Who do you wish to win the Democratic primaries? This poll is closed. |
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Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher | 18 | 1.46% | |
Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer | 665 | 54.11% | |
Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker | 319 | 25.96% | |
Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord | 26 | 2.12% | |
Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe | 5 | 0.41% | |
Julian Castro, the Twin | 5 | 0.41% | |
Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer | 5 | 0.41% | |
Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath | 17 | 1.38% | |
Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino | 3 | 0.24% | |
Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist | 8 | 0.65% | |
Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen | 86 | 7.00% | |
Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater | 23 | 1.87% | |
Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool | 32 | 2.60% | |
Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy | 2 | 0.16% | |
Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast | 1 | 0.08% | |
Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated | 4 | 0.33% | |
Tim Ryan, the Dope Face | 3 | 0.24% | |
John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran | 7 | 0.57% | |
Total: | 1229 votes |
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I can't help but be very frustrated watching Bernie over the past few months. His ideas and plans are so good and yet he refuses to ever deviate in the messaging. Let's not ever engage in anyone's personal identity and instead focus on everyone but lets also not talk about togetherness, just the end result of an upheaval. Is it really that difficult for him to have said last night, "Yes, their taxes will go up. They will also save money and never have to worry about what happens to their partner's treatment if they lose their jobs." These fixes are soooooo easy fmpov and I get so very frustrated that he lives in his stump instead of talking at a micro level ever. I see these things and think that anyone who doesn't already actually know what he stands for isn't going to come around on his ideas. He isn't tackling the boogeymen our society has turned Policies That Help Poor People into, he is just repeating ad nauseam what we need. e: oh and god drat it am I pissed off about the pre-debate. Those ghouls talked about everyone but Bernie and kept implying that Bernie couldn't fight Trump. Like, are you kidding? Angry old man only knows the warrior's way. Diqnol fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Jun 28, 2019 |
# ¿ Jun 28, 2019 18:34 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 04:30 |
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Trabisnikof posted:Did yall not hear when Bernie said: It was a meandering way that I felt diminished the final message
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2019 18:43 |
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hobotrashcanfires posted:Please explain how to do it better in a garbage clown car debate when prompted with a setup for sound bite attack fodder. You have 10 seconds. If he talked about an american's bottom line going down but that technically yes taxes go up instead, I think it'd be a lot more persuasive. I'm no political analyst, though, just someone who believes in a message that has recently felt very stale and unable to adapt. Yes, it was a hostile and ridiculous venue. It still matters, though.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2019 18:59 |
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kidkissinger posted:that's exactly what he said though Technically yes but in a watered down way wherein he rattles off various costs of our current system. That doesn't resonate like "Yes, but they will pay less money overall and gain security for their families" to me. Do you or other posters here believe his messaging has been good? I think it's his biggest and glaring weakness because the ideas can win people over on their own. If he could sell them too? I'd be a happy man.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2019 19:05 |
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I mean I can't even be that mad at this concept because it's very true that a great deal of potential is lost in modern society because people aren't free to pursue what they can really contribute to it.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2019 22:53 |
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Calibanibal posted:Bernie's lack of interest in medical debt erasure is easily explainable -- this debt is primarily an issue for the elderly and women, who do not support Bernie. Contrast that with student debt erasure, which is mostly an issue for the youth. Bernie's positions dont come from a moral or ideological center --- they are simply cold, mercenary exchanges lmao, I love your gimmick man
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2019 21:51 |
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I think that a guy who believes our country is hosed and needs foundational rebuilding should quietly state his case as it is clear that decorum is what the road to change is paved with instead of blowing out my fiancee's eardrums with an acknowledgement of suffering she doesn't personally experience. FTW.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2019 03:09 |
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Is the database for those maps from the FEC? If so, I wonder why my donation isn't in there. Could it be because I did it through ActBlue?
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2019 04:48 |
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Ytlaya posted:No significant change would ever be possible if it had to be done in a way that preserves the value of peoples' retirement accounts. This had never occurred to me, actually. Is it possible that old people are sort of held hostage by potential market volatility and that's why they vote for bland turds like Biden?
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2019 17:51 |
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VitalSigns posted:Yes. Right but it also means that a rather large number of people will be unreachable in an election because the hosed system we have forces those people to vote against their beliefs. God drat it.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2019 18:10 |
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theblackw0lf posted:To be fair he was also worked for Bill Clinton at NSC. The DINO Supporter
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2019 20:13 |
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BristolSOF posted:Fixed for you Do you want to explain why you think this?
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2019 14:40 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 04:30 |
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Chilichimp posted:I eagerly await his reply, and also same question to the "warren would" poster from just above. Well, Warren has already shown personal weakness and a willingness to accept the narrative put upon her/play her opponents’ game. Has Bernie?
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2019 17:59 |