|
Gaius Marius posted:Zodiac over There Will Be Blood is the single most insane take I've ever heard. Zodiac is a good thriller, TWBB is the greatest American movie of the century Neither of these two made it into Eberts top ten that year lol. Edit: I liked the Social Network pod cos it's a classic "both hosts just like the film pod" and that's fun. algebra testes fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Nov 4, 2023 |
#
?
Nov 4, 2023 05:58
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 9, 2024 07:15 |
|
|
I love how bad Ebert's taste is. That Into the Wild film is one of the worst films I've ever seen.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2023 06:04
|
|
|
Gaius Marius posted:I love how bad Ebert's taste is. That Into the Wild film is one of the worst films I've ever seen. Everything about that movie (and the book) makes me absolutely furious. I can’t even summarize it into a quip. It’s like the Mr. Burns’ diseases thing but with rage.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2023 06:11
|
|
|
Xiahou Dun posted:Everything about that movie (and the book) makes me absolutely furious. I feel the same way about that film as I do about the novel The Alchemist.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2023 06:20
|
|
|
The deal with Ebert is he is great at writing about film, the art of explaining what he liked and what he didnt like. But obviously the what he liked and didn't like could be pretty wrong a lot of the time.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2023 06:47
|
|
|
Yeah they really love Zodiac in the episode with talking about watching it everyday. I’m not sure it makes top 5 for me that year. It’s a really well made film and a good watch though. I guess the obsessive watching of it is pretty meta at least.
|
|
#
?
Nov 4, 2023 13:52
|
|
|
I think MEMORIES OF MURDER cover similar ground but in a way I preferred. Also, and I get this is just a me issue, I can't believe they put so much stock into Robert Graysmith and his questionable work. It wouldn't bother me as much if they didn't talk about how accurate they wanted the film to be (well as accurate as a work of fiction can be). I own ZODIAC (I even had it on hd-dvd) but there's something about it that leaves me cold every time I watch it. The first hour is masterfully done, but past that there's little meat on the bones.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2023 14:06
|
|
|
Oh my god that podcast opening for Girl.
|
|
#
?
Nov 6, 2023 11:03
|
|
|
I’m sure they’re right about how Girl with the Dragon Tattoo is a better looking film than the Swedish one (I can’t really remember what either one is like now because it’s been so long) but it’s still exactly the same story and it came out right after the original. I definitely remember feeling like I had wasted 2 hours after seeing the Fincher one.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2023 17:35
|
|
|
I disagree with them pretty strongly on the first hour of the movie. I don’t think it works at all to keep the leads apart for that long, especially because there is no sense that the two characters are on a collision course other than both of them being in the same movie. All the torture porn stuff feels perfunctory and only there for shock value, it’s not some deep characterization for Lisbeth that we really need. You can indicate that she’s an abuse victim without rubbing everyone’s nose in it, but I guess that’s just a problem with the source material. I think Fincher may get off on it a little bit too - not the revenge itself but the idea of shoving it in the audiences face. I just don’t think it serves the story. Honestly it’s not even that great of a story, it’s very mid airport novel thriller material.
|
|
#
?
Nov 8, 2023 19:47
|
|
|
Just watched the Game, and pretty fun but that ending feels too clean. Maybe it’s from all the horror I’ve been watching but feels like their should have been some big Gotcha at the end instead of a date.
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2023 03:21
|
|
|
Fincher is pretty open about The Game being a tough film to end, there is also an alternate where he doesn't meet her at the end but imo both are pretty weak. Back half of that movie really loses the plot
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2023 03:42
|
|
|
Makes me want to watch Total Recall again.
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2023 05:39
|
|
|
With the amount of cross over between Blank Cheque and Big Picture lately I'm starting to get the feeling the two friends are being soft rolled into the Ringer network
|
|
#
?
Nov 19, 2023 07:00
|
|
|
I would've honestly been amazed if they had done the Fincher miniseries and not had Fennessey or CR on.
|
|
#
?
Nov 19, 2023 07:24
|
|
|
CR would bring great energy. Fennesey always feels weird when he isn't host or co-host, but it does let him let loose a little bit with the deep movie appreciation he's got, much as I like her Dobbins can sometimes cut the legs out from under him right when he's about to go on some interesting tangent or history. Excited to see their thoughts on The Killer, it's easily my favorite Fincher, it's like he finally made a movie about being a try hard instead of just being try hard.
|
|
#
?
Nov 19, 2023 07:45
|
|
|
Mank Mank Mank Mank Mank Mank!
|
|
#
?
Nov 19, 2023 10:00
|
|
|
Mank just doesn’t work for me. I guess I don’t find the writing process as interesting or fun as Citizen Kane itself.
|
|
#
?
Nov 20, 2023 15:58
|
|
|
Have they announced the next series yet anywhere? I don’t really follow social media.
|
|
#
?
Nov 20, 2023 16:00
|
|
|
While running errands and listening to the podcast yesterday, I started just saying "Mank" outloud. Mank you very much
|
|
#
?
Nov 20, 2023 21:05
|
|
|
This is where I admit I get Mank and Trumbo mixed up in my head constantly. Also, if you haven't listened to that Big Pic lawyer movie draft they mentioned check it out.
|
|
#
?
Nov 21, 2023 02:45
|
|
|
Mank is about a grumpy screenwriter in a bed and Trumbo is about a grumpy screenwriter in a bathtub. That's what I've picked up from listening to the pod anyway.
|
|
#
?
Nov 21, 2023 04:30
|
|
|
I think the biggest downfall of Mank is that there are so many good movies about writers that this one pales in comparison and it makes it harder to forgive the shortcomings.
|
|
#
?
Nov 21, 2023 05:53
|
|
|
I'm not entirely convinced Mank is real and not an elaborate hoax
|
|
#
?
Nov 21, 2023 08:01
|
|
|
checkplease posted:Mank just doesn’t work for me. I guess I don’t find the writing process as interesting or fun as Citizen Kane itself. It's a bafflingly bad movie based on a faulty and largely discredited hatchet job by Pauline Kael. Even Fincher in interviews repeated the same claims about Welles. 5 minutes of research would have revealed a number of times where Welles directly credits other people for helping him on CITIZEN KANE. As with ZODIAC, there's some self satisfaction with accuracy despite the fact Fincher relies on some wildly inaccurate people. Outside of that it just doesn't do anything for me. The B&W photography and the attempt to emulate old Hollywood doesn't work with the digital sheen and Oldman feels, pardon the pun, too old for the part. All this series has really done is prove to me that I think Fincher is a somewhat middling Director. I want to like his stuff more than I do but I just don't think his movies are all that good. DrVenkman fucked around with this message at 11:50 on Nov 21, 2023 |
|
#
?
Nov 21, 2023 10:12
|
|
|
I think I'd like him more if people didn't like him as much, the high opinion others hold him in does a disservice to his lack of talent. Also doing Kubrick number of takes for unkubrick results wins you no glory.
|
|
#
?
Nov 21, 2023 10:14
|
|
|
Xiahou Dun posted:Have they announced the next series yet anywhere? I don’t really follow social media.
|
|
#
?
Nov 21, 2023 10:34
|
|
|
I’m kinda the opposite, I was pretty lukewarm on Fincher and most of his movies but rewatching them gave me a new appreciation. I liked Zodiac and Seven a lot more on rewatch than I did the first time I saw them. And I still think Gone Girl is a modern classic. He really does have a special superpower in his ability to identify the essence of an actor; that thing that reads to the audience without the actor even trying. He also has the basic skill of understanding the drama of a story and making it come across on screen in the most effective way possible, which is more than you can say for probably 90% of working directors. He just doesn’t always work with the most compelling source material (Button, Dragon Tattoo, Mank). I do think he is in the top tier of working directors and it’s a bit weird to see people call him middling as if he’s Ron Howard or something. Also, Gaius Marius posted:I think I'd like him more if people didn't like him as much, the high opinion others hold him in does a disservice to his lack of talent. Also doing Kubrick number of takes for unkubrick results wins you no glory. Buddy, you shouldn’t let other people’s opinions affect yours so much.
|
|
#
?
Nov 21, 2023 16:51
|
|
|
I don't think Fincher is always working with the best scripts but his movies look so good it rarely matters
|
|
#
?
Nov 21, 2023 17:05
|
|
|
Only part way through the ep, but the thing about Mank that seems to resonate with them might also be what left me cold. The ep so far keeps focusing on the things that sound intellectually interesting if it intersects with previous movie knowledge. The hisses and pops and echos of the sound design evoking the feel of weird acoustics being in an old theater of the 30s and 40s. Listing off the old composers of the time that I have never heard of as inspirations for the score. The intimate knowledge of the behind the scenes goings on of Citizen Kane. I'm sure all of these historical curios rev these film nerds' engines, but I just don't feel it led to an engaging movie on the screen.
|
|
#
?
Nov 21, 2023 20:04
|
|
|
Colonel Whitey posted:
You mistake what I'm saying. My opinion on Fincher is not and will never be based on anything but my watching experience; I consider him at the same level as the dude who made Speed, a solid but unremarkable director. It is the fact that others hold him in such regard that I am forced to devote brain power towards him that I would otherwise never use.
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 08:45
|
|
|
Gaius Marius posted:You mistake what I'm saying. My opinion on Fincher is not and will never be based on anything but my watching experience; I consider him at the same level as the dude who made Speed, a solid but unremarkable director. It is the fact that others hold him in such regard that I am forced to devote brain power towards him that I would otherwise never use. Lmao.
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 13:57
|
|
|
 
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 14:12
|
|
|
I’m still salty over the My Neighbor Totoro episode being taken over by that I’m the Main Character guy whose annoying shtick is to turn the show into a weird power grab forced competition or something? I just wanted to hear them talk about my favorite Miyazaki 
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 14:49
|
|
|
Hey now, Speed and Twister are very solid.
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 22:52
|
|
|
Twister is rear end but Speed is a better movie than anything Fincher ever made
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 22:56
|
|
|
Apex Rogers posted:I’m still salty over the My Neighbor Totoro episode being taken over by that I’m the Main Character guy whose annoying shtick is to turn the show into a weird power grab forced competition or something? I just wanted to hear them talk about my favorite Miyazaki Oh yeah that episode sucked huh. I remember that. Just an insane level of "this bit isn't funny."
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2023 23:47
|
|
|
I keep forgetting this thread is in CineD, home of the insanely wrong opinion
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2023 01:17
|
|
|
This dork on the 28 days later is insufferable. 42 minutes in and he's still goin on about loving 9/11. Here's an idea, connect it to the film or shut the gently caress up.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2023 04:17
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 9, 2024 07:15 |
|
|
You’re like the Old Faithful of bad opinions.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2023 05:42
|
|