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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
I don’t know any of the Gethard back drama, but episode seems fine for me after listening to 2 hours of it. The Letter was silly, but funny and didn’t take up too much time. It’s an easy mash of the skip button a few times if you want. Derails on Star Wars haven’t seemed any worse than normal ones.

As for the hot takes, the show always has some of those. A few weeks ago one of the guest said Guy Ritchie is a bad film maker which is crazy to me. He makes a very specific type of movie but is probably the best in that narrow British street genre.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
I’ve listened to an hour and it’s alright so far. Mainly just been background and fun Raimi stories up this point.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Episode was alright. I could definitely see a version of this episode where the guests more matched the high energy of Drag me to hell. The Romani aspects aren’t great, but you can tell Raimi just wanted a witch and wasn’t too concerned about background. She’s gross because shes a witch lady. Like they said, probably should have just made up some weird religion.

There was more discussion on the morality and messages than I think the movie cares about. It’s just a lady version of Ash experiencing deadite stuff again. Fun movie.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
One of the ladies seemed like she enjoyed the movie at least, just saying Romani stuff bothered her.

I’m jealous on seeing DMTH in theaters. I watched it for the first time this past fall when some friends and I put a horror marathon on. After the fifth conjuring universe movie, Drag was so refreshing. I missed that it was a Raimi film and was wondering how it was so fun and goofy after that initial car fight. Makes so much sense now.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose

Eggnogium posted:

The movie has multiple scenes where Christine compromises her integrity to curry favor with assholes (bank manager especially but also Long’s parents). It definitely is purposefully drawing a picture of why she might be damned in a way that the Evil Dead movies do not.

Naw, it’s a straightforward reading but is not mentioned directly and is still a complete movie without it.

Yeah I don’t disagree that she makes many a terrible choice (lol at just killing a cat). I’m saying there is a connection to Ash growing as kind of a jerk too. Albeit a much more charismatic one with heroic deeds. In Army of Darkness Ash is super arrogant and kind of sleazy with the girl (just pillow talk). He lies often and does nearly abandon everyone to their fate. Of course he makes the right choice in the end.


Christine is obviously worse and does not have any selfless heroic deeds. So she’s kind of an Ash that just makes worse choices. She’s arrogant and gets tortured all the same. But ultimately she likely would have just gone through the time portal and not fought a skeleton army.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
What are best Fosse to watch? I doubt I’ll be able to get to all of them in the near term. But picked up all that jazz at least.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose

Conrad_Birdie posted:

I mean it’s four movies but yeah go out of your way to watch All That Jazz and Cabaret

Oh thought it was a lot more for some reason. Agreed 4 is easy enough, but thanks for highlights.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Sweet Charity had some fun dances and songs, especially first hour, and a lot of the comedy is still funny. But I don’t feel like the last 15 minutes worked. It’s just so tonally different and more cruel tragedy vs the early humorous tragedy of charity getting pushed off the bridge during her song.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Haven’t listened yet, but yeah usually very different with famous guests compared to other writer/podcast friends.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Seems normal for the show though. Griff often goes on these long tangents with extraneous details. Smith was alright for me at least, I liked hearing about this producer.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Lin is probably the biggest guest for the pod, so good for them.

Also as he’s written/composed multiple musicals, he should have lots of in-depth first hand knowledge of the process.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
For movie discussion, Cabaret was really good and the first time I think I’ve seen Liza Minelli act outside of arrested development. So yeah she kills all the songs and I can see why she’s a big name. I’ll have to watch the stage show someday.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Ok all that jazz rules. Roy is so charismatic and all the song/dance sequences are so good. And that ending number to top it all off.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Agreed that Lin made for a good episode. He came in prepared and added a lot of history and experience to the episode. He seemed to mesh well with their humor too. But he does have a rap in the last 5 mins if you want to avoid, though it’s funny context at least.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Episode was alright. The other episodes were definitely more fun but also had more fun subject matter. I haven’t watched Star80 yet, and not sure I will based on discussion. But the concept reminds me of Fire Walk With Me though that one is heavily focuses on the female character and her feelings.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
The Killing was pretty good. It felt like a prototype for more modern heist films. And it has some great characters and a beautifully tragic ending.

It also made me think of Widows and the scene of them training for the weight of millions of dollars in a bag.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
I realized looking at his filmography that I have never watched Trainspotting. Wondering if that is going to feel aged now.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Jobs was alright, but dialogue was so over the type, so Sorkin I guess. But it’s been a while since I’ve seen it. It always felt like it was meant to be a stage play to me.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Shallow Grave was alright and definitely felt like 90s energy. But A Simple Plan seems like the better version of this one. Crazy man living in the attic is fun though.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Ok finally watched Trainspotting and I think I missed seeing it in the right decade. I’m definitely not as high on it as many and the boys.

Ewan is great. And Boyle directs the hell of it bringing tons of energy and some wonderful shots. But the story is just kind of dumb for me and not one I connect to. There’s a counter culture aspect with the choose life speeches that doesn’t really seem much bigger than gently caress the system. And the whole thing seems to be Renton is an rear end in a top hat who really suffers no consequences. He steals and does lots of heroin, has sex with an under age girl repeatedly, and screws over his friends, and ends it all with a he’s good to be better speech even though we saw him shoot up in a bus bathroom 15 minutes ago.

Tommy is probably the most real depiction as his apartment turns to squalor not the cool party house of the others. Also the baby scene was a bit long but I guess the shock was important at the time.

I can see how this has influence on many films like requiem for a dream and fight club. I probably just prefer those to this one.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Nah this is year for gdt, just had one of his best films.

But gimme that sataoshi kon also.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Leone just seems like it would lack variety. 5 of his films are westerns, though many great ones. But would be a shorter series at least

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Sadly Lars is up against Kon who is one of my favorites. I like Jackson and Del toro, just they feel like example blank check directors as they had big Hollywood films and got to make their passion projects. So I would assume they would be covered naturally though its been like 7 years now.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Listening to this 28 days later episode, the guest is kind of a downer so far. Complaining about the Shaun of the dead being mean? What. The genre of zombies always involves the struggle of fighting them. Also movie ends with them learning to live with some zombies…

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
I feel like Lean could happen naturally now that the bit is gone.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Griffin coming across a little too passionately for his love of sunshine. I think Interstellar might be the better version of this film? Well at least it has better robots.

But I still need to rewatch sunshine. I saw it originally in theaters and found the last act a little on the crazy side then. So will be interesting to see how I view it now.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Ha I kind of like Nolan’s goofy science force of love. But interstellar makes a good pair with Sunshine. Or maybe Event Horizon also.

I forgot Michelle Yeoh was in Sunshine. Cool surprise after her big year and then watching all her Hong Kong action films on criterion channel.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Rewatched sunshine. Solid but still like interstellar more.

I think one fault I find with Sunshine is that they stress how this is humanities last hope, and the characters act like it mostly, but the whole mission plan doesn’t feel like it. Like there’s just no redundancy. The sun shield angle should be physically tied to course direction with no human involvement . There should be more escort ships then or more than one person on the ship who knows how to use the payload. The whole crew setup is so lean and feels like it is following Alien style, but that was a corporate crew and totally expendable. I think Interstellar feels smarter about their mission planning.

Also Pinbacker should have taken out Chris Evans, really sell the menace.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Also GDTs Pans Labyrinth and Devils Backbone are some top tier films. GDT just seems like a natural fit for them with a mix of small and giant Hollywood movies with varying commercial success. Though they haven’t decided to discuss him in 8 years makes it seem like they may not want to…

But anyways I don’t think GDT would beat Bong or War.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Kombat takes it all i say

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Oh oops. Yeah hmm maybe oceans then

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
I want Wong just because I got the box set recently. But guess will make good excuse to buy more films of whoever wins

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Good timing with them all on the criterion channel.

I wonder how discussions on all the racist portrayals will go: blackface, minstrel, pro confederate movie. Obviously it’s part of its time being in the 1920s and 30s, but two friends are not always the most deft with such matters. But maybe it’s easier since they are such old movies.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Finally watched 127 hours. Gotta agree that this probably plays better in theaters. At home you are kind of waiting for the arm to go. Parts felt padded like the fake rain escape. But some solid music though and cool visual style.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Three ages is pretty fun. Some of the jokes felt tired at first but then yeah remembered this is from 100 years ago and was probably one of the first. But most of the Roman time stuff, especially chariot race, still felt like gold.

Our Hospitality has the nicer restoration, but felt a little too long. Lots of steam engine scenes that feel less interesting for me now. Avoiding the killer brothers was fun though.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Oh yeah wristwatch and spare dog are great stuff. All the Roman era is pretty great. You can feel now Mel Brooks history of the world was influenced.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
A connoisseur of context has to take the bad with the good.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Oops, Actually gotta finish Navigator episode first before commenting.

checkplease fucked around with this message at 03:35 on May 22, 2023

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Seven chances felt a bit weaker, but it is great for showing off how well Keaton can run.

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Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Overall I think the Keaton series was a neat idea and I’m glad that it got me to watch his movies. But yeah I think they just didn’t have enough to talk about with them and that led to a lot of repetition.

The Chaplin vs buster stuff was funny at their commitment to bashing him, but it got me to watch more of his films also.

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