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Athanatos posted:It's beautiful, it's fantastic. Much love for the time it took to put this thread together. Goldmine this thread and ban the salty posters.
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being impressed by Brady’s career is like being impressed that a guy got straight A’s even though he has the answers to all the tests
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Metapod posted:Its ashame the model was bad and disqualified the real goat Vince Young Percentage of games he won where team he was on won the game: 100% 
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Dutchy posted:I'm proud to say I hold my sports grudges till death Elway is the only one I still hang on to, gently caress that guy until long after the earth is consumed by solar fire.
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Vince Young had the greatest two minute drill I've ever seen. I wish I could remember the game.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Vince Young had the greatest two minute drill I've ever seen. I wish I could remember the game. that game owned especially hard since the media had done everything but crown USC the champions even before the game was played.
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Aug 16, 2019 17:27
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This was actually an NFL game.
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Ehud posted:tom brady is a kid kisser who cheats at football
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:This was actually an NFL game. Was it also against the Cards when Leinart was filling in for Warner in one game in 2009? Cause I remember it being hilarious that Young did it to him again with a last second TD to Kenny Britt.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:This was actually an NFL game. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200911290oti.htm
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We need to figure out how to rate QBs on a Just Wins Games scale and have every QB with 50+ starts
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Fenrir posted:We need to figure out how to rate QBs on a Just Wins Games scale and have every QB with 50+ starts How can you possibly so this scale and leave out Tebow
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Fenrir posted:Elway is the only one I still hang on to, gently caress that guy until long after the earth is consumed by solar fire. I'm mellowing on him since he cant find a quarterback and the Broncos will never fire him
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Bob Socko posted:Please use the picture of Tom Brady Shaffness fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Aug 16, 2019 |
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Aug 16, 2019 19:15
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Tom Brady may or may not have had Jeffrey Epstein killed.
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Close the thread now so there's ambiguity as to who the GOAT is.
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Can we get a top 10 of all the splits? I didn't catch who played better with bad defenses than Brady
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mastershakeman posted:Can we get a top 10 of all the splits? I didn't catch who played better with bad defenses than Brady quote:9. Daryle Lamonica* (Buffalo Bills 1963-1966, Oakland Raiders 1967-1974)
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Ah ok Still it'd be nice to see top 10 winning % with good and bad defenses and % of games with good defensss. Could do it manually but I assume the spreadsheet can dump it out instantly
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The br*dy post is sufficient and I hope our wise and beneficient OP does not add a full length version. His misdeeds are already sufficiently notorious.
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If you're curious about some of the overall numbers, I'll be throwing them up in some later posts. Percentage of Games with Good Defensive Rankings 1. Terry Bradshaw 72.00% 2. Jim McMahon 70.30% 3. Russell Wilson 68.52% 4. Roger Staubach 68.22% 5. Donovan McNabb 67.05% 6. Ben Roethlisberger 66.97% 7. Ron Jaworski 65.58% 8. Troy Aikman 65.29% 9. Alex Smith 64.97% 10. Joe Montana 63.78% 11. Phil Simms 63.69% 12. Tom Brady 63.51% 13. Joe Theismann 62.88% 14. Brad Johnson 62.12% 15. Jake Delhomme 61.68% 16. Bob Griese 61.59% 17. Craig Morton 61.54% 18. Steve Young 61.18% 19. Trent Dilfer 60.68% 20. Jay Schroeder 60.40% 21. John Elway 59.67% 22. Jim Harbaugh 59.57% 23. Joe Flacco 59.52% 24. Doug Williams 58.89% 25. Len Dawson 58.41% 26. Steve McNair 57.96% 27. Andy Dalton 57.66% 28. Dave Krieg 57.53% 29. Drew Bledsoe 57.36% 30. Danny White 56.86% 31. Aaron Rodgers 55.77% 32. Jim Kelly 55.43% 33. Roman Gabriel 55.22% 34. Neil O'Donnell 55.14% 35. Tony Romo 54.96% 36. Dan Marino 54.86% 37. Brett Favre 54.57% 38. Cam Newton 54.31% 39. Ken Anderson 54.07% 40. Kerry Collins 53.97% 41. Bobby Hebert 53.27% 42. Ken Stabler 53.21% 43. Mark Brunell 53.16% 44. Jake Plummer 53.15% 45. Ken O'Brien 52.99% 46. Philip Rivers 52.74% 47. Daryle Lamonica 52.69% 48. Peyton Manning 52.26% 49. Brian Sipe 52.25% 50. Kurt Warner 51.97% 51t. Fran Tarkenton 51.89% 51t. Steve Beuerlein 51.89% 53. Vinny Testaverde 51.64% 54. Warren Moon 51.43% 55. Jim Plunkett 51.30% 56. Billy Kilmer 51.26% 57. Joe Ferguson 51.18% 58. Matt Hasselbeck 50.89% 59. Rich Gannon 50.74% 60. Randall Cunningham 50.71% 61. Matt Ryan 50.60% 62. Greg Landry 50.52% 63. Bernie Kosar 50.44% 64t. Jay Cutler 50.00% 64t. Steve Bartkowski 50.00% 66. Ryan Fitzpatrick 49.19% 67. Chris Chandler 48.61% 68. Steve Grogan 48.55% 69. Richard Todd 48.11% 70. Carson Palmer 47.80% 71. John Hadl 47.48% 72. Michael Vick 47.37% 73. Jeff Garcia 47.11% 74. Eli Manning 46.46% 75. Tommy Kramer 46.02% 76. Jim Hart 45.56% 77. Gus Frerotte 45.26% 78. Lynn Dickey 44.62% 79. Drew Brees 44.19% 80. Boomer Esiason 44.19% 81t. Dan Fouts 44.00% 81t. Dan Pastorini 44.00% 83. Jim Everett 42.77% 84. Bert Jones 42.71% 85. Aaron Brooks 42.39% 86t. Matt Schaub 41.94% 86t. Chris Miller 41.94% 88. Matthew Stafford 41.73% 89. John Brodie 40.43% 90. Steve DeBerg 40.38% 91. Daunte Culpepper 40.00% 92. Neil Lomax 39.81% 93. Jon Kitna 39.39% 94. Trent Green 38.79% 95. Jeff George 38.02% 96. Archie Manning 37.88% 97. Norm Snead 37.37% 98. Sonny Jurgensen 37.04% 99. Jim Zorn 36.54% 100. Joe Namath 36.51% 101. Marc Bulger 35.87% 102. Jeff Blake 32.32%
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sean10mm posted:I thought the top of the list would have guys we've actually heard of pushing .600 or something with a definition that loose, but lolnope,
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I've... made a few adjustments. 9: Daryle Lamonica: We've discussed the Mad Bomber a bit as this list progressed, and him ending up high on the list both is and isn't a surprise... Not that I expected him to be 2nd, or even top 10 with the adjustment. It speaks more to the greatness of the Raiders overall, and while Lamonica was a very good fit for the team in those years, he was very much a guy who really couldn't transcend eras like many of the other dudes on this list. 1: Peyton Manning: gently caress Tony Dungy for being hyper conservative with running this team. gently caress Bill Polian for mediocre draft after draft and his only free agent signing for a decade being a kicker (Granted, Vinatieri...). gently caress John Fox for deciding that "Yeah, we don't need to worry about Seahawks fans being loud" or prepping for playoff games. gently caress the entire New Orleans Saints organization. Mike Scifres and Darren Sproles... you guys are still cool, but gently caress Dungy again for play calling in that game. gently caress God for deciding that Bob Sanders needed to be injured constantly, turning the Colts from the best defense in the NFL with him to Swiss cheese that any goon could run over without him. Double gently caress Mike Vanderjagt for everything. Okay... Now that I got all of that out of my system... Manning was awesome, and the Colts offense of the mid-2000's was the most fun thing I've ever seen. They got hosed over by going cold from rest in 2005, while the 2007 team died from injuries. I originally had a much longer effort post in mind, but I worked OT today so  Peyton is the best. gently caress the rest.ADJUSTED 666: T*m Br*dy: Br*dy's actions and ideology are almost universally regarded as gravely immoral; according to historians, "Never in history has such ruination—physical and moral—been associated with the name of one man," and his actions inflicted human suffering on an unprecedented scale. Historians, philosophers, and politicians often use the word "evil" to describe the Patriots regime. Many countries have criminalized both the promotion of the Patriots and cheating denial. Only a few fringe racist groups, usually referred to as Patriots fans, remain as followers of Br*dy, as he promoted racism, xenophobia, ableism, homophobia, antisemitism, misogyny, Holocaust denial, pedophilia, child pornography, coprophilia, bestiality, necrophilia, hate speech, the 9/11 terrorist attacks, Donald Trump, ICE, Moon landing conspiracy theories, the remaking of classic Disney movies, climate change denial, and segregation. I hope he dies. Painfully. Slowly. The 2008 NFL season was maybe the most enjoyable for me as an NFL fan because this piece of human garbage died in the first quarter of the first game. Bernard Pollard should be put in the Hall of Fame right this second. Remember when Br*dy got in a fender bender in training camp a few years back, but for an hour or so everyone was just reporting "TAWMY WAS IN A CAH ACCIDENT"? I was praying that he was decapitated. I was legitimately disappointed that he wasn't hurt. If only one person gets outed by some leftover Epstein documents, I hope it's him. I'd be perfectly fine with the entire Boston region getting hit by a thermonuclear device so long as Brady is among the dead. Nuclear winter is a small price to pay for me enjoying football again. gently caress the Patriots.
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Fenrir posted:Yeah I thought the same thing. But it goes to show how important it is to have a good defense when all but two of the best quarterbacks in history have losing records whenever their teams give up any more than 23 or 24 points. (And if your offense can't score 24 you might as well stay home if Peyton is in town, holy poo poo) And that sub .500 record includes games where your team just goes score crazy and stops caring on defense. Of course, it also ignores games where the offense / ST gives up points too, but at least those last two scenarios are probably lower then say, Peyton or Brady's defenses giving up some who cares touchdowns up 20 in the 4th.
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Ranking by Team NFC West 49ers 3. Joe Montana (2.441) 7. Steve Young (2.198) 27. John Brodie (1.071) 63. Jim Plunkett (0.286) 70. Alex Smith (0.091) 72. Jeff Garcia (0.075) 98. Steve DeBerg (-1.055) Rams 11. Kurt Warner (1.873) 43. Roman Gabriel (0.653) 53. Marc Bulger (0.475) 90. Jim Everett (-0.602) 101. Chris Miller (-1.335) Cardinals 11. Kurt Warner (1.873) 50. Carson Palmer (0.568) 57. Neil Lomax (0.368) 62. Jim Hart (0.294) 75. Jake Plummer (-0.025) 77. Chris Chandler (-0.117) 87. Steve Beuerlein (-0.530) Seahawks 17. Russell Wilson (1.511) 42. Matt Hasselbeck (0.719) 55. Dave Krieg (0.379) 71. Warren Moon (0.051) 78. Jim Zorn (-0.211) 96. Jon Kitna (-0.865) NFC South Saints 8. Ken Stabler (2.174) 14. Drew Brees (1.777) 46. Bobby Hebert (0.610) 52. Billy Kilmer (0.476) 85. Aaron Brooks (-0.414) 90. Jim Everett (-0.602) 102. Archie Manning (-2.886) Panthers 37. Cam Newton (0.840) 51. Jake Delhomme (0.483) 87. Steve Beuerlein (-0.530) 91. Kerry Collins (-0.713) Falcons 18. Matt Ryan (1.464) 34. Michael Vick (0.890) 46. Bobby Hebert (0.610) 77. Chris Chandler (-0.117) 84. Steve Bartowski (-0.413) 100. Jeff George (-1.162) 101. Chris Miller (-1.335) Buccaneers 7. Steve Young (2.198) 41. Brad Johnson (0.722) 72. Jeff Garcia (0.075) 81. Trent Dilfer (-0.261) 82. Doug Williams (-0.270) 94. Vinny Testaverde (-0.841) 98. Steve DeBerg (-1.055) NFC North Packers 5. Aaron Rodgers (2.248) 13. Brett Favre (1.795) 88. Lynn Dickey (-0.533) Vikings 13. Brett Favre (1.795) 19. Randall Cunningham (1.457) 22. Rich Gannon (1.234) 25. Fran Tarkenton (1.157) 41. Brad Johnson (0.722) 56. Tommy Kramer (0.375) 71. Warren Moon (0.081) 83. Daunte Culpepper (-0.282) Lions 54. Matt Stafford (0.412) 89. Greg Landry (-0.586) 96. Jon Kitna (-0.865) Bears 36. Jim McMahon (0.875) (1.705 unadjusted) 67. Jay Cutler (0.165) 93. Jim Harbaugh (-0.790) NFC East Redskins 23. Sonny Jurgensen (1.219) 30t. Joe Theismann (1.056) 30t. Jay Schroeder (1.056) 41. Brad Johnson (0.722) 52. Billy Kilmer (0.476) 58. Gus Frerotte (0.367) 60. Mark Brunell (0.350) 82. Doug Williams (-0.270) Cowboys 4. Danny White (2.441) 6. Roger Staubach (2.224) 16. Tony Romo (1.523) 39. Troy Aikman (0.748) 61. Craig Morton (0.342) 80. Drew Bledsoe (-0.253) Eagles 19. Randall Cunningham (1.457) 34. Michael Vick (0.890) 43. Roman Gabriel (0.653) 49. Donovan McNabb (0.591) 95. Ron Jaworski (-0.841) 97. Norm Snead (-1.028) Giants 25. Fran Tarkenton (1.157) 35. Eli Manning (0.884) 44. Phil Simms (0.639) 61. Craig Morton (0.342) 91. Kerry Collins (-0.713) 97. Norm Snead (-1.028) AFC West Broncos 2. Peyton Manning (3.065) 10. John Elway (1.957) 61. Craig Morton (0.342) 67. Jay Cutler (0.165) 75. Jake Plummer (-0.025) Chiefs 3. Joe Montana (2.441) 20. Len Dawson (1.451) 22. Rich Gannon (1.234) 38. Trent Green (0.821) 55. Dave Krieg (0.379) 70. Alex Smith (0.091) 71. Warren Moon (0.081) 98. Steve DeBerg (-1.055) Chargers 14. Drew Brees (1.777) 40. Dan Fouts (0.738) 45. Philip Rivers (0.614) 65. John Hadl (0.238) 93. Jim Harbaugh (-0.790) Raiders 8. Ken Stabler (2.174) 9. Daryle Lamonica (2.148) 22. Rich Gannon (1.234) 30t. Jay Schroeder (1.056) 50. Carson Palmer (0.568) 63. Jim Plunkett (0.286) 91. Kerry Collins (-0.713) 100. Jeff George (-1.162) AFC South Colts 2. Peyton Manning (3.065) 66. Bert Jones (0.218) 93. Jim Harbaugh (-0.790) 100. Jeff George (-1.162) Texans 48. Matt Schaub (0.591) (1.266 unadjusted) Jaguars 60. Mark Brunell (0.350) Titans/Oilers 8. Ken Stabler (2.174) 29. Steve McNair (1.064) 42. Matt Hasselbeck (0.719) 71. Warren Moon (0.081) 73. Dan Pastorini (0.051) 77. Chris Chandler (-0.117) 91. Kerry Collins (-0.713) AFC North Steelers 15. Ben Roethlisberger (1.539) 24. Terry Bradshaw (1.186) 59. Neil O'Donnell (0.362) Bengals 47. Andy Dalton (0.608) 50. Carson Palmer (0.568) 64. Boomer Esiason (0.260) 68. Ken Anderson (0.147) 76. Jeff Blake (-0.110) 96. Jon Kitna (-0.865) Browns 69. Brian Sipe (0.115) 74. Bernie Kosar (0.000) 94. Vinny Testaverde (-0.841) Ravens 26. Joe Flacco (1.086) 29. Steve McNair (1.064) 81. Trent Dilfer (-0.261) 94. Vinny Testaverde (-0.841) AFC East Dolphins 21. Dan Marino (1.407) 28. Bob Griese (1.069) Bills 12. Jim Kelly (1.841) 80. Drew Bledsoe (-0.253) 86. Joe Ferguson (-0.507) Jets 32. Joe Namath (1.002) 59. Neil O'Donnell (0.362) 64. Boomer Esiason (0.260) 79. Richard Todd (-0.249) 92. Ken O'Brien (-0.743) 94. Vinny Testaverde (-0.841) Patriots 1. Tom Brady (3.532) 33. Steve Grogan (0.989) 63. Jim Plunkett (0.286) 80. Drew Bledsoe (-0.253) Renegades: 58. Gus Frerotte (0.367) (Redskins, Lions, Broncos, Bengals, Vikings, Dolphins, Rams) 99. Ryan Fitzpatrick (-1.123) (Rams, Bengals, Bills, Titans, Texans, Jets and Bucs)
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This is an excellent thread ranking the QBs who cheat like all hell in every possible way yet still lost in the Super Bowl to Eli Manning, twice.
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By the way, as much as the Packers and 49ers fans catch poo poo for our teams having two great QBs back to back, can we get a gently caress The Cowboys here? 3 of the top 20 along with Troy "textbook case of guy elected to the Hall because RINGZ" Aikman.
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Fenrir posted:By the way, as much as the Packers and 49ers fans catch poo poo for our teams having two great QBs back to back, can we get a gently caress The Cowboys here? 3 of the top 20 along with Troy "textbook case of guy elected to the Hall because RINGZ" Aikman. I got you, fam. gently caress the Cowboys.
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fartknocker posted:I've... made a few adjustments. I'm pretty convinced the football gods will continue to allow Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr to play forever as long as fans continue to wish serious harm upon him. The evidence is adding up.
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Just look at his vacant, soulless eyes. Clearly the only thing he has left to long for is the silent void of nothingness. Perpetual life would be the cruelest, and thus most appropriate, punishment.
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the true secret deal Brady made is that he gets to remain at the age of 35 as long as he continues playing, but upon retirement will instantly revert into a pile of dust as part of the deal he was also 35 when he was 25
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Logicblade posted:Ranking by Team I love how Joey Harrington doesn't even make this list.
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Android Apocalypse posted:I love how Joey Harrington doesn't even make this list. He didn't start enough games, but would have probably been up there with Kitna. Remember when 3-13 was a bad season for Harrington? They had no idea what was coming after they ditched him! defaultluser fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Aug 17, 2019 |
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Phenomenal thread. Sad to have it done, I wish it could just go on forever...
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Recursive posted:Phenomenal thread. Sad to have it done, I wish it could just go on forever... Quality username/post combo
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Probable Additions in coming years: Andrew Luck (Indianapolis Colts 2012-Current) If I had taken the data points at the end of the 2018 season, Luck would have qualifyed with his 86 regular season starts and 8 post season starts. Luck has been to the postseason in four of his six years, and the defenses he had early in his career have been roughly non-existent. Luck still has a lot of years to go left in his career, one would assume, and the team around him is growing in talent. Luck has a lot of potential to scrape into the top 20 of this list, if not grow even further past it. Dude just wins the games. Ryan Tannehill (Miami Dolphins 2012-2018, Tennessee Titans Current) Ryan Tannehill has 88 regular season starts unadjusted, and is playing behind Marcus Mariota, a QB who has not played a full season in his four year career. It is quite likely that Tannehill gets to 90 starts, and he could easily do so this season. Tannehill has not been quite as successful as his runningmates in the 2012 draft, he hasn't won a super bowl like Wilson or Foles (or carried to one like Brock Osweiler), and he isn't putting up Luck's or Kirk Cousins' numbers either. The Dolphins may not have been impressive with him on the field, but Tannehill has shown he can at least play at an average starter level, and that's about where I'd expect him to be before crunching any numbers. Derek Carr (Oakland Raiders 2014-Current) Carr has 74 starts under his belt, and provided things go well with Jon Gruden, he could get up to 90 by the end of the season. He's missed three games in his career due to a injury late in 2016 that also ended the Raiders playoff chances that season. Jon Gruden has also never met a QB he liked since Rich Gannon, so there's a very fair chance that his relationship will go sour soon. Carr only has one winning season in his career, and his team has been in two separate rebuilding phases since he started there, so it's not likely that he'll show up highly on this list. The Raiders still look miserable. Kirk Cousins (Washington Redskins 2012-2017, Minnesota Vikings 2018-Current) Kirk Cousins has 73 NFL Starts, and is in year 2 of his three year guaranteed contract with the Vikings. They can't get rid of him, and to be honest they probably shouldn't. Cousins puts up numbers every year, but the big slight against him is that his teams always tend to finish 7th or 8th in the NFC, rather than at least 6th and warm and cozy in the playoffs. Cousins has avoided injury his entire career, including playing in the hell that is Washington's stadium, and he'll only be 31 when the season starts, so he likely has another contract coming after his time in Minnesota. So Close, and yet so Far: Jeff Hostetler (New York Giants 1984-1992, Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders 1993-1996, Washington Redskins 1997-1998) With 83 regular season starts, and 6 postseason starts, Hostetler was this close to actually qualifying for the list. However even with adjustments, he fell just short of the mark. The starting QB for the Giants in 1990 super bowl against the Bills, Hostetler spent most of his time as Simms' backup and it took 9 years and the advent of real Free Agency to get him onto a team where he could start full time. Hostetler was very effective as an efficient passer for four seasons in Oakland before going to Washington to take a big contract and get benched after three games. Hostetler definitely left a mark on the NFL, he was just stuck behind the skid mark that is Phil Simms. Kordell Stewart (Pittsburgh Steelers 1995-2002, Chicago Bears 2003, Baltimore Ravens 2004-2005) The man formerly known as Slash, Kordell did everything. QB / RB / WR/ KR / DB? Put him on the field and he'd make magic happen. That was the conceit anyway, but Stewart was not a very good passer and despite his high athleticism, he just didn't have what it took to dominate the field around him. The Steelers surrounded him with the Bus and some great defenses so he was able to make a few postseason appearances, but threw 2 TDs to 8 INTs in 4 games and was a sub 56% passer for his career. Chad Pennington (New York Jets 2000-2007, Miami Dolphins 2008-2010) Chad Pennington was a two time comeback player of the year, which sort of tells you a lot about his condition. If he played in an even numbered year, he tended to do well. If he played in an odd numbered year, he was probably injured and playing, or on the IR by the halfway point of the season. Pennington is also the only other QB to win the AFC East in the Tom Brady era, winning in 2002 and 2008. He was the QB when the wildcat was introduced, and he's probably most famous for having a noodle for an arm. Still he had an effective career when he could stay on the field, and I'd be interested to see where he would have ended up on this list. He had 81 regular season and 6 post season starts. David Carr (Houston Texans 2002-2006, Carolina Panthers 2007, New York Giants 2008-2009, San Francisco 49ers 2010, New York Giants 2011-2012) The older Carr brother, David was the very first pick of the Houston Texans, taken first overall in 2002. He looked like a stud in college, but the Texans forgot to give him any sort of protection whatsoever, so he spent his time getting sacked repeatedly until he was too gun shy to QB properly. He ended up bouncing around the league as a backup, and even managed to get a ring as a member of the New York Giants in 2011. He's known as one of the biggest busts of the modern draft era, and for good reason. It would have been interesting to see just how far down he would be on this list. The Longshots: Sam Bradford (St. Louis Rams 2010-2014, Philadelphia Eagles 2015, Minnesota Vikings 2016-2017, Arizona Cardinals 2018) Sam Bradford has never met a franchise he couldn't rob of their hard earned cash. After winning rookie of the year in 2010 (somehow), teams thought he was good, and that mindset did not seem to change until 2018, despite all of the evidence otherwise. Bradford struggled with injuries, struggled with throws deeper than five yards, and yet because he was drafted first overall he got opprtunity after opportunity until he managed to procure 83 starts in 9 seasons. The Cardinals cut ties with him early just to save a few million dollars in cap room, and he's been floating as a free agent ever since. He's probably waiting for another team to get desperate and fleece them out of 20 million a year. Of course, he'll probably never play again if he demands that much money. Blake Bortles (Jacksonville Jaguars 2014-2018, Los Angeles Rams Current) Blake Bortles managed to start 74 straight games (including playoffs) for the Jaguars between 2014 and 2018, but the Jaguars only had one winning season with him at the helm, and needed to move on from the QB who liked partying and throwing it deep too much to take a cursed franchise to the next step. Bortles seems unlikely to get playing time behind Jared Goff, but a stint in Los Angeles could be the trick to spur his development into a QB who isn't so hot and cold all the time. Or he could spend the rest of his days as a backup and get mad bank to chill on the bench and occasionally give a mean pep talk about his Book Club.
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