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Allarion posted:Yeah pretty much. A bunch of cut stuff were recycled into chrono trigger in some way It's still sad how the later part of the game is clearly unfinished Speaking of Secret of Mana: isn't there a spot in the game where you can get infinite orbs for a weapon?
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2020 22:56 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 13:47 |
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Holy crap they aren't just doing a neat little reskin but a full blown redesign of combat and how you get abilities. Nice.
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2020 20:57 |
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Beefstew posted:I streamed Secret of Mana co-op a few years back (which was a beautiful, hilarious trainwreck), and that game's second half is absolutely unfinished. Did the remake fix any of this, or is it just a re-skin of the entire old game?
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2020 21:29 |
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The biggest issues with SoM: - the ungodly amount of time it takes to grind magic, to a lesser extent, weapons. - combat is repetitive, holding down an attack button to charge only for you to whiff because you didn’t quite hit an undefined hitbox is annoying as heck. - your allies getting stuck by walls. All the time. And you can’t continue till they clear the wall. Thank god Trials fixed this. - the aforementioned second half being incomplete. The only thing Secret does better than Trials is magic casting, Trials stopping combat for the spell to go off kind of gets annoying after awhile. Despite all its issues, Secret of Mana still was one of the first games that did co-op adventure RPG right and I love it for that. Oh, I just did a play through and got to the mana holy land then my save got corrupted because I saved in a bad spot (Neko’s in the ice land)
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# ¿ Mar 8, 2020 08:54 |
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Bean posted:I remember Secret feeling like a repetitive grind after a bit. That, and whatever magic trick you use to defeat the final boss (cast some spell on the boy’s sword?), I couldn’t get it to work. I was playing emulated, no clue if that was a factor. I beat that game by using a game genie code that auto killed all the enemies. gently caress you, Square, you didn’t finish your game right, neither will I. You gotta have the girl and Sprite cast mana magic on him to unlock the Mana Sword. It's a dryad spell and most people don't level dryad up long enough to make the spell last awhile.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2020 04:13 |
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I'm happy Angela will be useful for once. I'm in the midst of a playthrough using Angela, Kevin and Hawk and her damage output is... really bad. Use a claw on Kevin to give him an x saber, and in beast form his 2 hits do more damage than one of her spells that the boss is weak to.
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2020 18:24 |
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How has Legend of Mana aged? It definitely had its personality but the lack of a strong plot kind of turned me away from replaying the game.
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2020 02:46 |
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I was trying to think what the highest DPS team would be, which includes black market items. Obviously you have Hawkeye (likely as a Nightblade) and Kevin (God Hand) and maybe Duran as a Paladin? Thought is, use items for attack up / non-light dark sabers, Hawk starts with deadly weapon then uses jutsus for stat downs, Duran for Saint Saber for all the dark enemies, then poto oils for healing. Angela’s damage output just isn’t that great when her spells take awhile to cast and 2 hits from a gold wolf Kevin with attack up is gonna equate that damage.
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2020 18:40 |
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SettingSun posted:For the remake I'll probably go with Duran/Angela/Kevin. I don't use Kevin that often when he's not my main character and I like Duran/Angela's story the most. Duran's whole motivation of getting stronger to beat a wizard who whooped him once is nice and refreshingly straightforward. Kevin's story is basically JRPG John Wick. Right down to him struggling to say his lines.
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2020 23:15 |
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Is the PS4 (pro) version in 4k?
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2020 17:17 |
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Finally got around to playing the demo, and I have thoughts: - really does feel like a completely different game. The areas have newer layouts, and don't seem as maze like. - the combat flow is great. You just kind of weave in and out, and it doesn't feel slow at all. It'll take some getting used to adding jumping to the mix though. - good lord the load times are awful, and I have a hybrid drive. The PS4 version is in 4k (if you have a pro obvs) if any of you are deciding between that and the Switch version if you don't care for mobility.
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2020 07:02 |
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gandlethorpe posted:Playing Angela's flashback after having Kevin as a primary felt like a bit of a slog. Am I missing some neat trick, or is that just what the non-combat specialists have to deal with early on? That's how it was in the original, Angela had to slog through the ice with her staff and nothing else.
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2020 17:32 |
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gandlethorpe posted:Yes, I vividly remember doing a run like that *shudder* She gets a spell early on (when you get the first spirit) which is nice but yeah her and Charlotte have an annoying start to their game.
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2020 17:48 |
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Folt The Bolt posted:From what I've heard, ??? seeds can be found in Treasure Chests so I'd suspect you're going to find them once you get to around the Mana Sanctuary or directly thereafter on normal playthroughs. Are they still going to have gacha / RNG methods to get the item you need?
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2020 00:02 |
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Of all the things that didn't get retranslated, I'm surprised Astoria is the same. I always thought the fan translators were just fans of Astoria, Oregon
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2020 03:35 |
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Twelve by Pies posted:* Except Charlotte. She's completely intolerable. I hope she's gone forever after Wendel. She will (likely) appear one more time in the story to help you through a forest maze then you hear more about her backstory and that’s pretty much it.
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2020 23:19 |
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Can't believe they made Charlotte a Patriots fan, smdh. Is my playthrough gonna have a mid game rant about how Tawm Bwady is a GOAT?
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2020 01:18 |
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Angela / Hawkeye / Riesz would be a fun party if it weren't for the no heals aspect. Edit: it appears as long as you have the prerequisite stat filled, as you unlock spirits their magic becomes automatically available to you as opposed to waiting to level up, which is cool.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2020 20:42 |
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Shoenin posted:it feels pretty BALLS TO THE WALL in a way. Giving her a victory heal to go with her stat ups plus Hawkeye having stat downs sounds super fun. Hmm... may have to try it.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2020 22:09 |
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Persona 5 Royal comes out end of this month, then its FF7R and Trials so it's gonna be a good month of JRPGs while we're all huddled in during our quarantine.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2020 23:14 |
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The 4k and 60fps on the ps4 is why I'm choosing it over the switch version. Also, after the initial load, the game loads much faster overall.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2020 01:44 |
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I thought the assumption was the tree dies but faerie is the new seed, a new tree grows and a new sword is created, which leads up to the events of Secret of Mana.
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2020 18:26 |
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Arguably the worst thing about Chrono Cross is that there is only one bad song in the game but it’s the song you hear the most.
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2020 19:00 |
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What's the best build for a Riesz / Kevin / Charlotte team? I've always gone light for Kevin but I think this time I'll make him dark with Charlotte.
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2020 05:54 |
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In the original, wasnt poto oils scaled on the user's spirit, similar to heal light?
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2020 17:45 |
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Give me a Chrono Trigger remake with Persona 5 Royal showtime style dual and triple techs.
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2020 18:56 |
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Got into a random battle, and after awhile noticed my allies weren’t fighting the enemies and couldn’t see them. After I beat the battle, I noticed they were both stuck in a stairway crevice. This truly is a Mana game
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2020 22:23 |
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For ??? seeds, I went to the Dryad forest (with the pumpkin god beast), and those queen bee enemies drop them at a relatively frequent pace. Once you get 6, if you plant them all at once you'll get 1 of each. Super easy.
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# ¿ May 9, 2020 19:54 |
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Taear posted:While you're totally right about the bees that's not how it seems to work. I had 5 and planted 5 and still got a lot of duplicate items. That's because you need 6, not 5
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# ¿ May 9, 2020 22:57 |
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Wow, a combo of DD Kevin, LD Riesz and DD Charlotte has made the benevodons a walk in the park. Start with strength up from Riesz, dark curse from Charlotte then throw an elemental claw on Kevin and use his crit booster and he just wails on enemies. Light attacks do about 300hp while heavies hit for 600. His #2 tech lands for about 4500hp too. The only one that gave a bit of annoyance was Xan Bie, only because it disappears a lot during the battle and will lose its afflictions.
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# ¿ May 10, 2020 16:30 |
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Poque posted:Not really, it's mainly helpful for repeat playthroughs (or using a guide). That said, you literally run past the Palace of Darkness on the way to the mountains, so it's reasonable to do that without climbing the mountain. Tasnica seems like a possible find as well. The Moon Palace and Tower of Light are definite stretches at best. Theres a place during that stretch of game where if you save there it corrupts your save. Its Neko's in the Ice Fields. Lost a save that way
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# ¿ May 10, 2020 19:08 |
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The queen bee enemies in woods of wandara drop ??? seeds at a pretty good rate. There’s even an encounter where there’s like 4-5 of them at once. I got them with not much grinding, and none of my characters were specced for luck. The only hard part seems to be getting them to respawn.
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# ¿ May 11, 2020 06:39 |
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I somehow got more endgame gear from silver item seeds (probably from the whole "more of them means more chances"). Gold item seeds seem to give me more permanent stat up stuff.
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# ¿ May 13, 2020 19:16 |
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Well I think I just found the perfect trash mobs murder team post game. Kevin, Charlotte and Riesz, after class 4 spheres and their chain abilities, plus the lil cactus chain ability means you'll go into each battle adding 200% of your CS gauge. I have Kevin use Seiryu Strike immediately and that almost always kills all enemies. If not, Riesz will use Seraph which finishes everyone off. After the battle, the chain abilities I have set up refill the CS gauge a bit and refill all my MP.
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# ¿ May 13, 2020 23:02 |
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Yeah, star anise is probably a bit too long. The floating platform transportation pad areas weren't necessary. What level is high enough to beat the black rabite? I've got my team around 77 on medium, with my two strongest characters (Kevin and Riesz) equipped with their class 4 weapons.
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# ¿ May 14, 2020 19:09 |
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Thoughts on a Duran / Hawkeye / Angela team? Pretty set on Hawkeye being a night blade, but unsure if I should just say gently caress it to healing spells and make Duran go dark. Also, I know Angela kind of works any way you go, so ideas there might help too.
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# ¿ May 16, 2020 00:32 |
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Nephrite posted:Note if you plan on doing this: You need to have your Seed Box to level 4 or they won't drop any ??? seeds. This isn't true. They'll drop them at a lower level, just at a less rate. I did mine while my box was at level 3.
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# ¿ May 18, 2020 13:01 |
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I think I've come to the conclusion after a couple playthroughs of the best party: Kevin DD, Charlotte DD, Angela LL Kevin will wreck everything with the immense strength he has (also Seiryu strike will clear trash mobs quickly), as well Angela, and Charlotte can use dark curse as well as heal when necessary (and her summons aren't bad either). Stat up and sabers can be utilized with items, making Riesz and Duran obsolete. You COULD swap Charlotte for Hawkeye for more damage and use his jutsus for stat downs and stick to poto oil for healing (or make Kevin go light), but the amount of damage you're doing from Angela and Kevin will burn everything quickly, and one cast from dark curse is a hell of a lot faster. That said, this game isn't that hard so really any type of party is gonna work just fine. I'd have to wonder what the "worst" party would be.
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# ¿ May 19, 2020 01:29 |
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Omobono posted:What's L Riesz supposed to do at high levels? E: other than buffing of course. My Riesz would spam Seraph a bunch during fights, which works pretty well. Her final light class 4 gets a CS ability that does MP turbo for summon fights, which you can offset with various MP regeneration abilities.
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# ¿ May 19, 2020 18:12 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 13:47 |
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Playing NG+, I had 32 ??? Seeds from a previous playthrough, wanted to try Angela as a Magus. Got 19 rune books to make her a rune seer, not a single item to make her a Magus Edit: just because you cant save scrub this https://mobile.twitter.com/saifagaijin/status/1263900047709622272 seiferguy fucked around with this message at 19:31 on May 22, 2020 |
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