The Mana Series Megathread: Visions of Mana Coming This Summer!

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Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

Looks like someone has been able to dump the SD3 ROM from the new collection. None of the existing IPS patches (hardtype/bug fix patch etc) work on it.

also i don't care how op he is kevin owns bones

# ¿ Jun 12, 2019 05:31

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# ¿ May 12, 2024 05:45

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

Someone on resetera made a Trials of Mana: Three Job Thiesta, which is similar to the yearly FFV4JF.
http://www.robin64.co.uk/tomtjt

# ¿ Jun 14, 2019 13:34

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

There's a class guide that isn't on gamefaqs with the stat requirements for learning spells
http://www.angelfire.com/realm/dragonscholar/files/Seiken3Classes.txt

# ¿ Jun 23, 2019 13:42

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

Healing magic is overrated. Just buy a bunch of Poto Oils from the Black Market for partywide Heal Light. Item use is faster than spellcasting anyway. Have the character with the highest Spirit/Piety be your Poto Oil thrower.

# ¿ Jul 4, 2019 23:36

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

New gameplay trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKoa_56t8HM

:eyepop:

Gyoru fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Mar 5, 2020

# ¿ Mar 5, 2020 17:50

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p29PSJEdjpc
Warning: there's commentary

# ¿ Mar 10, 2020 15:26

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

PC demo's out

https://store.steampowered.com/app/924980/Trials_of_Mana/

# ¿ Mar 18, 2020 17:52

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

.Ataraxia. posted:

Alright Mana friends, what classes should I choose for my party of Duran, Angela and Riesz?

Duran (LL - Paladin), Angela (LD - Arch Mage), Riesz (LD - Starlancer)

team holy:
duran has holy saber, a good level 3 CS, and single target healing light
angela is more holy focused with her spellcasting
riesz has permanent party stat buffs (starlancer's passive in this game makes her buffs last until the end an encounter or until dispelled/overwritten) and of course starlancer's aoe silence summon

# ¿ Apr 24, 2020 15:09

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

Kyrosiris posted:

I'm sorry it does WHAT?

starlancer owns even more bones
vanadis not so much

# ¿ Apr 24, 2020 15:43

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

it's out, restart steam

# ¿ Apr 24, 2020 17:03

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

Dackel posted:

Oh yes, mana time. Oh no, what party do I pick

http://robin64.co.uk/tomtjt/

# ¿ Apr 24, 2020 17:13

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

my happy crew that's thankful for unofficial save transfer support (nightblade hawk's cape has physics and is fabulous)

.Ataraxia. posted:

Do tell... Is this from Switch to PC or something?

If you have some way of directly accessing saves on your Switch, you can transfer Switch <-> PC. PS4 saves are encrypted, but would otherwise work the same way.

Gyoru fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Apr 24, 2020

# ¿ Apr 24, 2020 17:45

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

ultrachrist posted:

PS4 issue was resolved as of this morning and I’ve been rolling with Hawkeye/reisz/Angela.

After the demo, the difficulty ramps a bit on hard. Nothing extreme but I’m actually using items now. I’m satisfied— just didn’t want it to be brainless.

I wonder if it’s safe to assume there’s a cactus in every zone and city? 50 is a lot. I’m at 4 or 5 up to Valsenia.

There's 1 in every city and some dungeons have 2. Eventually you unlock a cactus ability that shows you all chest locations on the map and how many cacti are in a zone

# ¿ Apr 24, 2020 19:38

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

Cao Ni Ma posted:

Im going full UwU with Reisz (meteorite) Charlotte (necro) and Angela (rune?) or should I swap out angela for the perpetually smiling boy

gandlethorpe posted:

Are there cacti in the zones you can't go back to?

Nah you can revisit all the zones he's in.

# ¿ Apr 24, 2020 20:03

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

Sapozhnik posted:

Nothing new compared to the demo but the English voice acting is pretty drat bad. Not endearing-bad, bad-bad. Angela and maybe Hawkeye are about the only two characters that are at all pleasant to listen to.

It feels like the voice actors were given an alphabetized list of voice lines and a few hours in a recording booth and told to get on with it. The opening narrator in particular absolutely drips with contempt for her role.

I finished the game earlier* and the voice director was also the sole translator. I didn't recognize most of the English voice actors during the credits.

https://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,949761/

*Took about 20 hours entirely on Hard difficulty. Trying to collect my thoughts on the difficulty on how it could be improved and just general tips for a later post

Gyoru fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Apr 25, 2020

# ¿ Apr 25, 2020 15:22

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

Tricky posted:

Has anyone else run into issues with ??? seeds only giving items for one class? I'm three Benevedons in and all of my seeds have been for Reisz. Which, sure, Star Lancer was a real nice boost, but I'd love to get Hawkeye and Charlotte up and running.

I grabbed 6 ??? Seeds before planting any of them. For me, each gave a unique class item, 2 for each character/1 for each branch, when planted at once. There is 1 guaranteed static chest in each of the Benevodon dungeons that contains a ??? Seed so you can get 6 without relying for monster drops. I ran through those dungeons without fighting anything until I found enough of those chests then magic roped out to class change everyone at once. It helps to have Lil Cactus leveled up far enough to be able to spot treasure chests on your minimap and having increased escape times.

# ¿ Apr 25, 2020 17:21

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

Chrodyn posted:

So this was a great nostalgia trip, SD3 was one of my favourite rpgs of all time and the remake hit all it's sweet spots. I definitely minmaxed a lot more than 13 year old me did though and the last boss of the hawk story didn't know what hit it.

This team feels a bit overpowered and the rainbow seed gear is ridiculously strong (sidenote: they fixed save/reload fishing with seeds).

I had the same issue, got lucky with Nightblade item as my first then 3 paladin items in a row. The ??? seed drop rate really picked up after benevodon #4 and suddenly I had an excess of all of them. Not sure if it was from level, seed box level or just the natural progression.

DD/Nightblade
LD/Starlancer
LD/Liege

This is same team I ran and it was way more synergistic than I would have imagined thanks to the new chain abilities. Starlancer and Liege's CS3s were on the weaker side though.

Hawk was crit focused to enable this Nightblade passive

which is helped by a Riesz base class chain ability

and Valkyrie Riesz's chain ability

and Liege Duran's chain ability

and general purpose

when Hawk so much as breathed on someone they would get afflicted with a stat down without any menuing then the damage would escalate.

Duran heals the party for 600 (1200 if his Liege passive procced) at 4MP a cast and had Tinkle Rain to cleanse ailments.

# ¿ Apr 25, 2020 17:35

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

Item Getter posted:

For people who have already finished the game (?!?!) can you confirm if you get to access the new postgame stuff by loading your last save or something instead of having to go through the game again in New Game+?

There is a post credits scene then it asks you to make a new completed game save. When you load the save, it takes you to before the final boss with the postgame quest unlocked.

# ¿ Apr 25, 2020 18:25

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

(Brutal/Hurt Me Faerie) Difficulty or PC modding wishlist:

Turn all Gold Statues into normal ones/remove the healing.
Give enemies (bosses especially) at least 3x more HP. Bosses die before getting their entire moveset out. The Benevodons are a joke once you hit the Class 3 power spike. I don't want to reduce player damage output because big numbers are fun.
Make red/iframeable attacks come out quicker and make them inflict more status ailments like Silence.
Readjust the equipment distribution once the twin cat merchants come into play. There was always a cheaper/weaker weapon available when their shop list refreshed for some reason, but why would anyone ever go for that one when the stronger one is only a bit more gold. Space out the availability of upgrades. Make equipment sell back for less to force more of a gold commitment.
Swap the 2x and 3x EXP bonuses from Lil Cactus for something else. Reduce/halve boss clear EXP. The chain ability you get for completing the entire board is OP along with most of the character story completion ones.

Gyoru fucked around with this message at 13:07 on Apr 26, 2020

# ¿ Apr 26, 2020 13:00

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

orcane posted:

I'm playing Angela with Duran and Riesz, what makes sense for the class changes? I was thinking Duran as a lord, Riesz as a fenrir knight (I can't actually decide if I want that or starlancer ) and archmage for Angela, but I have never played the original game so I don't know if I'm shooting myself in the foot here.

Angela - I don't have enough experience with Angela in the remake, but she should be fine in any path.
Duran - LL/Paladin - Light Duran's level 2 and level 3 class strikes are underwhelming due to being single target except for Paladin's CS3, which hits a big area. Light Class 4's CS4 is single target though.
Riesz - LD/Starlancer - Perma buffs are too good and better than perma debuffs via Fenrir Knight. Summons are underwhelming (too little damage for the cast time/MP cost). Riesz's CS1 is the best in the game because the vacuum effect interrupts enemy skill/spell channeling. Light Class 4's CS4 is a massive aoe.

# ¿ Apr 26, 2020 14:21

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

Arkeus posted:

Huh, seems the level balance is "you get to level 40+ before ever having a chance to see a Seed ???".

Also I am sure I am missing so much lil' cactus and that makes me sad.

What's this with twin merchant cat? I am post sanctuary of mana but haven't seen them.

After you beat at least 1 Benevodon, 2 not-Niccolo merchants show up right outside each Benevodon dungeon. They sell the equipment leading into the endgame.

# ¿ Apr 26, 2020 14:23

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

Looks like there's a difficulty mod now
https://www.nexusmods.com/trialsofmana/mods/16

enemy stats:
hp * 2 (HP doubled)
atk * 1.5
def * 1.2
agility * 1.2
intelligence * 1.5
spirit * 1.5
luck * 1.2
defMag * 1.2
offMag * 1.2
exp = no change (Exp points gained can be changed in the future, perhaps for ng+ rebalancing ?)

# ¿ May 9, 2020 00:06

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

I remember 2p-3p SD2/SD3 netplay during the early SNES emulation days

it owned

# ¿ Dec 8, 2023 17:49

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A0sil8LWK8

Bunch of preview coverage here
https://www.resetera.com/threads/visions-of-mana-march-2024-trailer-previews-dropped.831672/

# ¿ Mar 28, 2024 14:37

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# ¿ May 12, 2024 05:45

Gyoru: Jul 13, 2004

Tidbit from the preview interviews is this is developed by NetEase instead of the Trials of Mana team

https://www.famitsu.com/news/202403/28338051.html

https://twitter.com/YoshidaBeer/status/1773336749864874074

# ¿ Mar 28, 2024 17:27

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