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Who do you wish to win the Democratic primaries? This poll is closed.
Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher	18	1.46%
Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer	665	54.11%
Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker	319	25.96%
Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord	26	2.12%
Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe	5	0.41%
Julian Castro, the Twin	5	0.41%
Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer	5	0.41%
Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath	17	1.38%
Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino	3	0.24%
Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist	8	0.65%
Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen	86	7.00%
Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater	23	1.87%
Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool	32	2.60%
Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy	2	0.16%
Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast	1	0.08%
Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated	4	0.33%
Tim Ryan, the Dope Face	3	0.24%
John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran	7	0.57%
Total:	1229 votes

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Lightning Knight: Feb 24, 2012; Pray for Answer

Debate livestream link: https://www.cnn.com/specials/live-video-0

Main Paineframe posted:

Okay, I'm officially putting an end to talk in this thread about who you'll vote for in the general election. Yes, I know that each and every one of the thread regulars have primary candidates that they really hate. But nothing seems to cause more meltdowns here than talking about what happens after the primary, which is kind of out of scope for this thread anyway.

You can have all the nightmares you want about what happens if it ends up being your least favorite candidate vs Trump, but don't talk about them here or you're going to cat jail. Talk about it in some other thread, like this one.

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The 2020 Democratic Primaries are an utter clowncar poo poo show. A number of candidates are running, and most of them are jokes. Here is a quick summary of what happened at the first two debates (which were necessary because the qualifications were so low that about 20 candidates qualified):

Winners: Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Marianne Williamson (lmao)

Improvement: Cory Booker, Julian Castro

Held Steady: Bernie Sanders

Owned: Robert Francis O'Rourke, Pete Buttigieg

Murdered on Live Television: Joe Biden

Irrelevant: everyone else

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Summary of the candidates _{courtesy of Main Paineframe, to whom all complaints and hate mail should be directed}

Cory Booker

Former mayor of Newark and current Senator of New Jersey. His hands-on approach as mayor got him plenty of good press for things like personally saving a person from a burning house, but that's largely been eclipsed by some dicey political stances, most famously when he bucked the Obama campaign to defend Romney and Bain Capital from the Obama campaign's cruel attacks against private equity funds. He's liberal on social issues, but conservative on most economic issues, and his close relationship to Wall Street and the healthcare industry is unlikely to win many friends on these forums.

In the primary so far, he's mostly campaigned as a moderate, resisting Medicare for All and talking up the virtues of compromise and bipartisan cooperation. However, he's recently drawn some attention by attacking Biden for talking too much about the virtues of compromise and bipartisan cooperation with segregationists and white supremacists. His debate performance was generally considered to be solid, but not stunning.

Bill de Blasio

Mayor of New York City. His record has been pretty center-left, but I'm not really sure what his presidential platform is because he only announced last month, has barely campaigned, and has made a number of bad campaign decisions. For example, he skipped a 9/11 memorial event and then blamed it on his staff, and his pre-debate policy release was tweeting an obviously-staged conversation with his son in which he was advised to bring a basket of puppies to the debate. That's about what he'd need, since right now he's polling as by far the most unpopular of the Dem primary candidates, and barely made the cutoff for the debate. He's gone after Biden even more aggressively than Booker did, but he needs a hell of a turnaround to have any chance.

Juli�n Castro

Former mayor of San Antonio, and HUD secretary under the Obama administration. Beloved by the political establishment, but that hasn't translated to much support among the media or on the ground. His highlight issues are universal pre-kindergarden and lead cleanup; other than that, he's very liberal on social policies and supports moderate incremental improvements in economic issues.

He's released plenty of detailed policy plans, but he's so far failed to gain any real traction, and he did great in the debates; this longtime rising star may be one to watch.

Also, he has a twin brother in Congress, so if you want hilarious place-changing hijinks like in a bunch of B-grade 90s comedies, this should be your #1 pick.

John Delaney

A former entrepeneur who founded a healthcare finance company and a commercial lender before he went into politics, winning a blue House seat in Maryland in 2012. Has declared himself to be the "most moderate" 2020 candidate, a "responsible president" who will "bring this country together". He wants to cut taxes for business, open up venture capital investment, and cooperate with Republicans on bipartisan legislation whereever possible.

Naturally, his primary campaign hasn't been doing all that great. He's been actively denouncing left-leaning policies like Medicare for All, which led him to getting loudly booed off stage by the crowd at the California Democratic Convention.

Tulsi Gabbard

An Iraq War veteran, and a House member in Hawaii since 2013. Unusually for an American politician, she's economically leftist but leans right on social issues, which leads to a lot of Ron Paul-style unusual positions, such as anti-interventionism. Her most famous issue these days is probably her open hatred for Muslims, but she spent much of the 00s openly anti-LGBT as well and supported conversion therapy and banning gay marriage.

Often appears wearing plant life in some form, possibly indicating that she is secretly a druid.

Jay Inslee

The current governor of the state of Washington, he's been in politics for a long time. He's running for president as a single-issue climate change candidate, and while some think his climate plan may not go far enough, he'll definitely bring up the subject as much as he can during the debates. I don't think he's talking much about his position on other issues, though he's mentioned that he's open to a "Medicare for those who want it" public option. Did a bit disappointing during the debates; he got distracted with meaningless junk and failed to hammer his strongest issue.

Amy Klobuchar

A former prosecutor who, having served as a senator in Minnesota for over a decade, has gotten a lot of media buzz as the bipartisan moderate candidate who might win back the red-leaning states in the Midwest by attracting conservative votes. However, despite the pundits' predictions and lots of early media buzz, she's failed to gain much traction and hasn't brought anything interesting to the policy table. So far, her campaign's biggest headline-grabber has been leaks about her horrible treatment of staff, bullying and terrorizing them. Most famous for reportedly eating a salad with a comb, and then forcing a staffer to wash that comb as punishment for forgetting her fork.

Made reporters wait out in a snowstorm for her announcement. And there were a lot of them there, since she was supposed to be the Great Midwestern Hope.

Beto O'Rourke

Remember that guy who everyone loved more than Ted Cruz? Well, it turned out that was a pretty low bar to clear. This Texas House Representative was popular during his ultimately unsuccessful Senate run, but is finding a much frostier reception on the national stage. A pro-business moderate who won the 2018 Prize for Civility for his cross-country road trip with a GOP representative, his campaign has been criticized for preferring vague empty rhetoric, and he's had a hard time connecting with those newfangled kids with awkward moves like livestreaming a dentist visit. The media loved him for a few months, but as other candidates have done better at usurping his role as "somewhat charismatic white centrist with lots of aspirational talk", his polling has collapsed and he probably won't be getting far now that his trademark move of standing on counters has apparently lost its luster.

One of the biggest losers of debate night 1. Doing bits of his answers in Spanish backfired when other candidates and even the moderators started asking him questions in Spanish while he stared blankly.

Tim Ryan

House member from Ohio, he's a conservative who suddenly lurched leftward as soon as he thought he'd been in the House long enough to start aiming for leadership positions. Is there any appetite for a guy who backed banning abortion as recently as 2015? I guess we'll find out, but so far the polls aren't looking good for him.

May secretly lust for the annihilation of the Earth.

Elizabeth Warren

Probably the only candidate almost everyone here has heard of, and the only one who's polling at more than a couple percent right now. A Harvard-educated lawyer, professor, and Massachusetts senator, she's most famous for her pro-consumer advocacy and being the driving force between the creation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. However, she's competing for basically the same voters as Bernie Sanders. Her history as a Republican who changed parties in the 90s and her openly identifying as a capitalist have made it difficult to win over the leftists and socialists most likely to support her pro-consumer economic policies. On top of that, her campaign has made a lot of dumb moves, such as putting a list of negative rumors about her on her website, and advising her to take a DNA test to see if she really had Native American ancestry that could be used to justify her identifying as a native for much of her life.

Still, she's easily in the top three farthest-left candidates we'll see in these debates, and her numerous detailed policy proposals and impassioned in-person speeches mean that she's managed to stay in the game, even though she's not a frontrunner. Debate night 1 was expected to be an easy event for her against no-hopers and nobodies, and she didn't disappoint.

Joe Biden

You've heard about this guy. But if you only started paying attention to politics over the last decade, you've probably heard about the guy who stood next to Obama doing nothing for eight years while the Onion invented a parody character based on him. Unfortunately, that's not the Joe Biden who's running for president. The Joe Biden who's running for president is the Joe Biden who opposed anti-segregation busing, the Joe Biden who made student loans bankruptcy-proof, the Joe Biden who gave Strom Thurmond's eulogy, the Joe Biden who invades womens' personal space without consent at every opportunity, the Joe Biden who ran twice for president only to fail miserably both times, and the Joe Biden who still defends all of that and insists that he's never done anything wrong in his entire life. His primary campaign platform is based on working with Republicans, and he's openly declared that he's convinced that Mitch McConnell will work with him to pass bipartisan progressive legislation.

He's spent the last week or so embroiled in trouble because he talked about his good working relationship with his old segregationist buddies. When Booker and De Blasio called him out and said bipartisan cooperation with literal white supremacists was unacceptable, he demanded that Booker apologize. Despite this and many other stupid moves, he's the frontrunner by a wide margin right now, to the dismay of pretty much everyone left of Bush, and most of the candidates are gunning for him right now.

His aides and advisors have been keeping him away from crowds and cameras as much as possible, fueling all sorts of speculation and rumors about his speaking ability, and he just got completely murdered during the debate. It's unlikely he's gone for good, but even the media and his own staffers are throwing him under the bus, so it doesn't look good for Diamond Joe.

Michael Bennet

Senator for Colorado. Conservative bipartisan moderate. Hickenlooper's protege. If you felt good about John Delaney and wanted to see more of him on the stage, this guy will probably be a pretty good substitute for him. I have nothing else to say about this guy, at all.

Pete Buttigieg

The Harvard-educated mayor of South Bend, Indiana, this guy has been treated as a young Democratic rising star for a couple years now. He's reasonably charismatic and the media absolutely loves him, but he has a preference for talking inspirational fluff rather than politics, and he doesn't have much of a political record to look at. Is gay and married. His support has been surging in recent months as he's largely stolen Beto's role, but his base is overwhelmingly white so far.

A recent police shooting of a black male under questionable circumstances in South Bend has thrown his failure to win over minorities into the spotlight, and he's widely considered to have badly mishandled his response to the shooting. He usually ranks in third or fourth place in polls, and his campaign has been fairly uninteresting so far. Did mediocre at best in the debate, where his failings in South Bend were brought up repeatedly.

Kirsten Gillibrand

A New York senator, and a former corporate defense attorney who defended Philip Morris execs facing litigation over their role in covering up the health effects of smoking. So boring that I couldn't even find a funny picture of her. While in the House, she was a conservative bipartisan moderate who voted against economic stimulus, voted for a ban on sanctuary cities, and had a 100% rating from the NRA. In the last few years, she's moved in a liberal direction on many of those issues, but it's hard to nail down exactly where she'll stand on the issues as president or how she stands out from the rest of the pack.

Her major distinguishing feature is her advocacy on women's issues. Most famously, she was one of the first Dems to call for Al Franken's resignation after the sexual assault allegations against him, long before the Dem establishment and donors got on board with that, and in recent years she's even spoken out against Bill Clinton. And as a result, there's a wing of the old Dem political establishment that absolutely loathes her.

As someone who's evolved on the issues over the years, she has some room to pivot, but she'll face a big challenge in convincing voters that her evolution is genuine.

Kamala Harris

Former Attorney General of California and current California Senator, this self-proclaimed "America's prosecutor" was expected to be a big contender, but she's been lagging. A standard center-left Democrat, socially liberal and economically centrist.

Her major distinguishing feature is her history as a California prosecutor. Her preference for tough-on-crime rhetoric and a tendency to see prosecution as the solution to every problem have come back to bite her in the era of Black Lives Matter, which has made it difficult for her to win over progressives.

She was originally expected to be the party establishment pick and attract most of the Dem loyalists and donors, but she's been largely eclipsed by Biden and has struggled to remain a contender, polling poorly even in her home state. She took a big bite out of him on the debate stage, though.

John Hickenlooper

Ex-governor of Colorado, socially liberal and economically conservative. Bipartisan moderate who believes the government should stay out of issues and let private business handle making America great.

Bernie Sanders

The guy everyone either loves to love or loves to hate, the independent self-proclaimed socialist Senator from Vermont who challenged Clinton in 2016 needs no introduction. He's been the fairly consistent #2 in polls, and unlike Biden, his speech performance hasn't declined despite his age. Everyone knows who this guy is, and I'm sure there'll be plenty of talk about him. No meltdowns, please.

Eric Swalwell

Who? I've never even heard of this guy, and I'm not going to bother reading up on him because there's no way he's going to be significant tonight or any other night. A quick Google says he's a Martin O'Malley supporter, which I didn't think was actually possible. Seriously, what? I guess he's a House member.

Marianne Williamson

An author and activist whose only political history is finishing fourth in a House race in California. Despite that, she's got better positions than at least half the candidates on this stage...for the most part. She wouldn't be out of place in the Green Party, mixing strong progressive policies like M4A and the Green New Deal with downright wacky stuff like antivax talk.

Her signature issue is reparations for slavery, having come out with the earliest and biggest proposal.

She's not a serious contender for the presidency, but her mixture of cool and crazy talk has earned her a meme fanbase after the debate.

Andrew Yang

A serial entrepeneur and venture capitalist, this is his first entry into politics. Even though he's an East Coaster, his policies are about what you'd expect from a Silicon Valley character. He often identifies the problems facing society, only to come up with solutions that are either badly flawed or downright stupid, like combating bad laws by passing a Constitutional amendment forcing all laws to have an automatic expiration date. Unfortunately, the demographic he's been most successful with are extremely online conservatives, who love his meme-heavy campaign and his inclination to talk about the problems most politicians tend to ignore (like AI and automation), and he's responding by being more appealing to them and going on their favorite shows and stuff.

His most famous and most widely advertised issue is the "Freedom Dividend", a UBI proposal that would give everyone $1k a month...except that you have to give up any other government benefits to get it, so the poor will benefit less than everyone else.

He's not polling well, but his willingness to talk about issues that no one else really wants to talk about make him a bit of a wildcard. It's unlikely he'll win, but he might be able to become a Ron Paul-style meme candidate...except that if the debate is any indication, he's not that great a speaker either.

Next debates are in late July, they will not have different qualifications as far as I know.

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This thread will now return to a 3 day probe minimum, behave you fucks. :siren:

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Grouchio: Aug 31, 2014

I want there to be candidates stepping down next week.

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:03

Koalas March: May 21, 2007

I voted for Booker but only because I bet someone like 5 years ago he'd become president and I want my $200

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:11

Raskolnikov38: Mar 3, 2007; We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

lmao Harris already walked back her support for abolishing private insurance again

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:14

Lycus: Aug 5, 2008; Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

Looks like the biggest disconnect between goon reaction and outsider reaction to the debates is Booty Judge.

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:15

Cerebral Bore: Apr 21, 2010; Fun Shoe

I'm just here to revel in Joe Biden's continued self-destruction.

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:16

punishedkissinger: Sep 20, 2017

Lycus posted:

Looks like the biggest disconnect between goon reaction and outsider reaction to the debates is Booty Judge.

I refuse to believe that Chucky doll looking weirdo is going to win this primary

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:18

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Raskolnikov38 posted:

lmao Harris already walked back her support for abolishing private insurance again

Some pharma lobbyist began to lower her big fat check from them into a shredder off camera

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:20

Potato Salad: Oct 23, 2014; nobody cares

Raskolnikov38 posted:

lmao Harris already walked back her support for abolishing private insurance again

I'm shocked. Stunned.

One thing that was cool about this debate was the ongoing confirmation that a lot of the centrists running present a material danger to the ~~continued~~ well being of the American peasantry just trying to hold down two contractor gig jobs with terrible or no health insurance while raising a kid who hopefully won't be shot in high school.

Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Jun 28, 2019

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:21

Hieronymous Alloy: Jan 30, 2009; Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!; Morbid Hound

Raskolnikov38 posted:

lmao Harris already walked back her support for abolishing private insurance again

Harris is really good at faking sincerity.

And once you can do that, . . .

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:22

Pollyanna: Mar 5, 2005; Milk's on them.

Lycus posted:

Looks like the biggest disconnect between goon reaction and outsider reaction to the debates is Booty Judge.

I�ve seen a tepid reception everywhere else too.

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:23

Gripweed: Nov 8, 2018; ASK ME ABOUT MY
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When should we expect the first post-debate polls?

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:23

cargo cult: Aug 28, 2008; by Reene

my centrist friend went from saying i was a shithead for suggesting warren wasnt left wing to saying that harris delivered a knockout blow while convicning him that she in fact was the most presidential

from what i saw it wasnt anything resembling a significant swipe against biden

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:24

TulliusCicero: Jul 29, 2017

Lycus posted:

Looks like the biggest disconnect between goon reaction and outsider reaction to the debates is Booty Judge.

It's because Fox News and CNN are full on covering the guy like he's a front runner and a top contender, and I'm just sitting here going "him, really?!"

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:26

Junior G-man: Sep 15, 2004; Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

Grouchio posted:

I want there to be candidates stepping down next week.

I want Joe Biden to be scraped across the pavement for another 3 months before he steps out. I need another Jeb!

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:27

Potato Salad: Oct 23, 2014; nobody cares

Gripweed posted:

When should we expect the first post-debate polls?

A week?

https://twitter.com/Schnorkles/status/1143729050499739649?s=19

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:29

QuoProQuid: Jan 12, 2012; Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
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Gripweed posted:

When should we expect the first post-debate polls?

538 and Morning Consult should have something out this evening

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:38

Democrazy: Oct 16, 2008; If you're not willing to lick the boot, then really why are you in politics lol? Everything is a cycle of just getting stomped on so why do you want to lose to it over and over, just submit like me, I'm very intelligent.

Despite having never given any money to a candidate before this cycle, today is payday, and I kinda wanna give to Marianne Williamson.

I just want to see how far we can take this.

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:40

TulliusCicero: Jul 29, 2017

Democrazy posted:

Despite having never given any money to a candidate before this cycle, today is payday, and I kinda wanna give to Marianne Williamson.

I just want to see how far we can take this.

Please don't make Dianne from Cheers and Frasier the Meme Magic President in 2020

Thank you

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:41

Typical Pubbie: May 10, 2011

Oh, bernie. :/

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:41

Koalas March: May 21, 2007

TulliusCicero posted:

Please don't make Dianne from Cheers and Frasier the Meme Magic President in 2020

Thank you

Also Cheers and Frasier are on Netflix start with Cheers and you'll realize why electing Diane is a bad idea tia

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:42

Democrazy: Oct 16, 2008; If you're not willing to lick the boot, then really why are you in politics lol? Everything is a cycle of just getting stomped on so why do you want to lose to it over and over, just submit like me, I'm very intelligent.

TulliusCicero posted:

Please don't make Dianne from Cheers and Frasier the Meme Magic President in 2020

Thank you

I know that�s the logical thing to do, but like, what if she made that call to the Prime Minister of New Zealand?

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:44

Gripweed: Nov 8, 2018; ASK ME ABOUT MY
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Democrazy posted:

Despite having never given any money to a candidate before this cycle, today is payday, and I kinda wanna give to Marianne Williamson.

I just want to see how far we can take this.

The second debate is going to have fewer people on stage at a time, so that means they'll all get more time to talk. I really want to see a debate where Marianne gets more time to talk and the moderators give the other candidates follow up questions based on what she said

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:45

Skippy McPants: Mar 19, 2009

I've been thinking about it since last night, and I'm having trouble coming up a more thorough political suicide than Biden's. I mean, we haven't seen any polls yet but every other campaign crippling gaff I can call to mind: Dukakis playing toy soldiers, the Dean Scream, Clinton daring to show emotion, "Please Clap," even Mr. Burns spitting out that drat fish. They all seem like peanuts compared Harris' skewering of Biden.

If that performance doesn't at least seriously dent his lead then I don't even know what to say except maybe burn the whole motherfucker down.

Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Jun 28, 2019

# ? Jun 28, 2019 13:59

Groovelord Neato: Dec 6, 2014

gotta give props to harris for the knifing but she's gotta be the most dishonest of the front runners. you knew what they are asking. you know what you were doing when you said you weren't going to aipac and then hosted them at your office.

# ? Jun 28, 2019 14:00

Democrazy: Oct 16, 2008; If you're not willing to lick the boot, then really why are you in politics lol? Everything is a cycle of just getting stomped on so why do you want to lose to it over and over, just submit like me, I'm very intelligent.

My serious analysis is that a secret winner of this debate might be Bernie Sanders. While he didn�t do anything spectacular in the debate, he didn�t do anything too bad, and debates were never going to be his strong suit, anyway. He also is likely to benefit from Biden�s meltdown, as there has been some polling showing an overlap between Biden and Bernie�s support.

# ? Jun 28, 2019 14:01

Hyrax Attack!: Jan 13, 2009; We demand to be taken seriously

Raskolnikov38 posted:

lmao Harris already walked back her support for abolishing private insurance again

I�m 100% in favor of Canada style healthcare for all America, but isn�t it a moot point in America unless the Democrats have 60 senators?

# ? Jun 28, 2019 14:05

Groovelord Neato: Dec 6, 2014

the democrats could and should invoke the nuclear option (which would require only a majority to pass legislation) if they get unitary control.

# ? Jun 28, 2019 14:08

punishedkissinger: Sep 20, 2017

Hyrax Attack! posted:

I’m 100% in favor of Canada style healthcare for all America, but isn’t it a moot point in America unless the Democrats have 60 senators?

It's even more of a moot point if there are no Democrats fighting for it, or if Democrats are fighting against it.

# ? Jun 28, 2019 14:08

VH4Ever: Oct 1, 2005; by sebmojo

Democrazy posted:

My serious analysis is that a secret winner of this debate might be Bernie Sanders. While he didn�t do anything spectacular in the debate, he didn�t do anything too bad, and debates were never going to be his strong suit, anyway. He also is likely to benefit from Biden�s meltdown, as there has been some polling showing an overlap between Biden and Bernie�s support.

Basically at this point, I'll take any event that fucks Biden over and prevents anyone but Bernie or Warren from winning. One, the other or both.

# ? Jun 28, 2019 14:09

Punk da Bundo: Dec 29, 2006; by FactsAreUseless

Marianne would make a better president than the lifeless limp lanyard liberals on stage . Only Bernie would be better. Name one other person up there besides Bernie on her level . You can�t .

# ? Jun 28, 2019 14:14

Quorum: Sep 24, 2014; REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

Substitute the second debates for a Thunderdome/Hunger Games style gladiatorial combat, IMO. Anyone left after that can go on to the third debates.

Wanna see Bernie raise hell about millionaires and billionaires while chasing Hickenlooper with a nerf bat

Quorum fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Jun 28, 2019

# ? Jun 28, 2019 14:18

VitalSigns: Sep 3, 2011

Hyrax Attack! posted:

I�m 100% in favor of Canada style healthcare for all America, but isn�t it a moot point in America unless the Democrats have 60 senators?

Filibuster can be nuked with 51 votes, that's why Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are on the Supreme Court

# ? Jun 28, 2019 14:18

Grouchio: Aug 31, 2014

Are there any videos/memes of Harris killing Biden live onstage?

# ? Jun 28, 2019 14:20

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

I expect if Harris is the nominee that she will shift to the right more than a lot of other candidates might

# ? Jun 28, 2019 14:25

TulliusCicero: Jul 29, 2017

Punk da Bundo posted:

Marianne would make a better president than the lifeless limp lanyard liberals on stage . Only Bernie would be better. Name one other person up there besides Bernie on her level . You can�t .

Warren's eager hand raising Hermione energy is pretty great, I dunno

# ? Jun 28, 2019 14:27

Groovelord Neato: Dec 6, 2014

FlamingLiberal posted:

I expect if Harris is the nominee that she will shift to the right more than a lot of other candidates might

no question.

# ? Jun 28, 2019 14:27

Gripweed: Nov 8, 2018; ASK ME ABOUT MY
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https://twitter.com/BoxrecGrey/status/1144495391221485568

# ? Jun 28, 2019 14:27

TulliusCicero: Jul 29, 2017

Gripweed posted:

https://twitter.com/BoxrecGrey/status/1144495391221485568

This owns so hard

# ? Jun 28, 2019 14:29

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Grouchio: Aug 31, 2014

FlamingLiberal posted:

I expect if Harris is the nominee that she will shift to the right more than a lot of other candidates might

Is she at the very least pro-climate and pro-infrastructure?

# ? Jun 28, 2019 14:29

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