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Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength
Sounds like this should be extremely my poo poo, I'm in.

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Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

Jack2142 posted:

Reading about the Inca, and while I knew they had developed an Empire, I didn't realize how quickly it arose in the mid 1400's.

I see you are not an EU4 player. (Global-scope historical strategy game spanning the years 1444 to 1820 where basically any organized political state that existed in the timeframe is playable; one of the more interesting underdog type campaigns is to start out as one of the rising New World powers and try to grow strong enough to resist the Europeans when they come knocking.)

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Yeah, I was hoping for more discussion but I'm assuming everyone is just sortof responding with stunned silence.


My favorite section overall is probably the one about how the entire Amazon isn't a wild forest: it's a planted orchard.

Yah. Humans get everywhere and meddle with everything. Of loving course they did so in the Americas before Columbus, too.

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

Alhazred posted:

That sections blew my mind. I've always thought of the Amazon as untouched forest, not a post-apocalyptic wilderness. I also liked how pedantic Mann was about the definition of the Amazon.

Yep.

I pretty much knew already about the scale of pre-contact societies in Mesoamerica and the Andes but the Amazon stuff was new to me.

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength
Also pretty interesting to see some detail about how some other areas weren't overwhelmed by European settlers until a great deal later; like New England where the combination of epidemics and other unfortunate sequences of events among the natives with the influx of settlers who had the numbers and organizational capability to exploit the situation happened over 100 years after the fall of the Mesoamerican and Andean native civilizations.

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Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

PittTheElder posted:

1493 goes into this in detail; one takeaway is that using imported military POWs as slave labour is a great way to have well organized slave revolts.

Funny, that.

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