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macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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I've finally caught up! I thought this was just going to be a fun nostalgia trip, but oof, these books are so much worse than I'd remembered. Literally the only part of the books I enjoyed for some reason were a couple of first chapters from Twilight and even now Ed's POV completely ruined that for me. The new content is definitely a step up in quality fwiw. Although Alice's power gets worse every time it's mentioned.

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“And if you could go anywhere—if the cost were no object—where would you go?”

Ugh, I cringed when I read this sentence. I hate that Edward is interested in Bella's passions and dreams only in terms of gifts he can give her. And I hear this particular question a lot from my dad and it always makes me anxious. Like I can't just talk to him about about stuff I think is cool because he immediately goes "YOU WANT IT?? YOU'LL GET IT!! AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE COST!!". Like he can't connect with any interests I have in other way than buying poo poo. I feel like it's kinda ridiculous to be upset about it but it's so uncomfortable.

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macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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A while ago I stumbled across a Twilight porn parody and it begun with this scene. First it was just a recreation of the scene from the movie and then Eddie unzips his pants and says with tortured face that even his penis is sparkling. Bella goes :O and says "Wow, it's so big!!" and Edward growls "The cock of a killer!"

At the time I thought it was really funny, now I realise it's just Breaking Dawn.

chitoryu12 posted:

Does he imagine himself doing these as stage monologues?
I really wish the filmmakers embraced all the melodrama. Punctuate each dramatic revelation with a strike of lightning, have the actors shout, snarl or mumble every line exactly how it's in the book, use sad violin tracks for all the angst. I'd watch the poo poo out of that.

macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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The way they solved it in Vampire: The Masquerade (and possibly other vampire media, I'm not a specialist) is so much better. There the blood that vampires suck just circulates in their bodies so that they can perform all the bodily functions and when it runs out, they need to feed again. Sorta like, um... regular food works. What the hell was Meyer thinking

macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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I swear to god, every paragraph of this chapter shortened my lifespan by a few months.

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Gingerly, with the lightest force possible, I eased her face away from mine, leaving my fingertips in place against her skin to keep her at that distance. Apart from that small shift, I held myself motionless and tried, if not to ignore the temptation, at least to separate myself from it. I noted the unpleasant return of a few predatory reactions—an excess of venom in my mouth, a tightening in my core—but these were superficial responses. While perhaps it would be unfair to say that rationality was in total control, at least it was not a feeding passion that made that statement untrue. A much more agreeable passion held me in its thrall. Its nature, however, did not eliminate the need to moderate it.
I should stop thinking about this goddamn venom already but wait, he has it in his mouth when they're kissing? So Bella could swallow it by accident at some point? But if Edward holds it in then that means that the inside of his mouth is completely dry? I knew he had marble lips but I've never thought further than that.

This is so cursed I hate it :gonk:

macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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This book really is a prime example of putting too much detail in the story. I mean it's nothing new but it got me thinking. When I write my own stories I usually think of many details about the characters but I don't put them in because they are largely unnecesary for the overall narrative. They're just a fun little thing I do and who knows, maybe it'll be useful eventually but most of the time it isn't. But Meyer just puts everything in. She knew what Edward was thinking and feeling, which probably helped her plan out the dialogue, but a lot of it could be discerned easily by context. But now we get every. single. thought. and feeling. What for? If only Edward was an interesting character, but, well.

And even the occasional flashback or a new scene don't really make it worth it, especially since their inclusion is so awkward and jarring. If Meyer didn't plan on remaking the whole series, why not make this book more about Edward? Start the plot back when he was turned or something, show his miserable life step-by-step, and contrast it with how big of a change Bella's brought, instead just having him dramatically monologue all the time. He would still be an insufferable rear end in a top hat, but at least it'be something new.

macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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Another answer that was only conjecture. “Well, where did you come from? Evolution? Creation? Couldn’t we have evolved in the same way as other species, predator and prey? Or…” Though I didn’t always agree with Carlisle’s unshakable faith, his answers were just as likely as any others. Sometimes, perhaps because his mind was so firm, they felt most likely. “If you don’t believe that all this world could have just happened on its own, which is hard for me to accept myself, is it so hard to believe that the same force that created the delicate angelfish with the shark, the baby seal and the killer whale, could create both our kinds together?”

This bit's been bugging me since I've read Twilight 10 years ago. From the perspective of evolution Twilight vampires are complete gently caress ups - they're not independent as a species because there's no way for them to breed other than turning humans. But that means their potential offspring is their only food source. And on top of that, death of starvation is never mentioned in these books so there's no reason to assume they need blood to actually survive. They are these standard undead unholy abominations but here Meyer tries to suggest there might be a scientifically plausible reason they exist. There aren't any vampire scholars who try to uncover their origins? There aren't any vampire mythos of how were they created? The oldest vampires we hear about were created B.C. iirc. But were there any vampires before that? Were there any vampire species that the current vampires evolved from?

Honestly, the biggest wasted opportunity here is that Twivamps don't have any culture. They are complete parasites of human race in every possible aspect, yet they are presented as superior in every way

macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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chitoryu12 posted:

Finally, a thing Bella is good at: pouring cereal.

An enlightening and alluring sight of Bella easily and confidently locating a bowl, a box of off-brand Cheerios, the fridge, a spoon and the table in her own kitchen.

A sight to behold. Simply marvelous.

macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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chitoryu12 posted:

And that entire flashback happened between sentences!

Twilight would be a great anime

macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:

Oh how I wish I had the link to a post Meyer made on the old Twilight forums where she’s talking about your hand being on fire and it’s the post painful thing ever and there’s a bucket of water right there but if you put your hand out your child dies so what do you do and somehow this justified her vampires being a dominant species.

I’m probably conflating some ideas in all fairness because it’s been years since I read that stuff, but the mental gymnastics Meyer did back then to prove the Cullens were morally good were something.

...wut :what:

macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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Well I guess it makes sense, a child dying was a bit out of nowhere, lol.

Meyer kinda wrote herself in the corner because on the one hand she wants her vampires to be these completely inhuman, eldritch, alien monsters who are entirely ruled by their thirst but on the other she also wants the Cullens to be a model Mormon family. And it's not like Cullens are complete outsiders for other vamps, they're just considered to be quirky.

macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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chitoryu12 posted:

Stop trying to make off-roading harnesses erotic.

How about helicopter harnesses?

50 Shades of Gray posted:

I sit down in my allotted seat, and he crouches beside me to strap me into the harness. It’s a four-point harness with all the straps connecting to one central buckle. He tightens both of the upper straps, so I can hardly move.
He’s so close and intent on what he’s doing. If I could only lean forward, my nose would be in his hair. He smells, clean, fresh, heavenly, but I’m fastened securely into my seat and effectively immobile. He glances up and smiles, like he’s enjoying his usual private joke, his gray eyes heated. He’s so tantalizingly close. I hold my breath as he pulls at one of the upper straps.
“You’re secure, no escaping,” he whispers, his eyes are scorching.

macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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Cool, I basically learned how to read on Harry Potter so revisiting it with more critical eye is always very interesting. Especially in light of JKR's recent... statements

macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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chitoryu12 posted:

Wait, how did they miss Jasper attacking Bella in New Moon if Alice can do this so easily now?

I thought that Alice was supposed to see the future when someone makes a decision or something? Which would explain why she didn't see that attack, because Bella didn't intend to cut herself and Jasper's reaction was mechanical, I guess. But then why is Alice able to see that nothing will happen now? :cripes:

This is such bullshit. It could be good if Cullens' overreliance on Alice's fallible power was actually a plot element, but no, Alice sees what SMeyer wants her to see and that's it. That's just sad

macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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chitoryu12 posted:

“Bella needs to eat at least three times every twenty-four-hour period. And hydration is important. She should have water on hand. Ideally eight hours of sleep."

She also needs to be walked four times a day. Don't feed her between meals. Vet's number is on the fridge

macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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Late one day but we can still celebrate!

https://twitter.com/NetflixFilm/status/1426234638826188808

macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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chitoryu12 posted:

Wouldn't that be a shame if it happened?

How Edward envisioned their relationship, probably

https://scragon.tumblr.com/post/659324632665653248/scragon-vampire-and-his-human-wife-after-years

macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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Just looked back that this chapter is called 'Chores' and I gotta give it to SMeyer, reading it really feels like one

macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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chitoryu12 posted:

Instead, I prayed to her God. Because if there was some higher, benevolent power in her universe, then surely, surely, he or she or it would have to be concerned about this bravest and kindest daughter. If not, there was really no purpose to any such entity. I had to believe she mattered to that distant God, if one existed at all.

:laffo:

macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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Was the car a purple WRX STI painted in violently orange bubbles and driven by 100-years old teenagers? :ohdear:

Take care, hope you get well soon!

macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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chitoryu12 posted:

Guess whose bones are stitched back together properly?

Hurray to bones!

macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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I don't even know what to say. I haven't read many of his threads here but what I did read was spectacular. Rest in peace, and my deepest sympathy to his friends and family.

macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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Midjack posted:

Getting your sister to push your girlfriend around in a wheelchair so you can more easily hold her hand while you’re out in town is a look.

Now that made me laugh. Eddie's sense of drama is a gift that keeps on giving

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macabresca
Jan 26, 2019

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Thanks for wrapping this up, you did a good job!


Btw, is there some way to easily find chitoryu's threads? I know he did RP1 and James Bond but I wanted to check out his other stuff

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