’s a rule that if you are a head honcho in UFOlogy you must also look like you stepped out of a saucer yourself



quote:

The magazine might have limped through the 1940s, largely ignored by everyone, if not for a single incident. Howard Browne, a television writer who served as Palmer’s associate editor in those days, recalls: “early in the 1940s, a letter came to us from Dick Shaver purporting to reveal the “truth” about a race of freaks, called “Deros,” living under the surface of the earth. Ray Palmer read it, handed it to me for comment. I read a third of it, tossed it in the waste basket. Ray, who loved to show his editors a trick or two about the business, fished it out of the basket, ran it in AMAZING, and a flood of mail poured in from readers who insisted every word of it was true because they’d been plagued by Deros for years.” (3)

Actually, Palmer had accidentally tapped a huge, previously unrecognized audience. Nearly every community has at least one person who complains constantly to the local police that someone – usually a neighbor – is aiming a terrible ray gun at their house or apartment. This ray, they claim, is ruining their health, causing their plants to die, turning their bread moldy, making their hair and teeth fall out, and broadcasting voices into their heads. Psychiatrists are very familiar with these “ray” victims and relate the problem with paranoid-schizophrenia. For the most part, these paranoiacs are harmless and usually elderly. Occasionally, however, the voices they hear urge them to perform destructive acts, particularly arson. They are a distrustful lot, loners by nature, and very suspicious of everyone, including the government and all figures of authority. In earlier times, they thought they were hearing the voice of god and/or the Devil. Today they often blame the CIA or space beings for their woes. They naturally gravitate to eccentric causes and organizations which reflect their own fears and insecurities, advocating bizarre political philosophies and reinforcing their peculiar belief systems. Ray Palmer unintentionally gave thousands of these people focus to their lives

and of course all these guys’ modern day analogues form the bulk of the targeted individual community

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
https://twitter.com/cryptoloren/status/1136607884060569601?s=21

wonder how many special forces delta squad members in Bigfoot costumes get shot to death by hunters

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

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The Air Force “confirmed” it in the 90s with some report that didn’t exactly prove anything but does sound rather plausible and mostly correct. Heck an even weirder and probably more correct theory along those lines has come up that the Air Force press statements (two separate statements to different wire services that were just a tad bit different) at the time were actually part of a decrypting exercise against intercepted Soviet communications at the time, thus lumping the whole incident under the Venona Project.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

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Failson posted:

What was the book that claimed it was a Russian propaganda thing to cause a panic, and the "aliens" were deformed or surgically altered kids?

Oh and the US never came forward with it, because they were trying the same thing?

That one seems too neatly Chris Carterish.

Originally one theory was from researcher Jenny Randles from an “insider” and the claim was specifically that the USSR was able to fake Mengele’s death and he helped them with the project, with Mengele pitching the idea and collabing out the designs of the monster kids with none other than Papa Stalin himself. Then Nick Redfern has done a recent variation where it was an American project using Japanese POWs, not nearly as good casting in that one though.

Dr. Killjoy has issued a correction as of 22:35 on Jun 18, 2019

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
Oh hey turns out the chemtrail dudes were completely right but also completely wrong at the same time

https://www.sciencealert.com/airplane-contrails-are-a-climate-change-factor-we-re-totally-ignoring-scientists-warn

doing anything to regulate or limit air travel would be Illuminati communism so I guess they’re just going to have to learn to live with it though*

*die in a boiling planet

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

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https://twitter.com/ellie_olb/status/1149516892677165056?s=21

about to do a deep dive into the Satanic Panic (I guess I skimmed it in high school but don’t recall too many details) and can’t wait for my brain to crack in half, any book/documentary/podcast recommendations on that subject?

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/27/italian-police-arrest-18-for-allegedly-brainwashing-and-selling-children
:thunk:

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
:smugmrgw: “Riddle me this Batman, what is in the shape of a triangle, tastes delicious, and is chock full of walnut sauce?”

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

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https://nypost.com/2017/10/02/new-book-claims-widespread-radiation-testing-during-cold-war/

quote:

Among those who recall the testing is Mary Helen Brindell, 73. She was playing baseball in a St. Louis street in the mid-1950s when a squadron of green planes flew so low overhead that she could see the face of the lead pilot. Suddenly, the children were covered in a fine powdery substance that stuck to skin moistened by summer sweat.

Speaking of UFOs pretty sure that John Keel mentioned a few cases of unmarked aircraft doing exactly this. Rereading those books or his articles is always a fun game of "Spot the secret military/intelligence operation".

Dr. Killjoy has issued a correction as of 19:29 on Aug 19, 2019

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
With them and the Moonies, how many other foreign originating cults with CIA connections have media footholds in this country?

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
drat, always knew something was hosed up about ska

quote:

I spoke with a friend who works for a local concert lighting company.

He was telling me about how he almost got to go on tour as a lighting tech for The Dave Matthews Band. He's not a fan but he was interested in going cuz he's heard so much about the strangeness of their tours.

So I mentioned to him the fact that there were several riots at Dave Matthews shows last year - strange since they are a real non-violent kinda groove. Then he or I mentioned the band Phish and their infamous touring groupies remeniscant of the Grateful Dead. I mentioned the rumors that Phish concerts were test beds for mind control research.

He thought that very interesting because Phish are one of the only touring bands he is aware of that have ever requested their own programming to be implanted in the "lithos" of the lights. The "lithos" is a programmed action module within the light itself which interfaces with whatever kind of controller the light techs are using to manipulate the lights. The "lithos" had been specially programmed by the inhouse programmers in the R&D department of Lightwave Research at the behest of the Phish touring show. Also, these particular "lithos" were only controllable by Phish's special controller devices - my friend said he could not get them to work because none of his standard equipment could control the units.

The other strange thing, he said, was that when the lights were returned after the tour they were in the worst shape as any that had ever been returned. My friend says this was strange because they've gotten lights back from tours like Metallica and other metal/hard rock bands and they had never been returned in such bad shape.

My friend still has the special "lithos" modules from the Phish lights and I've asked him to question his friends in the R&D facility to find out a little more about the special programming that went into these Phishy lights.

Thought you'd like to know of this.

I'll keep you posted.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
well they can use our lizard brain, that gland under your tongue that squirts saliva, and maybe the tailbone for one

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
Got reminded of What the Bleep do We Know today and decided to read up on the Ramtha Foundation:

quote:

In her teachings "Ramtha" has made several controversial statements such as Christianity is a "backward" religion, that Jesus' parables can be explained by means of photon waves and probability,[27] that "murder isn't really wrong or evil" (if one believes in reincarnation),[28] or (during the court case JZ Knight v Jeff Knight) Jeff Knight stated Ramtha had declared HIV is Nature's way of 'getting rid of' homosexuality.[27] The Southern Poverty Law Center observed "Ramtha" has made anti-semitic comments such as ""gently caress God's chosen people! I think they have earned enough cash to have paid their way out of the goddamned gas chambers by now".[9]

For your mental image’s sake, this is a white blonde lady putting on an Indian accent.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

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given that his spine is effectively eating itself Lowtax may as well be a four foot tall hunchback at this point

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

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DeLonge has straight up said he wants to bridge the gap between young people and the government

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

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quote:

They drove about 10 minutes, when they saw it. They both work with movie sets. At first they thought it was a movie base camp. “It’s this big tent structure, like a circus tent, 50-60 feet tall. Coming off the left of it was this long building, almost like what you would build for an archery lane for target practice. It was a third the height, but really long, maybe a couple hundred feet.”

They were about a quarter mile away and couldn’t see the bottom of the structure.

They watched it for about a minute as they drove.

“What is it,” he asked Lucero, “a base camp for a movie? Or are they building an alien ship set?”

They drove down a little hill, lost sight of the structure for at most five seconds, Brinkley said.

“When we topped the hill, it was gone. Just gone.”

it do be like that sometimes :iiam:

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

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Red Pill Junkie is alright and a great guest on a number of podcasts but only problem is he’s an anarchist

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
that was clearly Anderson Cooper in the footage though

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

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Failson posted:

Check off a bunch of black triangle UFO sightings as this thing:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30845/airbuss-secret-stealth-unmanned-combat-air-vehicle-research-program-breaks-cover

It's literally a black triangle.

well actually that’s a black kite

4 sides

I like the mockup where it’s plainly just one of the wedge shaped alien craft from the early mid X files seasons

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Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

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France apology after history textbook links CIA to 9/11

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On page 204 the author explains the context of the creation of the jihadist group, al-Qaeda and the "quadruple terrorist attack of 11/9 2001 on New York and Washington". He then makes the following statement.

"This global event - no doubt orchestrated by the CIA (secret services) to impose American influence on the Middle East? - hit the symbols of American power on its own territory."
...

The story was picked up by the Conspiracy Watch website, which complained that the sentence falsely suggested that there was some sort of controversy surrounding 11 September.

famously uncontroversial sequence of events, 9/11

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