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FactsAreUseless posted:This is one of the grossest things I've ever read.  you're welcome
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Sheen and his girlfriend have a kid on the way - he's 50, she's 25 and his existing daughter is 20.  I know they're both adults and I hope it works out for them, and they're certainly in a position to give the kid a good upbringing, but...it's kind of a bugbear of mine that older men dating younger women is so normalized. Like men can stay attractive as they age, but women get stereotyped as stopping at 30 - you know, just old enough to not take any crap from anyone. Not as bad as Leo's revolving door of 22-year-olds, but still.
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Jul 18, 2019 00:03
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Goddamn Particle posted:Sheen and his girlfriend have a kid on the way - he's 50, she's 25 and his existing daughter is 20. Yeah. Look at this ugly piece of poo poo. https://www.instagram.com/p/ByTUvEmBVcu/ (I don’t disagree with the thrust of your argument, but, uh, I would rephrase some of it)
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Yikes, I just reread it and I see what you mean  . Should have at least added /s, but I gave it a quick edit.I meant the entertainment/beauty industries act as if women disappear at 30 (eg Maggie Gyllenhall being "too old" to be a love interest to a 50-year-old costar while in her mid 30s, or beauty products being heavily marked with an emphasis on appearing younger). In hindsight I have a REALLY bad habit of sarcastically stating bad beliefs when I'm talking about them, and should, uh, not. Anyway, since that was a potential derail, here's some stuff I noticed on a rewatch Ep 6 the kidnapping from the park scene: The foreshadowing of the swap gets a lot of "I can't believe I didn't see that" comments in C&A's demeanor, but I just noticed that the entire team of angels and their truck go right by in the background of the shot when Crowley and Aziraphale are at the ice cream stand. There's an overhead shot of Hastur, Dagon and a third unnamed demon posing as a family, just before we cut to the ambassadors on the bench. Dagon is disguised as a man and Hastur is disguised as a woman. I love the little reminders that angels and demons don't have fixed genders (ditto Gaiman's confirmation on Twitter that Crowley is presenting as a woman during the Crucifixion flashback). Crowley and Aziraphale's conversation at the ice cream stand is mostly taken from the book, and they're reading each others' dialogue. The ice cream seller just stands there when they get captured. No, I don't know why either. Did they swap faces by possessing each other or did they shapeshift? Or something else entirely? If they shapeshifted, does that mean Crowley can change his eyes? It might be from Discworld rather than Good Omens, but IIRC changing something's eyes is really difficult in Pratchett stories. If it's possession, that negates Aziraphale's "probably explode" comment. General: The identical "disposable demon" characters (with the pointy hair and eyeliner). They're not killed by holy water, so are they permanently dead? Are they all the same character getting repeatedly discorporated and re-embodied? There would need to be some kind of time fuckery to get three of them at Meggido it they're all the same person though. Are they clones? And how likely is it that one or all of them invented YouTube makeup artist drama? As far as my earlier whinge goes, one fantastic thing about Good Omens is that it doesn't have the kind of gender bullshittery that shows up a lot in genre fiction. E.g. War looking old enough to have seen a few battles. Or a total lack of the "sexual violence as shorthand for a really bad villain" cliche (I just put down SM Stirling's Dies The Fire for introducing a villain this way). Or the demons played by women being just as wonderfully revolting as the ones played by men (look at the Wraith in Stargate: Atlantis for how not to do this). Beelzebub and Dagon have my favorite character designs of the whole series, with the Disposable Demon as runner-up. They don't make a fuss about this stuff, it's just kind of there, not in a self-congratulatory way. 10/10 would turn into Best of Queen again. Goddamn Particle fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Jul 18, 2019 |
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Jul 18, 2019 00:59
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I get your drift but the entertainment industry didn't cast Sheen's real-life girlfriend. one hopes.
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I figured their body swap was more complex than the normal shape shifting they can do. So Crawley was able to change his eyes because he was directly using Az's body to shape shift into it, rather than doing it on his own. Also I figure Crawley as the Nanny wasn't just him wearing a dress, but was an woman, with David Tennant's face. Lastly, a friend of mine is self learning digital art and made this, and welp https://twitter.com/michaelsheen/status/1150181234162753537
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Goddamn Particle posted:Sheen and his girlfriend have a kid on the way - he's 50, she's 25 and his existing daughter is 20. Sheen should bloody well know better. They've been together 5 loving minutes and she is expecting already? Jesus Christ, man.
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Mini episode for the 30th anniversary of the book: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quSXoj8Kob0
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The_Doctor posted:Mini episode for the 30th anniversary of the book: Thank you for this
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30th anniversary?! Ugh..... I feel so old....
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that gave me a smile.
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S2 is pretty good so let's Lazuraii this thread
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Judging by the agonized response to S2 around the internets at large, I'm going to go ahead and guess that there are an awful lot of watchers who are not readers.
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I forgot all about there even being a s2, guess I know what I'll be doing.
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It was a fun season, but I guess we're hoping for season 3? e: poo poo, I don't know what to spoiler or not, so for everyone's sake, watch the season first! Rappaport fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Jul 30, 2023 |
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Jul 30, 2023 05:09
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wow I can't believe [soiler]crowley is trans[/spoiler]
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Really enjoyed the new season. Casting was excellent - very happy that they reused Miranda Richardson. Also, Moray Hunter as a Calum Gilhooley-esque demon was great. And it was nice to have all of the League of Gentlemen (including the guy who played Jeremy Dyson in the movie) sharing the screen together again. A couple of minor irritations: 1. Maggie and Nina - I'm sure this is just a "me" problem, but for some reason my immersion gets broken a bit whenever actors play characters with their real names. 2. The subtitling was a bit off in episodes 4 and 5, with names inconsistently spelt and quite a few lines just plain wrong (eg "80% proof" becoming "thank you for sending proof", "what's it about?" becoming "what's up babe?" and "you tend to see things in black and white" becoming "you don't just see things in black and white"). And a whole scene in French with no attempt to either transcribe or translate. Overall I enjoyed it more than the first season (where I was already overfamiliar with the story, so anything that stuck to the book had me feeling "I already know this" and anything new had me feeling "this is different, I'm not sure whether I like it"). Rappaport posted:It was a fun season, but I guess we're hoping for season 3? I guess so - hopefully in less than 4 years  .
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1 posted:A couple of minor irritations: I think I noticed complaint 2 too, but since this show doesn't have that much gunfire and things going boom, I kept the volume fairly loud and could at least hear the dialogue fully. And this is a me non-problem, but I managed to follow the French dialogue despite not speaking French!  I had similar vibes about this season being 'fresh' rather than an adaptation. I did find most of the things in season 1 transferring the story a few decades funny, even though Crowley having a tape recorder answering machine was a bit cringe-worthy even if the gag was funny. In this season, I particularly liked continuing the Bentley gag by making the car 'alive' and following spoken orders from Aziraphale  Season 2 ending stuff I wasn't sure how to feel about things getting romantic, but... OK I guess? The cliff-hanger is a well-done cliff-hanger at least. Now we'll just have to wait for Amazon's number-crunchers to decide whether there were enough streaming minutes to make a new one. I would assume this show is sort of expensive with an ensemble cast and a lot of make-up and effects.
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Rappaport posted:And this is a me non-problem, but I managed to follow the French dialogue despite not speaking French! That's actually cheers me up - I did French at school (and even read the French edition of Good Omens a while ago to brush up) so wasn't sure if it would be followable by a non-speaker. Fun fact: that French edition has a quite impressive feat of translation - Crowley is renamed Rampa, which not only keeps the meaning ("rampa" more or less being "once crawled, but no longer crawls" in English) but also keeps the allusion to a famous "spiritual fraud" (shifting it from Aleister Crowley to Lobsang Rampa).
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I've had to spend some time in French-speaking countries for work reasons, so I know stuff like thank yous and so on, but I've never studied the language and couldn't have even a pidgin conversation in it if you had a gun to my head. For someone completely unfamiliar the scene might be different?
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Season 2 watchers - if I thought the stuff with the angel and the demon was entertaining and fun, but most everything outside them (the kids, scenes with a ton of narration, the book by the witch, etc) was kinda lackluster, am I gonna like this season or not? I saw a review or two that seemed negative, but I get the impression the reviewers wanted something very different than what I liked about s1.
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Electro-Boogie Jack posted:Season 2 watchers - if I thought the stuff with the angel and the demon was entertaining and fun, but most everything outside them (the kids, scenes with a ton of narration, the book by the witch, etc) was kinda lackluster, am I gonna like this season or not? I saw a review or two that seemed negative, but I get the impression the reviewers wanted something very different than what I liked about s1. Yes. lot less voiceover, no kids, no witch book. No mortals from S1 appear except in flashbacks iirc
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Jul 30, 2023 18:29
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And yes it's gotten much more textually homosexual
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Electro-Boogie Jack posted:Season 2 watchers - if I thought the stuff with the angel and the demon was entertaining and fun, but most everything outside them (the kids, scenes with a ton of narration, the book by the witch, etc) was kinda lackluster, am I gonna like this season or not? I saw a review or two that seemed negative, but I get the impression the reviewers wanted something very different than what I liked about s1. This season is mostly Crowley and Aziraphale having their own adventure with a large supporting cast.
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Electro-Boogie Jack posted:Season 2 watchers - if I thought the stuff with the angel and the demon was entertaining and fun, but most everything outside them (the kids, scenes with a ton of narration, the book by the witch, etc) was kinda lackluster, am I gonna like this season or not? I saw a review or two that seemed negative, but I get the impression the reviewers wanted something very different than what I liked about s1. Basically sums up my problem with season 1. Loved season 2, it really benefits from having the story centred on them.
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I enjoyed it a lot and yes I hope the wait for an inevitable season 3 isn’t as long. Also, more Gabriel and Beelzebub.
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I still have the last 20 minutes to go because I'm a coward. LOVED the interpretation of the Story of Job, Come back when you can make a whale!
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1 posted:2. The subtitling was a bit off in episodes 4 and 5, with names inconsistently spelt and quite a few lines just plain wrong (eg "80% proof" becoming "thank you for sending proof", "what's it about?" becoming "what's up babe?" and "you tend to see things in black and white" becoming "you don't just see things in black and white"). And a whole scene in French with no attempt to either transcribe or translate. It's all over the episodes, one of the early ones has an interesting interpretation of "plenipotentiary".
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tokin opposition posted:Yes. hell yeah tokin opposition posted:And yes it's gotten much more textually homosexual lol hell yeah Rappaport posted:This season is mostly Crowley and Aziraphale having their own adventure with a large supporting cast. yesss Lasca posted:Basically sums up my problem with season 1. Loved season 2, it really benefits from having the story centred on them. sold. thanks everyone
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Open Source Idiom posted:It's all over the episodes, one of the early ones has an interesting interpretation of "plenipotentiary". It's very possible my brain just slid over the errors until they started jumping out at me halfway through! It would be nice if there was, I dunno, some sort of document which contained all the dialogue said in an episode that could be given to the subtitler to help them out with difficult words or unclear speech, but I guess that's just a crazy idea.
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I'm probably in the minority here but I actually liked S1 better. S2 was still watchable but I just didn't feel like it had any real stakes. For the faults of S1, the device of "2 days til the end of the world", "1 day til the end of the world" etc worked for me especially given the style of the show. I just didn't buy into the Gabriel /Beelzebub story line and that twist just didn't feel earned at all. Part of it was I thought Hamm did such a good job in S1, and his rebooting-Janet act was ok but got kind of tiresome The best episode for me was the zombie episode . The two humans were fine, a little weird to hang so much of the show on them but it was ok and it got a nice resolution. Of the two main new celestials, I loved Muriel, she pretty much stole every scene she was in. Shax was pretty forgettable, which I guess was kind of on purpose since she's demon middle management but I wish they had given her a little more menace.
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BetterLekNextTime posted:I just didn't buy into the Gabriel /Beelzebub story line and that twist just didn't feel earned at all. Part of it was I thought Hamm did such a good job in S1, and his rebooting-Janet act was ok but got kind of tiresome I agree, I felt like the best parts of the second series were the vignettes of Aziraphale/Crowley throughout time and the overarching plot was kind of the least interesting part. I also remain perplexed as to why they didn't make this a period piece set in the 90s, it wasn't as glaring this season compared to the last but it still didn't feel necessary.
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tokin opposition posted:And yes it's gotten much more textually homosexual Despite the fact that the original text explicitly states that angels are asexual. But the 'shippers are going to love it. It's going to remind them of every lovely fanfic they've written these last four years.
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Season 2 ending stuff again I felt that both the Gabe-Belzie and Crowzaphale pairings weren't exactly earned by the rest of the show. Obviously Gabriel was a mystery box, but he was mostly used for gag humour for the entire season, and I did find Hamm's performance funny at least. The flash-backs (ugh sorry about the term) to Crowley and Aziraphale throughout history were good, but I guess since I was watching this through the lens of the book and season 1, it felt more like a buddy story rather than a romance denied. Maybe I'll look at it differently on a re-watch knowing the end goal? 
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Still watching so not reading a thing, but there is no way the he's repeating on me joke was not 100% Pterry.
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Jedit posted:Despite the fact that the original text explicitly states that angels are asexual. But the 'shippers are going to love it. It's going to remind them of every lovely fanfic they've written these last four years. asexual and homoromantic, open your mind to new possibilities friend
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Fun second season, bring on more Demon on Angel action
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1 posted:It's very possible my brain just slid over the errors until they started jumping out at me halfway through! It would be nice if there was, I dunno, some sort of document which contained all the dialogue said in an episode that could be given to the subtitler to help them out with difficult words or unclear speech, but I guess that's just a crazy idea. Yeah I mean, it's weird, in the first couple of episodes the subtitles seemed unusually good; there was one gag where Aziraphale was like "you have to say it capitalized" and the subtitles dutifully had the word capitalized, even before he said it. I was ready to say "these subtitles are great". And then that scene with the zombies saying "I guess that's dinner then" became "I've got enough oxygen" or something lmao
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It was a good choice to have more Jon Hamm in this. Two eps in, seems like the season arc is gonna be about hot angel on demon action. edit: and completely forsaking the children from the first season. The smaller cast is already helping substantially with the show's focus. CatstropheWaitress fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Aug 7, 2023 |
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