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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
in our time with melvyn bragg is pleasant and informative
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qykl/episodes/player

boonta vista socialist club is halfway between chapo, citations needed, and australia
https://soundcloud.com/boontavista

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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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i say swears online posted:

why isn't there a good UK politics podcast

novara

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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Atrocious Joe posted:

I actually think I just misspelled "zoological," which I assume means tracing white supremacy to enlightenment ideas of categorizing the world scientifically. This can then be used to justify exploitation of other "races" on the basis of "scientifically" determined inferiority, Like, I agree with that, but the slave trade and exploitation came before that conception was firmly established, and required the justification as it developed and grew.

But my misspelling may actually be the way the author used it. I don't know. I might actually buy their book now though to find out honestly.

one of the strands that produced white supremacy was applying the new technology of taxonomy to groups of people (ie the invention of race). if that's what they were talking about they sound correct as hell, thanks for the rec op

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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thank goodness, the only thing this thread was missing was shrieking about twitter

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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https://twitter.com/virgiltexas/status/1065020457764704256

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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quote:

This general perception feeds the weird victim mentality of magazines like Quillette, which they use to lend a bogus nobility to their various articles peddling right-wing pseudo-history and defending scientific racism. It is what has allowed the comedian Andrew Doyle to receive what must be, judging by the amount of coverage he has received recently in the British press, a pretty hefty advance for a book ostensibly authored by “Titania McGrath,” a sort of cack-handed parody of an online left-wing commentator — exactly the sort of person middle-aged men like to imagine is telling them they're not allowed to say whatever they want any more. And it is what led Angela Nagle, who used to be seen as being “of the left” before she started hanging out with alt-right YouTubers and voicing anti-immigration rhetoric in conservative magazines, to declare in Kill All Normies that “the politics of transgression” was no longer the purview of the left, but rather a resurgent and dynamic right.

According to Nagle, in the 1960s “transgression” was enshrined as a virtue by left liberals, who sought to profane and dismantle every stuffy hang-up and crusty preconception of a dully moralistic conservative establishment. Left-wing politics was thus lent a subversive thrill, joyfully energizing a vibrant counter-culture. But nowadays, what is stuffy and crusty is the PC left, who in Nagle's view are driving a young people to the right by moralizing about every little thing that, in the name of equality or compassion, we must or must not say.

By contrast, spaces like the /b/ board on 4chan, associated with the Pepe-posting culture of online Trump supporters, are the inheritors of a tradition which Nagle insists “can be traced” from the Marquis de Sade through Nietzsche and the surrealists to bell hooks: glorious niches of liberation, in which posters are free to shrug off the constraints of “imposed morality” and laugh at whatever the hell they want to, from suicide to disability. Thus /b/ ripples with what Nagle identifies as a “carnivalesque” laughter, “the laughter of all the people... universal in scope... directed at all and everyone, including the carnival's participants.”

But of course: the problem with this theory is that it is flatly and obviously false: a fantasy painted by a writer whose book is primarily interested in punching left, despite the MacGuffin of it purporting to be about understanding the right. Yes, some people identified with the “online left” can be heavy-handedly pious at times: but “the left” is also a spectrum that runs the gamut from the British Labour party to the IWW to crudely humorous podcasts like Chapo Trap House, which for better or worse can hardly be accused of sanctimonious moralizing.

[...]

In the case of 4chan, this is particularly striking: the “transgressive” behavior and language which Nagle identifies with /b/ precisely serves to demarcate the limits of a particular community. “/b/ is the guy who tells the cripple ahead of him in line to hurry up,” runs an anonymous poster's manifesto, as quoted by Nagle. “/b/ is the first to get to the window to see the car accident... /b/ is the best friend that tags along to your first date and cock-blocks throughout the night. The decent girl you're trying to bag walks out on the date, /b/ laughs and takes you home when you're drunk, and you wake up to several hookers in your house who /b/ called for you.”

If someone went on /b/ and did not act like the other posters do, did not use language in the way that they do, did not call everyone and everything by homophobic slurs, refused to hound the grieving families of teenage suicide victims, then they would simply not fit in. Thus /b/'s laughter cannot be what Nagle claims it is: the carnivalesque “laughter of all the people.” /b/'s laughter is only — as should have been obvious to everyone to begin with — the laughter of /b/. And if you wanted to share in it, as a member of the /b/ community, then you'd have to be careful not to transgress /b/'s norms. (More recent news, which broke after I’d written the bulk of this article, suggests to us that what communities like /b/ ultimately induce in the world at large is not raucous laughter, but mute horror.)

https://theoutline.com/post/7219/free-speech-debates-are-silly

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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the new premium chapo is good on borders, concentration camps, etc.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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https://twitter.com/Bro_Pair/status/1147175197436346374

lol

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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https://twitter.com/normal_now/status/1156027023942283266

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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good car takes in the newest chapo

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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universal basic services are where it's at

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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oh noooo

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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it's pretty funny how often adam and nima come across as being waaay more informed than their guest experts

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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Doc Hawkins posted:

aw man i had forgotten about greg proops :(

i am actually on an episode of the proopscast, as a moron in the live audience. the halcyon days of 2014.

i stopped listening after the nth time he argued marie antoinette got an unfair deal

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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žižek ep is good

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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friendlyjordies is bad

boonta vista is good

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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the latest boonta vista explores new frontiers in racism

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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plugging boonta vista yet again – they've got a good, chapoesque pace + level of prep

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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Crane Fist posted:

What are some good eps to start with?

this recent one is really good
https://soundcloud.com/boontavista/episode-124-i-cant-quilt-you

matt and will have been on a couple of times. i think i started with these, even tho they're ignorant amerikans
https://soundcloud.com/boontavista/episode-11-the-christman-school-of-linguistic-mimicry-featuring-cushbomb
https://soundcloud.com/boontavista/episode-78-trans-pacific-draft-day-featuring-willmenaker

this one has matt brady as a guest, and discusses one of australia's most cooked politicians
https://soundcloud.com/boontavista/episode-45-dark-latham-featuring-mattvbrady

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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change thread title to the podcast thread: parasocialist relationships

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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the founder of the dsa, talking about the politics of the dsa posted:

Put it this way. Marx was a democrat with a small "d". The Democratic Socialists envision a humane social order based on popular control of resources and production, economic planning [...] and racial equality. I share an immediate program with liberals in this country because the best liberalism leads toward socialism. [...] I want to be on the left wing of the possible.

yikes...

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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Ace of Baes posted:

edit: HJs outfit is the noose and black mask the kkk/Nazi cops use to almost murder him immediately before he becomes HJ knowing that he won't get justice as a cop, which happens after he tried to report a Nazi for torching a Jewish deli and the cops let him go as he's part of their racist secret society

this is heavily implied to be fred trump lol

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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the new citations needed is good

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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boonta vista update

https://twitter.com/IllyBocean/status/1203479007775227904

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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politics is downstream from culture and culture is downstream from politics. that's literally dialectics.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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technically it's called interpenetration :grin:

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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the last jedi is the best star wars movie. just my opinion.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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exmarx posted:

change thread title to the podcast thread: parasocialist relationships

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

ok. my last act as mod probably.

thankyou

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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https://twitter.com/AdamFriedland/status/1212238618074472448

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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https://www.twitch.tv/boontavista

boonta vista is doing a bushfires livestream and i think they're about to do a live waluigi tattoo

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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lol

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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Homeless Friend posted:

youtube is grimace inducing but breadtube, just the name alone, is truly cringe

it's genuinely psychotic if it's a ref to bread & roses

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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it was pretty funny when you could hear matt shaking with rage

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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add a beard to the cartoon on the left

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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i love a happy felix

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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all accents are fake

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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


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virgil called tulsi asian-american during the majority report stream…

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