Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
Who do you wish to win the Democratic primaries?
This poll is closed.
Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher 18 1.46%
Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer 665 54.11%
Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker 319 25.96%
Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord 26 2.12%
Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe 5 0.41%
Julian Castro, the Twin 5 0.41%
Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer 5 0.41%
Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath 17 1.38%
Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino 3 0.24%
Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist 8 0.65%
Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen 86 7.00%
Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater 23 1.87%
Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool 32 2.60%
Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy 2 0.16%
Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast 1 0.08%
Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated 4 0.33%
Tim Ryan, the Dope Face 3 0.24%
John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran 7 0.57%
Total: 1229 votes
[Edit Poll (moderators only)]

 
  • Post
  • Reply
Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

TulliusCicero posted:

Lol at the people melting down about loving Harry Potter comparisons

Like I don't think JK Rowling is some master of literature either, but jesus folks popular culture is a thing

From now on I demand all political candidates be compared to Gregor from Metamorphosis, or Raskolnikov from Crime and Punishment :colbert:

i'm not sure if Game of Thrones is better or worse.

Hopefully in a few years it'll be Dune.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Koalas March posted:

Solvent, I don't expect white people to give up anything. That's why I'm occasionally pleasantly surprised, but never disappointed. White people want to hold on to their privilege with an iron fist. Which is exactly the problem???

The worst part of the discourse elevating racial privilege but suppressing class is that it just made white people more desperate to cling their their perceived privilege even if the value has dropped from 'guaranteed entry in the middle class as long as you go through the proper motions' to 'maybe won't be shot by the cops as much'. It's been entirely in cooperation with the fascist narrative that as long as you conform you will be rewarded even when it stopped being true when the Cold War ended and capitalism didn't need to try anymore.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I think the thing is that the other candidates are wrong and bad in ways that liberals still have to be trained out of accepting as a given while there is a pre-existing and extremely justified and good backlash to the slightest whiff of anti-vax because it's something you immediately have to put your foot down on as firmly as possible.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I'm pretty sure most billionaires have bought into their own lies and think renewables are fake and gay.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Hasn't Bernie been polling best in New Hampshire for a while? And his ground game is focused there. If he wins the first primary then the 'electability' voters are gonna switch fast, Biden will in all likelihood crash hard. After that the question is how the establishment responds.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

This is actually terrifyingly on point.

And I presume donors tossing pocket change to the diversity hire

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Skippy McPants posted:

What's really gonna suck is when he comes back 4-12 years down the line and runs as a serious contender.

By then America will be either socialist or fascist and either way he will not be viable.


VH4Ever posted:

Biden down to a 6 point lead from what, like over 15 or whatever before? After one debate.

Yeah, thing is about Biden's popularity is that once it goes down it's almost certainly going to stay down, because it's a mix of name recognition and 'electability', both of which are extremely flaky and will flee the moment someone else appears remotely viable or says something that actually gets their attention. And Biden has failed miserably in every single competitive election he's run in even when he wasn't obviously senile.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Kind of the point is that 2016 made it very clear that the neoliberal political order was always unsustainable and is now a rotting, tilting mess waiting to keel over at the slightest pressure, and everything since then has gone on to prove it.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Cerebral Bore posted:

You're talking as if the Dem establishment wouldn't go full Quisling the moment that the fash take over.

Which isn't gonna stop Republicans taking absolute glee in publicly persecuting them.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Wealthy women are getting really pissed at how they spent years ingratiating themselves with the imperial machine only to now be told that it's 'evil' and 'unsustainable' and 'fundamentally built around inequality and white supremacy' when it was just about to be their turn to be on top and enjoy exploiting and oppressing everyone else.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
For every begrudging voter there's probably at least a dozen who just choose at that point to tune out and stay home.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
At worst, Williamson is slightly less out of touch with reality than the rest of the establishment Democrats.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The difference is though that I don't think Bernie is going to shrug and go silent forever on the issue like Obama did about Guantanamo.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Either she was cynically exploiting it expecting it to never be questioned or credulous enough to believe it without evidence and think it gives her legitimacy, either way doesn't make it look any better.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

RuanGacho posted:

Okay my tax plan is we take 50% of all the money, as determined by whom has the most of it, if you're making less you dont ever pay taxes.

The IRS is now configured like the Kaiju monitoring center from Pacific Rim.

Also build giant robots to crush the rich

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
It just means they change the standards to totally incidentally require more 'well off white people' flags, like suddenly the focus on extracurriculars when Asians were topping the exam scores.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Z. Autobahn posted:

I feel like this is much harder to do in the context of a job interview than a college admissions process

It's actually way easier!

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

kidkissinger posted:

hell yeah! i was kinda bummed out that Cardi B was going through what I perceived to be a libertarian phase

every libertarian turns out to be a socialist or fascist in the long run

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Sundae posted:

I'm not sure America is ready for an Avatar-loving president yet. Let's take baby steps this time and settle for whichever candidate has the most positive opinion of Jar Jar Binks.

That's probably Trump.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Really does seem to be getting to the point where even a lot of committed liberals are starting to realise how terrible so much of the party actually is and how disingenuous and cowardly the people they're told are so brave and principled actually are, especially when compared to actual leftists. And that the Republicans consider them all equally commie scum and have no plans to spare any of them.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

RuanGacho posted:

Is this a bad time to support a Kaiju demolishing the white house so we can start fresh?

Ghidorah for President, VP and SoS

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
America's ruling classes are intensely hosed up.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Majorian posted:

Yeah, this is such a weird anecdote to tell. I somehow doubt East Bay resident A traveled into SF for the purpose of killing East Bay resident B. Yet Harris is saying that that's what happens, since, according to her, it's cheaper.

It's not supposed to make sense, it's supposed to mocking the idea of mercy.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Isn't it still mostly people with landlines who answer unknown numbers?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

steinrokkan posted:

Now that's the sort of smooth brain analysis I live for.

What does it say when angry nerds can destroy your entire political institution

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Gripweed posted:

I'm not gonna read the article but I assume they're threatening to SWAT critics of Harris?

An easy assumption. Pretty much all the talk of BernieBros is projection.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Your Boy Fancy posted:

So there’s this website called Facebook

I've got some bad news for you about Clinton fans

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Literally 99% of the complaining about Bernie is 'stop making us look bad' and the rest is about transparent lies.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

VitalSigns posted:

This is an outrageous allegation, you can't prove Northam was in blackface when he could have been the guy in the KKK hood. It's impossible to ever know, because he wore blackface so much he can't remember which particular photos of blackface were of him.

that photo is just loving art on the highest level

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The well known viable candidate without rear end in a top hat dipshits internet stanning for them:

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Lol unironic 'demographics are destiny' too

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The Republicans already have a plan to counter demographic change and it is in action

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
So Bernie Sanders has dragged liberals kicking and screaming into giving token concessions to his extremely popular policies and you say the left should shut up be grateful and immediately stop doing everything that's been working for them after they were shut out of the process for decades?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Harris and Warren aren't even going to wait for the general to ditch everything they begrudgingly lifted from Bernie's platform.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

KingNastidon posted:

No, I'm attempting to discourage you dying in armed conflict if Bernie Sanders loses the democratic primary. I think the pairing of such rhetoric alongside a 80+ page mental health and depression thread is worrisome, but irony I suppose.

Well you're not doing a very good job, maybe you should look into actions you can take to decrease the likelihood of desperate violence!

BTW, there are already going to be billions of climate refugees and mass destabilisation of entire countries. What's your plan?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
He's running interference for fascists, for all intents and purposes.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
It's already clear that establishment Democrats are quite happy to steal elections from leftists while allowing Republicans to steal elections from them. What can you say to that?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
You really haven't realised that the Republicans are going to end democracy rather than accept obsolescence, and they are going to make a goddamn reality TV show out of publicly executing Democrats to keep the masses appeased while the planet boils.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
You can really tell Harris has the full backing of Clinton campaign veterans.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Lycus posted:

Why have the nonsensical debt forgiveness part at all? If you want a fund for minority businesses, just do that. Unless you're trying to piggyback on Sanders and Warren while trying to be more centrist.

Neoliberals genuinely think the strings attached make it more impressive.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply