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Who do you wish to win the Democratic primaries? This poll is closed. |
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| Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher |
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18 | 1.46% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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665 | 54.11% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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319 | 25.96% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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26 | 2.12% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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17 | 1.38% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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3 | 0.24% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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8 | 0.65% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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86 | 7.00% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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23 | 1.87% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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32 | 2.60% |
| Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy |
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2 | 0.16% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.08% |
| Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated |
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4 | 0.33% |
| Tim Ryan, the Dope Face |
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3 | 0.24% |
| John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran |
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7 | 0.57% |
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Groovelord Neato posted:the sanders ep got as many views in less than a day than rogan's most popular episodes get in a month. No you see, Bernie may have spent an hour forcefully advocating for leftist ideas for an audience of literally over 2.2 million people, but Rogan had a chud as a guest once and hence this is actually bad.
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Chilichimp posted:Or it'll push some Bernie Bros to watch more Joe Rogan... and then some Jordan Petersen... and then some Sargon of Akad... This is the dumbest thing I've seen in a while, and let me tell you all why. See, there seems to exist this nonsense unspoken assumption in certain liberal circles that media outlets aren't good or bad because of what's being said on them but they're somehow just intrinsically is good or bad. We see here an unironic claim resting on the idea that it apparently literally doesn't matter what Bernie says on the Joe Rogan show, because the show somehow is inherently corrupting and will lead people down a slippery slope to chudhood as if it were the loving One Ring or something. Now, normally you'd think that if Bernie spends an hour promoting socialism it would, assuming that he does a good job, sway people towards his point of view and Bernie would be the person that the viewer gets interested in, but no, apparently the siren song of the media outlet itself traps the listener and turns them into a raging Joe Rogan fanatic first and foremost that will uncritically believe anything they find on the channel. Or at least I think this is the assumption here, because I can't find anything else that could possibly lead to Chilichimp's conclusion. Needles to say, this is just absurd. I guess it's some weird extension of team politics where some media outlets are just on the good guy side and hence all the others must be evil and corrupting. steinrokkan posted:A good, moral candidate should be kept in a locked vault at an unspecified location, and should never be revealed until after the election. Ah, the extremely successful Hillary/Biden strategy. Cerebral Bore fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Aug 7, 2019 |
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sexpig by night posted:seriously Rogan sucks but his entire interview style is just going 'so (insert thing the guest has already said a bunch)? Wild!' and letting the guest ramble on and on, why would someone like Sanders not exploit such a dingus with a huge audience of people who, statistically, are exactly in the meaty part of the 'would be open to your ideas, but are unmotivated to vote' curve? Seriously. He got an hour to basically make his case free of the usual bullshit, he reached millions, many of which he wouldn't have otherwise, everything so far indicates that his message is resonating and to top it all off he got the whole drat thing for free. Objectively speaking it was a loving coup of Bernie's part, which is why the usual suspects are once again reduced to casting aspersions on where he appeared instead of any actually substantial criticism.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Wait wait wait.... Government infrastructure isn't inherently leftist policy. Hitler built the Autobahn, after all.
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Aug 7, 2019 21:36
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:This is the exact opposite of what is happening here. This is a specific policy that is being pointed out and specific arguments as to why it is better. Are there, though? I haven't seen anyone actually present an argument for why Warren's plan would lead to better outcomes, at most it just seems to be people operating under the assumption that more details = better. Also the problem with Warren's plans isn't the detail or lack thereof, it's that pretty often they turn out to be bad plans on closer examination which casts the whole competence narrative around her into serious doubt.
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Aug 7, 2019 22:16
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Skex posted:I'm genuinely curious what you and the other "Leftists" ITT consider Leftism to be, because I personally view it as just being pro collectivism and anti-authoritarianism contrasting with it's opposite of Rightism" which is pro-authoritarianism and a belief in "exceptionalism of the individual" but given how so many of you seem to believe that it's something that can be applied from the top down by force leads me to suspect that your definition is quite a bit different. I'm genuinely curious how this poo poo has even the most tenuous connection to the post of mine that you quoted.
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:And there is one principle I mentioned above: even if Warren's plans are only about 90-95% similar to Sanders' in many respects, she will advocate for abolishing the Senate filibuster. If this comes to pass and she is President, her plans may actually become reality. See, this is some serious galaxy brain poo poo here. Are we actually supposed the believe that Bernie loving Sanders, the guy who has waged a dogged one-man war to realize his political goals for over four decades by now, would just throw up his hands and admit defeat when faced by US Senate procedural bullshit? Are you talking about some alternate dimension Bernie Sanders or what?
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Aug 7, 2019 22:58
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Skex posted:Because you insist on demonizing "liberals" and attacking anyone whose views of Leftist aren't sufficiently pure enough so I'm curious how you define these concepts as they don't seem to track with how these terms are generally used or at least how I see them used. And it's really not conducive to debate if we're not using words to mean the same thing. Personally it seems like you and others use it to describe what I and most of society would define as Conservatives or Moderates and it kind of reminds me of that thing that "agnostics" do where they try to pretend that they aren't really atheists by drawing out some weird "3rd way" by complicating the definition. Then again maybe I'm just missing something here, I'm just a dumb self educated Jar head who couldn't afford to go to college (time or money) so maybe I'm just not getting what your point is. Well for starters liberals are garbage, hth. Secondly US political discourse is hosed six ways to Sunday and doesn't match how political ideologies are commonly understood in the rest of the world. Finally political ideologies are actually pretty well-defined concepts in the political science sense, and the different ideologies do have certain basic tenets that you have to subscribe to in order to count as an adherent of said ideology. For example and to summarize, just because you consider yourself a liberal doesn't mean that you are one. Hope this clears things up. Cerebral Bore fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Aug 7, 2019 |
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theblackw0lf posted:Trump says something actually true (but also applies to him) Yea, in case you haven't noticed that's literally Trump's favorite trick. He'd eat Biden alive.
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Chilichimp posted:Yeah, I don't think anyone who would vote for a democrat actually cares. Would you perhaps describe it as a "nothingburger"?
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Aug 10, 2019 20:18
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:Sure, and while I'm at it, I'll eagerly anticipate Trump revealing that he's a lizard person from the planet Zarg too. The idea that Donald Trump (or the FBI) would never blatantly abuse their power for personal advantage is kind of a new one in the hot take collection, I gotta say.
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:This isn't that and you know it; please try to be intellectually honest. The FBI is not going to do this, and any investigation by Trump's DOJ is going to look hilariously politically motivated. The only people who will believe there's any "there" there are people already in his camp. Trump suffers from a credibility gap that's the size of the Grand Canyon; no one that isn't a chud trusts a single word that comes out of his mouth. "The FBI aren't going to do that", he said a little less than three years after the FBI director torpedoed Hillary. Now imagine what they'd be willing to pull if somebody who actually threatens the elites gets the nomination.
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