Roof of the World: A Tibet Paradox Megacampaign

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Yuiiut: Jul 3, 2022; I've got something to tell you. Something that may shock and discredit you. And that thing is as follows: I'm not wearing a tie at all.

Tulip posted:

That's actually a pretty old tech and I could see it developing even earlier in this setting

To be clear most funiculars are fundamentally different vehicles than trains, even if they use basically the same tech (arguably, lower tech demand) and most of the ones you'll find pictures of are people movers rather than freight elevators. Nonetheless its very achievable with little technical innovation beyond basic trains that trains could come into a place in a lower region like the Terai, have the cars get transferred from the locomotive driven train to funicular platforms, and then those funicular platforms disgorge onto a different train in a yard on the Tibetan plateau. Such a system would likely create small economic nexuses on either side of the Himalayas, which TBH probably would follow existing economic nexuses that likely date back to the 1400s to meet pre-industrial demand for transportation over the Himalayas to feed and develop Lhasa.

That's nifty, and I can see glacial ice being used as the counterweight on the descent for shipping to lower Tibet pre-refrigeration for use in lower Tibet - the increased accessibility of Himalayan ice disrupting the traditional low-quality ice manufacturing centers along the Ganges. Most of lower (Indian) Tibet is likely first on the block of industrial disruption - textiles in Bengal in particular.

How scalable would funiculars be? My knowledge of proto-industrial throughput is limited to England, but I can imagine resource-intensive heavy industry (steel etc) is likely to be located outside the Tibetan plateau as soon as political tolerance exists for such a move - even with transfer lines, getting substantial quantities of ore and coal up the Himalayas will be no easy feat.

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Yuiiut: Jul 3, 2022; I've got something to tell you. Something that may shock and discredit you. And that thing is as follows: I'm not wearing a tie at all.

Tulip posted:

I hand wondered about this. The IRL Tibetan plateau has never been a major economic nexus and has only had brief forays into being a political nexus (periods which I only have passing familiarity with, mostly knowing the period during the Tang dynasty when they were largely failing to militarily resist the Tibetans). By game mechanics, the Tibetan plateau is an economic nexus, just factually, based on its development scores in EU4. The question is of course what that looks like. Kangxi is perfectly within her rights to give any of a number of justifications for that, up to and including "has some economic factor that it simply does not have IRL like more water, more fertile soil, etc)." If it does have precious metals that's definitely an avenue of explanation, and depending on the metals in question it may make sense to have the finishing workers near the mines rather than exporting the ores (a counter-example would be iron - iron is an extremely common ore, the locations of iron mines are usually about being close to fuel sources for the extremely fuel intensive smelting process rather than being near the actual sources of iron, because there's a lot of iron sources but not nearly as many heavy woodlands to justify the massive charcoaling operations that you need for smelting).

Thesis: The Tawantinsuyu Empire, being stronger and further advanced than OTL, bred potatoes that thrived in the higher altitudes and sparser soils of the Andes, explaining its increased population density.

Many scholars (who?) today theorize that the introduction of the 'Inkan Root' to the Tibetan plateau and the subsequent increase in urbanisation across the plateau for disrupting the economic base of the traditional pastoral nobility, setting the stage for the Tibetan Revolution (speculative).

# ¿ Jan 24, 2023 01:11

Yuiiut: Jul 3, 2022; I've got something to tell you. Something that may shock and discredit you. And that thing is as follows: I'm not wearing a tie at all.

I'm just trying to imagine what quasi-napoleonic warfare looks like with the front stretching from the highlands of the plateau to the jungles of the Sichuan basin. Some of our troops will be camping in -30 degree Celsius over the winter, unable to use artillery without bringing the mountain down on their heads and others will be wading through the monsoon mud, hunting local pandas for meat for the pots.

Out of interest, where are our barracks based - are we primarily recruiting from our Bengal subjects?

Clearly, we need more trains, to ensure our boys front lines can be fully supplied.

# ¿ Sep 18, 2023 04:33

Yuiiut: Jul 3, 2022; I've got something to tell you. Something that may shock and discredit you. And that thing is as follows: I'm not wearing a tie at all.

Tulip posted:

And we're super early for slingshotting our way out of it with a socialist revolution.

Can't wait till having our Franco-Prussian war before the landowners got their restoration itch scratched causes us restore the Purgyals permanently.

Has there ever been an LP with a monarchy that lasted all the way through Victoria/Hoi? I can't remember if Jerusalem was an absolute monarchy or military junta by the end, it's odd that there's never been a British-style constitutional monarchy (or even a liberal democracy to my recollection)

# ¿ Sep 22, 2023 04:29

Yuiiut: Jul 3, 2022; I've got something to tell you. Something that may shock and discredit you. And that thing is as follows: I'm not wearing a tie at all.

Well, so much for our old order

Kangxi posted:

Chinese citizens of our republic, you mean.

What's our current citizenship policy for non-Tibetans again? And what was the journal entry?

# ¿ Dec 27, 2023 06:37

Yuiiut: Jul 3, 2022; I've got something to tell you. Something that may shock and discredit you. And that thing is as follows: I'm not wearing a tie at all.

A, why would we move our capital to the lands that the rebellion, pathetic as it was, proved itself able to seize? Besides, the money spent building a pyramid for the new capital would be better spent on trains.

# ¿ Jan 1, 2024 03:22

Yuiiut: Jul 3, 2022; I've got something to tell you. Something that may shock and discredit you. And that thing is as follows: I'm not wearing a tie at all.

I srriously love that peacock flag

# ¿ Jan 14, 2024 01:17

Yuiiut: Jul 3, 2022; I've got something to tell you. Something that may shock and discredit you. And that thing is as follows: I'm not wearing a tie at all.

Crazycryodude posted:

Seven Rivers Republic

Under the condition that if we acquire more rivers we become the Eight, Nine, etc. Rivers Republic

It'd be easier to update all our stationary if we lost a river (retaining the SRR acronym) than if we gained one, our legislature has been infiltrated by aristocratic crypto-monarchists.

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# ¿ May 15, 2024 21:44

Yuiiut: Jul 3, 2022; I've got something to tell you. Something that may shock and discredit you. And that thing is as follows: I'm not wearing a tie at all.

Option 9 (twice)

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