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Cockmaster
Feb 24, 2002

VitalSigns posted:

You don't think motivation behind an action matters at all?
I guess all surgeons are violent criminals then, look at all the people they cut with knives!

Are there really that many lawyers whose career goals explicitly include helping rich assholes get away with horrible crimes?

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Cockmaster
Feb 24, 2002

RasperFat posted:

Speaking of prosecutors, have we dipped our toes in their morally nebulous pool yet?

Prosecutors have basically chosen the police as their clients, and having the highest conviction rate possible is a career goal.


Which is probably the #1 reason not to get into the habit of shaming criminal defense lawyers for doing their job.

Cockmaster
Feb 24, 2002

MixMastaTJ posted:

Our legal system is fundamentally hosed up mainly because our focus is on petty revenge and subjugation of the lower class. That's not a philosophical issue with adversarial legal systems rather our specific penal codes.

That and the fact that positions of authority in general have virtually always attracted power-hungry psychopaths.

Cockmaster
Feb 24, 2002

Woozy posted:

You're all morons. He's not guilty yet so there's no reason to worry about who's defending him.

Exactly. To say that private defense attorneys ought to reject Weinstein (or anyone else) on the grounds of moral outrage over the alleged crime is to declare him guilty without a trial. Which, according to the legal system of every society worth living in, is a major no-no.

Not to mention that complaining about high-priced private defense attorneys will do precisely fuckall to reform the public defender system.

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