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Jan 2, 2015





Sweevo posted:

Elvis fandom has to be on its last legs at this point. I know the prices for memorabilia have dropped like a stone in the last decade as the average age of his fans has to be 70+ by now.

i feel like this checks out since my own mom has gone full cycle from fangirl to fanma to franma re: elvis but grandad rock bands like pink floyd seem to linger on by picking up new blood in college or w/e

i'm sure somewhere out there there's a van still luring kids into elvis fandom and i bet it has memphis license plates

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Jan 2, 2015





tbf the 50s was also about where the media, especially cinema, started doing teenage coming of age stories more seriously and frankly, with films like rebel without a cause or east of eden, foreign outlets were getting in on it too with france's youthful sinners and germany's precocious youths for e.g.

40s teenager films were generally more wholesome and focused on getting through highschool academically, maybe your dad bought you a new-fangled automobile if you got good grades?

then in the 60s you get quasi-modern stuff like the graduate or splendor in the grass which made 'eyes pop and the modest cheek burn' and by the 70s you've got some films looking back on days gone by like the last picture show which was set in '52 and would've caused terminal cases of shat pants if released then and summer of '42 which wasn't afraid to approach touchy subjects like: while young soldiers were off fighting nazis teenagers were using condoms to gently caress their wives scot free

the compartmentalization was real but the market was also opening up to tolerate and reward well done stories

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Jan 2, 2015





you can definitely say a whole lotta poo poo was lost in the backlash tho

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Jan 2, 2015





Accordion Man posted:

More of an American thing, because Marvel and DC made sure they were pretty much the only real game in town when it came to comic books in the States for decades.

The Comics Code of the 50's (Which was pushed by DC to kill off their major competitor, EC) pretty much crippled comic books as a medium in the US.

just to shed a little more background on this: while i don't doubt dc benefited from their competitors ultimately getting gutted, part of the 50s backlash i mentioned earlier was aimed squarely at comic books with several of dc's characters, for e.g., getting singled out for public blame for things like the rise in homosexuality among youths (batman and robin accused of promoting queer lifestyle for gays, wonderwoman of empowering women enough to embrace lesbianism) on grounds that were both extremely shaky at the time and on grounds that would age like dairy in the amazon

there were other accusations of how these stories were corrupting the young and ultimately it was enough to generate a solid, all round moral panic over them (like public book burnings level panic)... everything from romance comics marketed for girls to lurid true crime comics to cape comics for kids were attacked; some cities had already banned comic books by law entirely and others were in the process effecting it through legislature - the industry was boxed into accepting third party content control or facing more consequences

instead of coming in the form of a content rating system like modern movies have that can restrict sales of some movies but not others with an R-rating for e.g., the older hays production code was used as a basis by the newly empowered Comics Code Authority regulating body and all comics had to adhere to a single set of content guidelines they invented, dc did agree to these terms - even saw opportunity in them - but as a popular publisher often singled out it was also under the heaviest scrutiny

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Jan 2, 2015





Dareon posted:

Turns out a lot of really good artists got their start doing pony porn back then. :yikes:

one thing that made me sad like ten years ago now was seeing skilled, young digital artists with a lot of potential who dabbled in a variety of subjects start drawing ponies... and then never anything else since

it was sorta like looking through the portfolio of someone who clearly had a stroke at some point

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Jan 2, 2015





Bomrek posted:

İf you are willing to count it as sports, pro wrestling has all sorts of fandom stuff going on

i wouldn't call wrestling a dead/dying fandom tho, unless we're thinking something specific like hulk hogan fans

in that case, fans like that have certainly been taking a beating for the past few years

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