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Why did I ever care about these bougie fucks
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Jul 22, 2019 04:21
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The fact that they didn't kill the comically evil mother-in-law makes me wonder what this show is even about anymore.
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Jul 22, 2019 04:50
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Yeesh, talk about unsatisfying. At the very least they should’ve filled the last third of the episode with Celeste and Mary Louise admitting in more and more evidence without the other’s lawyer knowing.
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Jul 22, 2019 05:41
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The "you let your children stay in your house while my son beat you so I should have your children" argument sure was something else.
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Jul 22, 2019 06:32
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So ultimately this season was an effort in proving that it actually didn't need to exist. It did give us some great Meryl Streep moments, and I appreciated that Bonnie got a much stronger showing this time around, but overall I'm going to go on thinking about it as a one season show.
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Jul 22, 2019 06:58
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Monterey made a strong showing, but I don't think it was enough to overcome the poor writing.
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Jul 22, 2019 07:10
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nooneofconsequence posted:The "you let your children stay in your house while my son beat you so I should have your children" argument sure was something else. Strong TV movement. So glad we got this cash grab season. Who needs good ideas and a strong script when you can have star power and hype.
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Jul 22, 2019 08:03
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MiddleOne posted:Strong TV movement. So glad we got this cash grab season. Who needs good ideas and a strong script when you can have star power and hype. basically. Like I absolutely loved every scene of Renata yelling at her piece of poo poo husband but.... You need a little more than that for a show
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Jul 22, 2019 10:06
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Gluten Freeman posted:basically. Like I absolutely loved every scene of Renata yelling at her piece of poo poo husband but.... You need a little more than that for a show I would have preferred a more nuanced and thought provoking Renata subplot. One where they examine if your husband committing white collar crimes that almost every rich person commits, and subsequently losing all their money goes past the boundaries of "for better or worse" without having him cranking the piece of poo poo dial up to 100 by loving the nanny and then deciding to say literally every wrong possible thing in one scene. It's boring when the writers decide "Ok, you're now 100% bad for the sake of everyone hating on you in peace." In my head I refer to this as The Gale Hawthorne Treatment.
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Jul 22, 2019 11:37
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Renata’s storyline was my favorite cause of how over the top it was. It was like they kept trying to do one of her season 1 freakouts over and over again so they kept having to manufacture worse things to happen. Gordon might as well have been a totally different character than even the minor bits of him we saw last season with how he was trying to piss Renata off.
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Jul 22, 2019 14:04
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Did they ever explain why Renata didn't divorce him other than the unstated - she wants to have a complete family for her daughter? E: I will say Laura Dern killed it as a extremely pissed off and motivated woman. The finale' spent a third of the time with a comatose woman, a character that even when she talked did little for the story. The childhood flashbacks did nothing for the story or character. There were hints of her having supernatural gifts (right or am I crazy?) that went nowhere. Her parents added nothing to the story of the development of Bonnie's character. Also Bonnie was carrying a burden for sure but but having a character frown literally for a whole season gets old. Same with Ed. Emo for a season then has a last second shift. Ed got real, real old.
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Jul 22, 2019 15:50
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It was definitely not as good as the first season but it delivered some fantastic performances. There are certainly worse things to watch in TV these days. Overall I’d give season 2 a solid “B+”
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Jul 22, 2019 18:16
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Sten Freak posted:Did they ever explain why Renata didn't divorce him other than the unstated - she wants to have a complete family for her daughter? E: I will say Laura Dern killed it as a extremely pissed off and motivated woman. At one point she says it’s “what we(wives) do” which I can get. Renata is older and divorce was pretty heavily stigmatized so I can see someone her age believing she had to tough it out.
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Jul 22, 2019 20:35
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I don't know what her husband expected her to do when he's making jokes about loving the nanny to her face. For a second I thought the bat to the chest was gonna cause a fatal arrhythmia and then she'd call up all her friends to cover it up and season 3 plot go!
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Jul 22, 2019 21:27
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This season only exists to get Laura Dern an Emmy.
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Jul 22, 2019 23:19
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I guess it's good that all these actresses got a good paycheck but this was a waste of ~6 hours
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Jul 22, 2019 23:21
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I liked it okay. Then again, I have watched multiple seasons of Real Housewives. The court stuff is annoying, but rich people get to do whatever they want in court anyway. Thats, like, the law.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:08
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ALSO, did it bother anyone else that Celeste said she was like Wonder Woman and the Hulk combined, and totally ignored She-Hulk who is both a woman, a hulk AND a lawyer? Sloppy stuff.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:23
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TheHan posted:ALSO, did it bother anyone else that Celeste said she was like Wonder Woman and the Hulk combined, and totally ignored She-Hulk who is both a woman, a hulk AND a lawyer? Sloppy stuff. I yelled to my wife "THAT'S SHE-HULK! AND SHE IS ALSO A LAWYER!" She was unimpressed.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:30
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TheHan posted:ALSO, did it bother anyone else that Celeste said she was like Wonder Woman and the Hulk combined, and totally ignored She-Hulk who is both a woman, a hulk AND a lawyer? Sloppy stuff. I hope someone got fired for that blunder.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:45
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Celeste: I'm wonder woman AND hulk  Kids: did you beat her up? Celeste: What!? No, we don't do that kids: that's literally all wonder woman and hulk do, you dumb bitch
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Jul 23, 2019 04:18
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Laura Dern and Streep’s freakouts were fantastic (and the other performances were still good!) but otherwise yeah this season was a total loving wash
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Jul 23, 2019 08:48
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First half of the season felt great, like we were going somewhere. Last few episodes...did not like where we ended up at all. That last scene, jesus christ. All these plot points felt like they would lead to the Monterray 5 getting caught out. Bonnie's suicidal impulses and her mental ma, Renata losing all her dosh, Reese Witherspoon's husband finding out about the affair and then noticing she's got all these secrets, Meryl Streep as the vengeful mother in law that knows her son was murdered, Jane's podcast fan boyfriend. Everyone finds some sort of peace and then goes to confess? Is that it?
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Jul 23, 2019 11:56
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Shneak posted:This season only exists to get Laura Dern an Emmy. If that was true they wouldn't have cast Meryl Streep.
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Jul 23, 2019 12:57
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Meryl Streep and Laura Dern were cool. Everything else was poo poo. Just pure loving poo poo goddamn. On a less flippant note, I think some of the things that made season 1 interesting were the ways in which the lives of the children meshed with those of the adults. The school scenes/interactions usually felt incredibly intricate and well done, and enriched the drama amongst the adults. But in season 2 all the kid stuff felt like a caricature-ish footnote.
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Jul 23, 2019 15:51
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This season was worth it for the unhinged joke alone.
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Jul 23, 2019 17:06
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Adam Scott is handsome and a good guy.
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Jul 24, 2019 19:36
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Jul 25, 2019 01:01
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Vernacular posted:Meryl Streep and Laura Dern were cool. Everything else was poo poo. Just pure loving poo poo goddamn. Yeah, there was an actual thematic significance to it in S1. It wasn't just about the abuse and trauma, but also about how adults subject their children to their own traumas and insecurities without meaning to. The Amabella bullying plot isn't incidental...everyone believes Ziggy did it because of his origins. Jane's terrified that her son inherited his father's cruelty, but in actuality he inherited her empathy. Meanwhile, Celeste is doing all she can to compartmentalize her experience of abuse from her sons, but they see it and feel it. And of course one of them is the actual bully. It all connects. There's also a real focus in S1 on how the parents' behavior affects their kids emotionally. Obviously, Perry's abuse affects the twins. Jane's inability to discuss Ziggy's father contributes to his isolation and anxiety. Madeline's continued anger at Nathan spills over onto Abigail...their experiences and feelings are actually significant. We spend actual time with them. They have personalities. In S2, whatever the kids are doing or feeling seem incidental. The twins are kinda sad about their dad, but it doesn't really matter. Mary Louise is trying to turn them against Celeste, but mostly they eat pizza and hang out. Bonnie's withdrawn and depressed and it's alarming to everyone, but Skye has maybe a couple things to say about it. In S1, Ziggy sees his mom struggle and wonders if he's a mistake, but this season he's mostly just jazzed that mom's friend likes surfing. Given the A-plot is literally about a custody battle, you'd think the kids wouldn't feel like props. But they do.
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How are u posted:Adam Scott is handsome and a good guy. I still want to know what kind of job he has that he can afford that house on a beach while his wife doesn't work (prior to this season). Gordon and Perry obviously had pretty high powered careers raking in the bucks (and insider trading), but the Adam Scott character seems to do some kind of coding work from home.
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Jul 25, 2019 14:25
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I cant tell if its the bad taste of watching this show that is making euphoria seem better or that show is actually getting better. Guess we will find out sunday!
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Jul 27, 2019 07:31
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I feel like Euphoria has just been in free-fall for the last few episodes but different strokes I suppose.  Definitely still way ahead of whatever this season was though.
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Jul 27, 2019 07:38
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Its well directed and has some compelling characters. Though the LOUD MUSIC = emotion swell technique gets old fast. Also the villain is so comically drawn. The whole "do whatever say or ill kiddie porn you" one was stolen from American Vandal and probably doesnt work the way he thinks (and everyone else on the show thinks it does). Also if i was a college student and some high schooler kept breaking in and telling me what to do id buy a gun and shoot him. At least interesting things happen to the fairly interesting characters unlike BLL2.
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Jul 27, 2019 08:00
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MiddleOne posted:I feel like Euphoria has just been in free-fall for the last few episodes but different strokes I suppose. Euphoria is like a Ken Park movie where I can't tell if he has something poignant to say about high school kids loving in every other scene, of if he really just likes to show high school kids loving.
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Jul 27, 2019 10:48
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Xealot posted:Yeah, there was an actual thematic significance to it in S1. It wasn't just about the abuse and trauma, but also about how adults subject their children to their own traumas and insecurities without meaning to. The Amabella bullying plot isn't incidental...everyone believes Ziggy did it because of his origins. Jane's terrified that her son inherited his father's cruelty, but in actuality he inherited her empathy. Meanwhile, Celeste is doing all she can to compartmentalize her experience of abuse from her sons, but they see it and feel it. And of course one of them is the actual bully. It all connects. Very well put. There just really wasn't all that much going on was there. They replaced the whodunit element, one of the more galvanizing characters (Skarsgard) and interesting child dynamics with a few threadbare storylines that mostly lacked a payoff.
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Jul 27, 2019 15:36
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We're two weeks out from a new season of succession so all euphoria has to be is "not boring" for two episodes.
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Jul 27, 2019 18:25
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Despera posted:We're two weeks out from a new season of succession so all euphoria has to be is "not boring" for two episodes. Succession is getting a second season? 
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Jul 27, 2019 18:37
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MiddleOne posted:Succession is getting a second season? The rock you are living under not get any HBO promotions?
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Sweden. On the promotions they do here you'd think HBO has no other shows than GoT.
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