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The problem with every Terminator movie since 2 is that they've felt like completely soulless cash grabs, just trading off the name.
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Just like Aliens. James Cameron makes movies too good! Combine the two.... Aliens vs Terminator!!!!
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May 31, 2019 00:49
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muscles like this! posted:The problem with every Terminator movie since 2 is that they've felt like completely soulless cash grabs, just trading off the name. This but for every movie since the first.
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May 31, 2019 01:03
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Tenzarin posted:Just like Aliens. James Cameron makes movies too good! I'm pretty sure this is a Dark Horse comic.
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Jun 1, 2019 06:55
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how can anyone hate this movie
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Jun 1, 2019 19:38
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Adlai Stevenson posted:how can anyone hate this movie That wasnt even in the movie. But the fan cut that takes out all the silly parts is actually the best fan cut of any movie I've ever seen and makes the movie halfway decent (and a pretty tight film).
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Jun 1, 2019 19:46
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 This is like schlock heaven.
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Jun 1, 2019 20:11
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Adlai Stevenson posted:how can anyone hate this movie The best part of the movie isn't in the actual movie. Terminator 3, everyone.
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Jun 1, 2019 20:19
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Darko posted:That wasnt even in the movie. AceOfFlames posted:The best part of the movie isn't in the actual movie. but if you ignore that point you'll see that I'm right I'll still go to bat for the ending
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Jun 1, 2019 20:47
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I agree that the ending is pretty great.
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Jun 1, 2019 21:17
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The ending surprised me when I saw it and elevated the theatrical cut to mediocre.
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Jun 1, 2019 21:19
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The best thing about the ending is that the movie's over.
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Jun 1, 2019 21:36
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Is the T3 ending the one where nothing they do can stop Judgment Day?
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Jun 1, 2019 23:14
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if they picked up after that ending sequels would have been way better
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Jun 1, 2019 23:14
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magiccarpet posted:if they picked up after that ending sequels would have been way better They did. It's called Terminator Salvation. They made it super boring about a future war computer virus. And not a purely about a future war.
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Jun 2, 2019 00:41
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Sir Kodiak posted:This but for every movie since the first. I agree somewhat, in that T2 is literally just T1 redone as action instead of horror. Both movies start with warping into alleys, a chase through a mall, road chase and confrontation in parking garage, a shootout with police, extended vehicle chase where halfway through the Terminator gets a big rig that crashes into a factory, finally ending with the villain dying due to heavy industrial equipment. T2 is pretty much just a reconstruction of T1, in some cases with nearly identical shots. It just happens to be masterfully done.
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Jun 2, 2019 06:07
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Narzack posted:Is the T3 ending the one where nothing they do can stop Judgment Day? Yes. Specifically they arrive at the top secret bunker where Skynet's core was supposedly located and there's nothing there: both Kate's dad and the T-800 tricked them into going there to ride out Judgement Day because Skynet doesn't have a core: Skynet is a completely decentralized system whose software was embedded in every device ever connected to the Internet, and thus impossible to destroy. It's great because it plays with how technology evolved since the first two films in a way that helps the story. AceOfFlames fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Jun 2, 2019 |
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Jun 2, 2019 15:24
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I do not know why but suddenly the image of Obama being the Terminator chasing down the heroes popped into my head
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Jun 2, 2019 16:07
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Trailer looked bad. The action looks like it has zero stakes and everything is cgi. Just looks boring
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Jun 2, 2019 16:13
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^^^Looks god awful^^^Goreld posted:I agree somewhat, in that T2 is literally just T1 redone as action instead of horror. Both movies start with warping into alleys, a chase through a mall, road chase and confrontation in parking garage, a shootout with police, extended vehicle chase where halfway through the Terminator gets a big rig that crashes into a factory, finally ending with the villain dying due to heavy industrial equipment. I never thought of it that way but you're kind of right. I think T2 is to T1 as Aliens is to Alien. Hardly an original observation, I know, but one I think is essential to why these are both one of the few movie franchises to get the (immediate) sequels right. It doesn't happen that often and think it speaks to Cameron's strength as a film maker to a certain degree. Maybe Avatar 2 will be OK? Cameron has directed 2 of my favorite movie sequels of all time.
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Jun 2, 2019 16:39
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I'm holding out for James Cameron's Abysses, where Ed Harris leads a squad of underwater commandos in exterminating the eldritch aliens at the bottom of the sea.
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Jun 3, 2019 14:00
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They could do a cross over with aqua man and he could fight the tidal waves.
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Jun 4, 2019 00:00
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Wild T posted:I'm holding out for James Cameron's Abysses, where Ed Harris leads a squad of underwater commandos in exterminating the eldritch aliens at the bottom of the sea. So, then, would True Lies be the awesome sequel to the more stalkerish True Lie?
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Jun 4, 2019 01:22
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Darko posted:That wasnt even in the movie. I can't remember who said it here, but it was in the lead up to Genysis coming out, that one of Cameron's abilities as a director is knowing exactly when to throttle off on a joke. There's some good gags in T2, but he always stops just short of goofiness, and tends to tie the joke to the scene and character. It's a very fine distinction, but Cameron has a nose for it that Mostow didn't.
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Jun 4, 2019 03:08
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I hated this joke so much.
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Jun 4, 2019 13:36
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Narzack posted:I hated this joke so much. Parody movies were strong at the time. T3 skipped the middle man and made a parody of itself inside itself.
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Jun 4, 2019 14:21
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Elton John: Terminator is a movie I'd watch
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Jun 4, 2019 17:37
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Adlai Stevenson posted:Elton John: Terminator is a movie I'd watch We've got to Burn Down This Mission if you want to stay alive.
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Jun 4, 2019 23:50
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Narzack posted:I hated this joke so much. Ironically, I think it doesn't work because it doesn't go far enough. There's no reason for the Terminator to take them, and, in turn, there's no reason for him to switch them. Give him a reason to take them, and have him wear them without comment or focus right up until they get broken or something. Essentially, play the goofy joke straight, and I think it works.
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Jun 5, 2019 01:05
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I feel like the best Terminator movie would just be No Country For Old Men but at the end they subtly hint he was the Terminator.
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Jun 5, 2019 03:02
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"no we promise this time it's gonna be good james cameron is back" as though he didn't support the horseshit that was Genisys
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Jun 5, 2019 03:49
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Remember, he also thought AvP was great
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Jun 5, 2019 03:51
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Snowman_McK posted:I can't remember who said it here, but it was in the lead up to Genysis coming out, that one of Cameron's abilities as a director is knowing exactly when to throttle off on a joke. There's some good gags in T2, but he always stops just short of goofiness, and tends to tie the joke to the scene and character. It's a very fine distinction, but Cameron has a nose for it that Mostow didn't. Yeah, I liked when John was trying to get it to smile and it looked really creepy, and the way it picked up the baby and stared at it like it was an alien. It was funny but also wasn't out of place and just fit well with the narrative overall and somehow perfectly balanced between being creepy and amusing.
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Jun 5, 2019 04:08
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SUNKOS posted:Yeah, I liked when John was trying to get it to smile and it looked really creepy, and the way it picked up the baby and stared at it like it was an alien. It was funny but also wasn't out of place and just fit well with the narrative overall and somehow perfectly balanced between being creepy and amusing. That's exactly what I mean. Both scenes are good and funny, but both flow out of the scene and the characters as we already understand them.
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Jun 5, 2019 05:47
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Snowman_McK posted:That's exactly what I mean. Both scenes are good and funny, but both flow out of the scene and the characters as we already understand them. I always get a laugh out of the scene with "Jesus! You were going to kill that guy!" "Of course; I'm a Terminator." It's goofy but totally in-character for this essentially mindless killing machine that has just been told to "take care of these guys". And the joke goes into actual character development for the Terminator and especially John, who moments ago was thrilled about having this insanely powerful murdertoy at his disposal, and now realises that holy poo poo, this is actually a huge responsibility and I have to be careful with it.
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Jun 5, 2019 09:31
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Quote-Unquote posted:I always get a laugh out of the scene with It also leads into the next scene where the Terminator shoots someone. "What the hell are you doing?!" "He'll live." The fact that the Terminators are sentient killing machines who don't really desire to be human yet can change and grow is one of the best parts of the mythos. It's something the TV series explores, the idea that, no matter what, a Terminator is a killing machine. On some level, it wants to kill. Not out of malice or anything, but just because that's what they were made to do - it's what they are. That "Of course" line is right on that.
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Jun 5, 2019 10:15
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Narzack posted:Remember, he also thought AvP was great He said it was dumb until he realized that PR is a thing and walked it back like he does with everything else.
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Jun 5, 2019 15:30
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Quote-Unquote posted:I always get a laugh out of the scene with One thing that really makes that scene work is the booming gunshot that kinda jars you out of joke mode and instantly into "oh poo poo this is actually serious". The sound work on all the guns in Terminator 2 was really top notch.
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Jun 5, 2019 16:00
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Basebf555 posted:One thing that really makes that scene work is the booming gunshot that kinda jars you out of joke mode and instantly into "oh poo poo this is actually serious". The sound work on all the guns in Terminator 2 was really top notch. You think so? I always felt the gunshots sounded pretty muted and/or didn't sound correct for the firearm. The mall shootout is a good example of this, the T-1000's Beretta has a weird high pitched sound and Arnold's shotgun is overloud, but it's all for effect rather than reality. The elevator fight at the mental hospital also has some pretty dodgy sounds.
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Narzack posted:Remember, he also thought AvP was great Cameron has done this with every Terminator project he hasn't been involved in: Prior to release, he goes all "Yeah, I've seen it, it's really true to the spirit of the franchise and they did a great job." Then a month after the turd drops, he reverses course and says, "I have no loving idea what they were trying to do."
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