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Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

FilthyImp posted:

What the gently caress is a Homestuck?

It was a popular webcomic.

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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

FilthyImp posted:

What the gently caress is a Homestuck?

Elemental autism.

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Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

So what media, leading to fandom, do you think breaks people most drastically and thoroughly?

I'm not saying that exposure to media in and of itself breaks people, but it seems to me that there are people with hair-thin lines of psychological/emotional fracture that certain media just comes along and clobbers with dead-eyed precision. Then again, hell, I have a pretty good feeling some media is capable of creating those lines of fracture, so--

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord

Pastry of the Year posted:

So what media, leading to fandom, do you think breaks people most drastically and thoroughly?

I'm not saying that exposure to media in and of itself breaks people, but it seems to me that there are people with hair-thin lines of psychological/emotional fracture that certain media just comes along and clobbers with dead-eyed precision. Then again, hell, I have a pretty good feeling some media is capable of creating those lines of fracture, so--
Video games, its what spawned the current crop of Neo-Nazis.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Bongo Bill posted:

It was a popular webcomic.
I get that. I mean, I think I made it to a dozen pages trying to read it once when I realized I needed to read the newspost text or something and just lost interest.

I want to know why it's

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Elemental autism.

Something about multiversal theory and overdeveloped world building? Like what the gently caress is it about.

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord

FilthyImp posted:

Something about multiversal theory and overdeveloped world building? Like what the gently caress is it about.
It had an entire fictional race based on Internet subcultures that was rife for fans to make fan characters of, that's the core of it.

Siselmo
Jun 16, 2013

hey there
Yeah. Homestuck kinda exploded in popularity when the trolls came around.

So many trollsonas in Tumblr and so many people with candy corn horns and grey bodypaint at cons around 2013

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


If I recall, grey face paint was banned at numerous establishments because it clogged up the drains and left hand-marks on the wall akin to when Tobias Funke went through that phase.

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord
I'm sure Faygo was pretty happy about it all though.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
also some running joke about buckets being some sort of noodle impliment that used in troll sex or something.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

Yeah, the short version with Homestuck is that the author was extremely good at creating a ton of distinct-ish characters and silly worldbuilding that fans could get fixated on/use as a basis for original characters, and as the comic went on, he became much more focused on giving the fandom more of that stuff (more characters based on online stereotypes! More weird exposition to theorycraft about!) than actually writing or completing a satisfying story. I don't completely blame him -- dude's gotta eat -- but it created a huge sprawling undying fandom where the original work was vestigial at best.

edit: aw, gently caress, I just told someone about Homestuck, I am filled with shame

Eldritch BiLast
Jul 7, 2009

Pummel Sylvanas
Melee Range
Instant
Homestuck also delivered Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff, which apparently dril and kc green did some work on.

Homestuck is still better than CAD, PA, or MegaTokyo as far as "popular web comics" go.

xcheopis
Jul 23, 2003


Xenoletum posted:

Homestuck also delivered Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff, which apparently dril and kc green did some work on.

Homestuck is still better than CAD, PA, or MegaTokyo as far as "popular web comics" go.

Ok, but that's not a high bar.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Plebian Parasite posted:

There was, and still is, a Myst MMO.

Huh? Is there some server up somewhere I didn't know about? I could swear Uru is only still around as a single-player endeavor but would be happy to be proven wrong.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Xenoletum posted:

Homestuck also delivered Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff, which apparently dril and kc green did some work on.

Homestuck is still better than CAD, PA, or MegaTokyo as far as "popular web comics" go.

Has MegaTokyo been remotely popular in the last decade? It kinda lost steam when Largo quit to go be a Libertarian politico and it turned into an excruciatingly slow (both in pacing and release speed) visual novel that proceeded to slow down even further as the artist had medical problems.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Good Omens is weird because it would be periodically a little bit popular from time to time and then the show happened and that poo poo's ALL over my dash. I even like Good Omens and read it ages ago but it's totally blanketing out everything right now aaaaa

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

Let people enjoy things

That's why my current copy is the tenth or so, I keep lending them out and then they wander off to hvw lives of their own

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Liquid Communism posted:

Has MegaTokyo been remotely popular in the last decade?
I think the only people into it are the guys who invested in the story and want to ride it out, or the ones there to see what happens with mysterious robot waifu and mysterious angeldevil waifu.

Afaik, Piro doesn't even do like rounds at Anime conventions and poo poo.

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

Liquid Communism posted:

Is that really surprising? Ten years ago it would have been a bunch of anthro animal porn, because furries apparently have infinite spending money and thirst.

Different thing.

By 'certain boorus' that poster meant 'furry porn boorus'. A lot of amateur artists either got their start or got their first big investment into developing their art skills in the MLP fandom, but they naturally lost interest it and moved on to just drawing general furry stuff because the skillset translates and the interest for anthropomorphic animals is already there.

Also... nnnot really like, in general? People who get into drawing furry art for the money generally don't have galleries full of it that just suddenly shift to drawing human art past a certain point, and it also isn't like the furry fandom ever stopped being a cash cow. If anything, the better comparison would be Homestuck fanart because that was the big self-contained fandom of the time that also coincidentally shares a lot of what makes MLP appealing to burgeoning artists.

Plebian Parasite
Oct 12, 2012

food court bailiff posted:

Huh? Is there some server up somewhere I didn't know about? I could swear Uru is only still around as a single-player endeavor but would be happy to be proven wrong.

It's totally open source now so there's a few fans here and there running shards. The Uru fan forums get like 2 or 3 posts a month so it's not completely dead just mostly dead.

uvar
Jul 25, 2011

Avoid breathing
radioactive dust.
College Slice
I finally bought a few tie-in novels because of this thread. Some probably had digital versions, but the physical copies are only going to get more expensive (not in a way where they're actually valuable, just never 17c-and-free-postage level). At least that's one benefit of shows being long over - no mystery about how much merchandising trash will come out and whether it's any good.

I was wondering earlier if 'unauthorised' books are still a thing (biographies, sure, but no point making an episode guide when everything has a wiki now), and did you know you can commission bootleg Funko Pops for media they didn't bother with? I think I'll pass on that opportunity.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
:nws: under no circumstances should you learn about this :nws:

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give


This owns; good work, crazy '80's fans

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
A lot of old webcomics are still chugging along in the background, and may or may not have had any significant evolution of art or writing in the last 20+ years.

Always said that it seems there's a rule on the internet that if you put out content persistently, no matter how niche or mediocre, you'll attract a fanbase.

Kenning
Jan 11, 2009

I really want to post goatse. Instead I only have these🍄.



To prove your point, Jeph Jacques of Questionable Content apparently has over 10000 patrons on Patreon, which means he's making at least 6 figures from a Not Very Good Comic he's been doing for like 15 years or whatever. It's impressive, in its way.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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I mean QC is a bit weird in that it seems like someone attempting to be inclusive and do good things. Part of me doesn't understand the urge for everything to be brilliant all the time, sometimes having something just as a job that continues is okay.

Bean
Sep 9, 2001

Pastry of the Year posted:

So what media, leading to fandom, do you think breaks people most drastically and thoroughly?

I'm not saying that exposure to media in and of itself breaks people, but it seems to me that there are people with hair-thin lines of psychological/emotional fracture that certain media just comes along and clobbers with dead-eyed precision. Then again, hell, I have a pretty good feeling some media is capable of creating those lines of fracture, so--

Comic books break people in ways that society is just, like, cool with for some reason. If I find a Harley Quinn/Joker fan (either, or, or both together) they get filed in my Smile and Nod and Keep At Arms Distance file. You also get nerds who are just fine with how women are portrayed in comic books and will gladly recite to you their ten point essay on why Powergirl’s boob window is actually okay.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Bean posted:

Comic books break people in ways that society is just, like, cool with for some reason. If I find a Harley Quinn/Joker fan (either, or, or both together) they get filed in my Smile and Nod and Keep At Arms Distance file. You also get nerds who are just fine with how women are portrayed in comic books and will gladly recite to you their ten point essay on why Powergirl’s boob window is actually okay.

Comic books are very on topic given they're basically the ruins of a once mighty empire with a business model calculated to drive off absolutely everyone but rusted-on fans.

Turpitude II
Nov 10, 2014
The only good comic book is the one where all the transformers are gay married. :colbert:

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

Turpitude II posted:

The only good comic book is the one where all the transformers are gay married. :colbert:

How about the one where the Punisher kills the entire Marvel universe?

Or the one where Super Girl makes out with Super Horse.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Blue Footed Booby posted:

How about the one where the Punisher kills the entire Marvel universe?

Or the one where Super Girl makes out with Super Horse.

I love how Krypto the Superdog is just a Kryptonian dog but Comet the Super-horse is something else entirely.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Comic books are very on topic given they're basically the ruins of a once mighty empire with a business model calculated to drive off absolutely everyone but rusted-on fans.

I used to have a bunch of comic subscriptions but gave them up because it’s so much event crossover poo poo these days and who can keep up with that? Civil War was spread over something like 60 issues over every marvel comic series, plus its own limited. poo poo is insane.

Angry Salami
Jul 27, 2013

Don't trust the skull.

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I love how Krypto the Superdog is just a Kryptonian dog but Comet the Super-horse is something else entirely.

And Streaky the Supercat has yet another unrelated origin!

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

Beppo is, however, a Kryptonian monkey.

Cobalt-60
Oct 11, 2016

by Azathoth
The comics industry is weird because all those old issues where Jimmy Olsen is marrying a gorilla had circulation numbers that the makers of today's Very Serious Superhero Comics would chop off a finger to get. Even the various movies making a gazillion dollars hasn't brought up issue sales. I lost interest in capeshit when I realized that the One Power Above All in every universe (even above Editorial Fiat) was the Status Quo, and therefore all conflict was just so much squabbling. (Not to say you can't tell interesting superhero stories, but only as short arcs in a long and meaningless continuum.) Instead, I got into manga, where if things are still often juvenile and melodramatic, at least (most of) the series have a defined start and end.

I was just thinking about Sluggy Freelance the other day. I re-read my books, and the series isn't bad. Wonder if I should catch up. Let's see: I quit reading around 2003, binged an entire decade around 2013...wonder how long it'll last. Good grief, that's 23 years so far.

I haven't thought about Megatokyo ever since I heard they Kickstarted a VN (how? why?), which I'm certain never got delivered. I collected all the print collections, but the last one took a bad drop in writing quality. (I assume Dom quit editing at some point in there.) I met Fred at a convention; there was literally a line of people at his booth. Nice guy in person. Some day, I'll get drunk at wander through the archives...a reminder of those earlier days in otakudom when the fandom was just blowing up.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
I liked this thread, thanks for bumping it from the abyss.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
Dying Fandom: MTV Cartoons from the 90s.

I guess I did find a Beavis and Butthead pin being sold in Tokyo in 2019 so maybe there's some secret tail for them, but they are never going to put the show back out in the original form, never going to surface the banned episodes, and the internet community that used to preserve the lost episodes has mostly died. I think the community is completely gone it's nonexistent for the other shows they did, like Aeon Flux, the Head, etc. The Maxx lived on a little longer in comics.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Beavis and Butthead had a pretty great revival season a few years back. Unfortunately it was only that single season. And I think there was talks of a new Daria project as well, at one time.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Mantis42 posted:

Beavis and Butthead had a pretty great revival season a few years back. Unfortunately it was only that single season. And I think there was talks of a new Daria project as well, at one time.

Oh that's right, it's supposed to be about Jodie. That sounds good, I hope it is close to the art style.

I really liked the revival season, Mike Judge said it's one and done though )=

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Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
I think Beavis and Butthead would do fairly well if they were able to actually air the drat episodes but sadly it was made before considerations for music rights lasting longer than a few years was really a thing. Owning seasons of TV shows that weren’t Star Trek wasn’t really a popular thing until what, DVD took off in the early 2000’s?

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