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Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

Vampire Panties posted:

:ssh: its also a callback to the book, because drawing out complicated comic book pages is a time-consuming pain in the rear end

Oh yeah I know, that’s a great page and they do a good sendup of it.

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mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

roomtone posted:

i dunno, sorry, i'm drunk. i'll come back in the morning and either explain or take my comments back.

Hell yeah :justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost::justpost:

The Bee
Nov 25, 2012

Making his way to the ring . . .
from Deep in the Jungle . . .

The Big Monkey!
The season doesn't really have a strong plot throughline, imo. However, it's thematic throughline is pretty strong and clear. Everyone, from physical gods to alien experiments to wayward strangers to the simplest, lowliest humans, is looking deep inside themselves after their life was turned on its head and going "so who am I, really?"

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

The Bee posted:

The season doesn't really have a strong plot throughline, imo. However, it's thematic throughline is pretty strong and clear. Everyone, from physical gods to alien experiments to wayward strangers to the simplest, lowliest humans, is looking deep inside themselves after their life was turned on its head and going "so who am I, really?"

I just feel like that's most shows, in the same way most shows are about (either literal or found) family.

And, as you say, it doesn't actually absolve the show of having a weak narrative structure -- as opposed to the previous season, which also trucked in themes of identity.

Waffleopolis
Apr 24, 2005

It's time....for the MAIN event!
Tonight is Adult Swim's annual April Fools event. Last year previewed upcoming stuff and did AI gags.

I hope it's good.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
gently caress, I missed the start of it. Have they been doing Smiling Friends?

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



MJeff posted:

gently caress, I missed the start of it. Have they been doing Smiling Friends?

Yeah, a few season 1 eps redone with various types of puppets, plus a new episode from season 2 about an old video game character from some long-forgotten PS1 franchise falling on hard times in 2024. Guy is nothing but pixilated polygons with "clothes" textured onto his body. It rules.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

I. M. Gei posted:

Yeah, a few season 1 eps redone with various types of puppets, plus a new episode from season 2 about an old video game character from some long-forgotten PS1 franchise falling on hard times in 2024. Guy is nothing but pixilated polygons with "clothes" textured onto his body. It rules.

gaaaaaaah I'm so pissed I missed that, it looks like the season won't start for real until next month. I hope they put the season 2 episode on Max at least.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

MJeff posted:

gaaaaaaah I'm so pissed I missed that, it looks like the season won't start for real until next month. I hope they put the season 2 episode on Max at least.

they put them up on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFtKlgFpfd4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGoLnyMHnD4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNs83FK0zB8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIb0SL4Dih4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sOcyFXXLHg

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

lol they got erica lindbeck to play herself.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

dirTy brown waTer

Turpitude
Oct 13, 2004

Love love love

be an organ donor
Soiled Meat
today's intro to Delicious in Dungeon kicks rear end

Spiteski
Aug 27, 2013



Spiteski posted:

So I'm watching scavengers reign and the art style is really evocative of a concept artist I stumbled across a few years back that I can't find again. Hoping someone might have seen it and know who I'm talking about.
The art was themed around tribes in a sci-fi/sci-fantasy world and there were a lot of vehicles of a similar theme - full sphere wheel bikes, wind skiffs, and the like. I also distinctly remember a piece where there were sort of cavalry mounted on bugs that looked like they'd fit right into scav.

Goddamn I found it!

It was less monstrous then I was remembering, but it was TRIBAL from Darren Bartley

Nowher
Nov 29, 2019

pack your bags

Spiteski posted:

Goddamn I found it!

It was less monstrous then I was remembering, but it was TRIBAL from Darren Bartley

I just started reading this thread since I finished watching scavengers reign. That guy's art is so very cool. Love it.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
lmfao this Gilbert Gottfried episode of Royal Crackers.

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
Nap Ghost

Turpitude posted:

today's intro to Delicious in Dungeon kicks rear end

:hmmyes: I dont even know why I'm hooked on this show I dont usually like anime and the premise is weird as gently caress

Olanphonia
Jul 27, 2006

I'm open to suggestions~

Vampire Panties posted:

:hmmyes: I dont even know why I'm hooked on this show I dont usually like anime and the premise is weird as gently caress

It's because, anime or not, delicious in dungeon whips rear end

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

Turpitude posted:

today's intro to Delicious in Dungeon kicks rear end

I preferred the original one.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Vandar posted:

This looks neat, so I'll bite. Why did they do Primal parodies?

My dream for the Simpsons is for them to go all in on these kinds of alternate interpretations. Like when they let couch gags get wild but whole episodes.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Royal Crackers owns. Binged the first season and laughed a lot.

It's one of those shows with very specific references and observations outside the typical wheelhouse for even this kind of thing, like the Ram Dass joke, or the terrorist Mormors Knafeh. Love that poo poo.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Vandar posted:

This looks neat, so I'll bite. Why did they do Primal parodies?

I read somewhere that they changed how Simpsons episodes are written, it used to be the whole writers room and now its one or two writers who shepherd an episode, which is more how cartoons like Adventure Time operated. The benefit of that is you get more out there episodes that are the product of a couple of writers interests, instead of a homogenized but consistent product.

I'll take the individual approach after so many season of a consistently mediocre product.

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

Ccs posted:

I read somewhere that they changed how Simpsons episodes are written, it used to be the whole writers room and now its one or two writers who shepherd an episode, which is more how cartoons like Adventure Time operated. The benefit of that is you get more out there episodes that are the product of a couple of writers interests, instead of a homogenized but consistent product.

I'll take the individual approach after so many season of a consistently mediocre product.

It changes nothing. If I want to watch Primal, I'll just watch primal, not some lovely Simpson themed version of Primal. Its also not something new. They did the same poo poo with Game of Thrones and Death Note, and I'm sure a bunch of other media. There is no redemption for Simpsons. Even if somebody did something cool, it'd probably be way better without using the corpse of The Simpsons. Its just a waste of effort to do it via The Simpsons.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Ccs posted:

I read somewhere that they changed how Simpsons episodes are written, it used to be the whole writers room and now its one or two writers who shepherd an episode, which is more how cartoons like Adventure Time operated. The benefit of that is you get more out there episodes that are the product of a couple of writers interests, instead of a homogenized but consistent product.

I'll take the individual approach after so many season of a consistently mediocre product.

It also helps that Al Jean is no longer the sole showrunner which he was from season 13 to 31 (so basically all of the bad years.)

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe

Khanstant posted:

My dream for the Simpsons is for them to go all in on these kinds of alternate interpretations. Like when they let couch gags get wild but whole episodes.

My dream for the Simpsons is for it to end.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
No way, at the very least it deserves to outlive all of Seth McFarlanes cartoons.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem
Family Guy is basically pre-made for TikTok and Twitter, I don't think it'll die until microblogging itself ends.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Well, the story I read was that the switch in how they handle their writers room means there's a bigger difference than ever between good and bad episodes. For a few seasons it was rare to see anything above a 7/10 on imdb. Then Season 33 and 34 had a few episodes above an 8, but along with that season 34 also had the most episode below a 6/10 in the series history. But season 35 is back to mostly 6/10s, with the occasional 7/10. So i suppose its still squarely in the "eh, I guess" territory.

FireWorksWell
Nov 27, 2014

Let's go do some hero shit!


Khanstant posted:

No way, at the very least it deserves to outlive all of Seth McFarlanes cartoons.

American Dad's been solid for at least as long as the Simpsons' good seasons and hasn't really showed any signs of declining in the last couple years.

Family Guy had a good run before it was uncancelled but any time I've tried to watch a more recent episode of that it's just too mean spirited and not particularly funny to me, though.

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?

Khanstant posted:

No way, at the very least it deserves to outlive all of Seth McFarlanes cartoons.

There are more good seasons of American Dad than there were good seasons of The Simpsons.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

IShallRiseAgain posted:

It changes nothing. If I want to watch Primal, I'll just watch primal, not some lovely Simpson themed version of Primal. Its also not something new. They did the same poo poo with Game of Thrones and Death Note, and I'm sure a bunch of other media. There is no redemption for Simpsons. Even if somebody did something cool, it'd probably be way better without using the corpse of The Simpsons. Its just a waste of effort to do it via The Simpsons.

It's not as if they're straight 1:1 versions. They parodies same as what The Simpsons has always done. It's not supposed to be a replacement any more than Robot Chicken or Phineas and Ferb or Family Guy replaces Star Wars because each of them did parodies on that. If you don't like parodies, just say so.

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?
The Simpsons parodies aren't usually very interesting for the most part so maybe the problem is not the idea of parody and more that they lost their touch and the superficiality of it is too much to be funny.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem
There's parody and then there's the point where it's just a cartoon short with Simpsons theming that doesn't add anything.

mycot fucked around with this message at 05:38 on Apr 8, 2024

limp_cheese
Sep 10, 2007


Nothing to see here. Move along.

IT would be fun to see Primal with a woman cast as Spear.

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?
I don't think the Simpsons can or really should recover from their Elon Musk episode since that demonstrated that the show's bullshit detector was gone and thus their ability to satirize or speak truth was compromised.

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe

Neeksy posted:

I don't think the Simpsons can or really should recover from their Elon Musk episode since that demonstrated that the show's bullshit detector was gone and thus their ability to satirize or speak truth was compromised.

Yeah, a lot of people fail to realize that early Simpsons was good because Matt Groening was a bitter socialist who had sincere contempt for both America and it's institutions (especially the nuclear family, which sitcoms normally treated as sacrosanct). All of that perspective is long since gone now though, so what we're left with is some very mild surface-level critiques of obvious targets with an underlying worldview that ultimately supports and reinforces the systems of power the show was originally created to undermine. It's really sad to see.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


The characters just don't work in the modern world anymore. They're all archetypes of the 50s - 80s that were pretty anachronistic by the time the early 2000s rolled around, and now it's like watching someone try to make the Flintstones culturally relevant again. Just let it die.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

The characters just don't work in the modern world anymore. They're all archetypes of the 50s - 80s that were pretty anachronistic by the time the early 2000s rolled around, and now it's like watching someone try to make the Flintstones culturally relevant again. Just let it die.

This is how I feel about a lot of legacy characters / stories. Superman runs into this a lot, or at least the Daily Planet supporting cast do.

Nikumatic
Feb 13, 2012

a fantastic machine made of meat

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

it's like watching someone try to make the Flintstones culturally relevant again.

the 2016 flintstones comic is actually shockingly good at this.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


That is true, but it's also a far cry from the original cartoons. That's really the only way The Simpsons could be relevant again, to wait 50 years then do a full reboot (also like Jellystone did).

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DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?
I watched "A Serious Flanders" last night and had a really good time with it. The biggest advantage the Simpsons has right now is that their characters are so well-established that you can tell really efficient genre stories with them in limited runtimes. This is how things like The Shinning worked so well. I think "shallow 7 minute parody of a specific pop cultural artifact" is a dead end, but middle-form genre pastiche could be a really healthy venue, especially as an incubator for animators and writers.

It's also important to remember that The Simpsons is one of the only animated programs to be produced under WGA Guild conditions. If it went away, it'd be a huge setback for labor in the industry.

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