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Who do you wish to win the Democratic primaries?
This poll is closed.
Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher 18 1.46%
Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer 665 54.11%
Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker 319 25.96%
Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord 26 2.12%
Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe 5 0.41%
Julian Castro, the Twin 5 0.41%
Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer 5 0.41%
Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath 17 1.38%
Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino 3 0.24%
Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist 8 0.65%
Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen 86 7.00%
Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater 23 1.87%
Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool 32 2.60%
Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy 2 0.16%
Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast 1 0.08%
Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated 4 0.33%
Tim Ryan, the Dope Face 3 0.24%
John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran 7 0.57%
Total: 1229 votes
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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
M4A polls well with freaking Republicans as policy. Most people against it are wilfully misunderstanding it at this point, at best.

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Dynasties never go away until they are destroyed.

Or centrists. The success of Obama's centrism means you need more centrism. The failure of Hillary's centrism means you need more centrism.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Bernie's doing a better job of staying on brand than anyone else. Anger must keep you spry.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The whole 'I have friends who are frightened and traumatised by Bernie' thing has been a recurring feature of this thread. Never the poster themselves.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

yronic heroism posted:

Last I checked the vast majority of political discussion is about other issues, even in our hellscape Democratic primary debates. So it’s a strawman to say Russia is discussed to the exclusion of all else.

Not for lack of trying.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
What is fat? A miserable pile of secrets!

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
We've had how many woke rapists now? Woke incel shooter is just the next step.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

FlamingLiberal posted:

I appreciate that he is crazy enough to defend the TPP which absolutely no one wanted

It's amazing how much of an own goal that was.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Ytlaya posted:

I'm not sure if "Buttigieg becoming better at pretending to be progressive" is particularly desirable. I feel like it's actually been a massing blessing in disguise that Democratic politicians have been so bad at faking left-wing politics. All it would take is someone being a good actor and lying through their teeth, and I think they could succeed at tricking enough people to defuse any legitimate left-wing movement. But fortunately all these people are incapable of pulling off a convincing imitation.

This also extends to how they probably could have co-opted AOC and other leftists in the long run, but their complete inability to stop enabling Republicans means that having any kind of consistent moral standards inevitably brings them into conflict and having extremely normal ones on twitter about how those ungrateful undecorous leftists won't even vote to fund the concentration camps, and the Republicans won't go along with the attempt to draw a divide and gladly take the excuse to paint all Democrats as filthy socialists anyway.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

cargo cult posted:

arent all the white zoomers nazis

They're overwhelmingly socialists, the nazis are just the only ones who get to be on the news.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Terror Sweat posted:

It’s called consolidation. Strengthen governments and corporations, weaken individuals. With taxes, this can be done imperceptibly over time.

In 1945, corporations paid 50 percent of federal taxes. Now they pay about 5 percent. In 1900, 90 percent of Americans were self-employed; now it’s about two percent.

Corporations are so big, you don't even know who you're working for. That's terror. Terror built into the system. Do you ever ask what it's all for? The surveillance, the police, the shoot-on-sight laws? Is that freedom?

Calm down, Colonel, here's your scissors.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Trabisnikof posted:

They’re only unreachable so long as you offer them no believable alternative. That’s why the jobs guarantee is a critical part of the GND. If we’re going to get people to go along with the massive changes we need we have to promise to bring them along too.

This is the key thing, and utter anathema to a lot of liberals who've bought into the 'meritocracy' myth.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

TrixR4kids posted:

It's so weird because he said the president supports white supremacy and, "there isn't much of a distinction" (paraphrasing) but then won't go as far as calling him one despite there being no real risk in doing so because.... :shrug:
Wait really?

He's at best annoyed at Trump for giving the game away

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
It's not like there's a shortage of work that needs to be done, see your country's crumbling infrastructure, the shortage is of employers who are willing to pay people to do it.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

tylersayten posted:

To get back at Trump for the Pocahontas thing. I wish I was joking.

Well, it's not like spite runs based on revenge for petty insults don't have a history of working out at this point...

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Jack2142 posted:

I mean he also had no record so people could just project whatever fantasies they had on a prospective Trump presidency. Now he has a record and it sucks poo poo and has provided numerous examples of his utter suck for most Americans. He has his floor, but I think his ceiling is a lot lower this time around. It probably plummets even further if we have a recession before the election and they tie it all back to his tariff slap fights with everyone.

Eh, depends on when he gets full on back in election mode and the media continues to cling to him like a smitten teenager to provide a megaphone to get his base into full on death cult mode.

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