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Moon Slayer posted:Hail gay
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What's this? An update? No, sorry. I know it's been a minute, but this was always supposed to be more experimental than an actual full-fledged LP, pretty much because the setting was cool. That said, I've got some free time now and I've decided to finally go for a legislative LP, which I've thought about doing for a very long while. And with CK3 just announced, I figure there's no better time than now, so I'm in the midst of planning that. I've come up with a system I reckon will be very fun (and chaotic), but I'm not 100% set on which country just yet, so if anyone's got any ideas then throw them at me. Right now there's three main choices: - Kingdom of Jerusalem in 1099, this is my leading choice right now, and you guys will effectively be feudal vassals - Republic of Venice, not sure when - Papal States, slightly more difficult to get set up, but could be interesting Also, I'll be implementing a bunch of events and heresies and stuff to shake things up a bit, so if anyone's got ideas on that front then throw those at me too (or PM me, if you like). hashashash fucked around with this message at 13:26 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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Oct 21, 2019 13:02
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YES! I'll vote for Kingdom of Jerusalem, but I'll be happy with the others as well.
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Oct 21, 2019 15:43
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Welcome back! I'm voting for Republic of Venice, but the other ideas sound extremely promising. I will PM you some ideas in the near future.
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Oct 21, 2019 15:50
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What could go wrong in the Most Serene Republic of Venice?
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Oct 21, 2019 15:54
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MERCHANTS!! 
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Oct 21, 2019 15:58
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Volunteering to be the increasingly unreliable Dukes of Galilee, culture: Horse
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Oct 21, 2019 16:02
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In light of the below, I'll vote for the Kingdom of Jerusalem.
MaxieSatan fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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Oct 21, 2019 16:03
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Obliterati posted:Volunteering to be the increasingly unreliable Dukes of Galilee, culture: Horse If we go with Jerusalem then this is pretty much what'll happen. I'll go into more detail later, but participants will 'claim' a character from within the Kingdom (from dukes to barons to courtiers, each having differing levels of influence in the parliament), and you'll be stuck with that dynasty through its highs and lows, until they're either exterminated or you choose to drop them. For Venice or Papacy, there would obviously be a different system in place.
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Oct 21, 2019 16:04
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Jerusalem sounds cool, so let's go with that.
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Oct 21, 2019 16:59
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Remind me. Early Venice is under the Byzantine thumb, isn't it? Trying to break out from that before the standard infighting around here could be interesting.
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Oct 21, 2019 17:03
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I'd like to see the Jerusalem game, though Venice sounds fun too.
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Oct 21, 2019 17:21
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Pope game sounds intriguing 
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Oct 21, 2019 17:35
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Jerusalem sounds like a good time.
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Oct 21, 2019 17:45
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I'll vote for the eventual Cathar Queen of Jerusalem
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Oct 21, 2019 18:37
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Another vote for Jerusalem.
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Oct 21, 2019 18:42
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Jerusalem
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Oct 21, 2019 19:26
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I’m voting for Venice, but only if you implement the insane voting process the Serene Republic used for the Doge:quote:New regulations for the elections of the doge introduced in 1268 remained in force until the end of the republic in 1797. Their intention was to minimize the influence of individual great families, and this was effected by a complex electoral machinery. Thirty members of the Great Council, chosen by lot, were reduced by lot to nine; the nine chose forty and the forty were reduced by lot to twelve, who chose twenty-five. The twenty-five were reduced by lot to nine, and the nine elected forty-five. These forty-five were once more reduced by lot to eleven, and the eleven finally chose the forty-one who elected the doge.[19] Election required at least twenty-five votes out of forty-one, nine votes out of eleven or twelve, or seven votes out of nine electors.[20] A detailed description of this process, and the ceremonial procession that followed, is preserved in Martin Da Canale's work Les Estoires de Venise
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Oct 21, 2019 19:45
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Sign me up to be a flamboyant schemer in some kingdom. e: actual vote below. habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Oct 22, 2019 |
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Oct 21, 2019 20:19
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I vote for Venice!
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Oct 21, 2019 21:05
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I don't know if I have the stomach for another legislative LP but I'll for sure read the OP's posts for Jerusalem.
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Oct 21, 2019 21:12
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Triskelli posted:I’m voting for Venice, but only if you implement the insane voting process the Serene Republic used for the Doge: It sounds like they were trying to prevent exactly the shenanigans that go on in regular Crusader Kings 2 Merchant Republics(either buying out the election or assassinating the competition). How to stop it? Give too many stages and too many people to deal with. Bloodly fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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Oct 21, 2019 21:13
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On the grounds that the other two already had LPs, Venice
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Oct 21, 2019 21:27
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Bloodly posted:It sounds like they were trying to prevent exactly the shenanigans that go on in regular Crusader Kings 2 Merchant Republics(either buying out the election or assassinating the competition). How to stop it? Give too many stages and too many people to deal with. It sounds like a lot of steps though, so a compromise might be to decide policy by random lot: Everyone writes down their policy for the next update, then Hashim rolls a 1dX to see what wins.
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Oct 21, 2019 22:26
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Venice
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Oct 21, 2019 22:45
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Jerusalem I think a country is fair game two generations later. It'll be fun to compare the two runs anyhow :v
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Oct 21, 2019 23:04
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Alright, let's showdown. Venice just to do see how the time skip affects gameplay. Sounds neat.
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Oct 21, 2019 23:31
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Venice
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Oct 22, 2019 01:47
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I'd be very up for Venice if Hashim is willing to let us do the wild stupid amazeballs multi stage voting thing. Even knocking it down to a two phase "a random 1/2 of the thread participants pick a council of 7 from the remaining participants to pass laws for this update" it'd be wild. E.g. if we have 40 people contributing regularly, 20 are picked at random and select 7 of the remaining 20 to give Hashim the thread's input for the next phase.
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Oct 22, 2019 03:03
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I'll be happy to vote Jerusalem just to avoid the crazy shenanigans people want about Venice politics. It sounds like just the kind of thing we'd be able to stand for like one session before it grows really loving stale.
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Oct 22, 2019 15:22
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I’d be cool with either Jerusalem or the Papacy. The legislative component and goon incompetence seems like an effective way of minimizing blobbing for either choice.
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Oct 22, 2019 15:53
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Venice if Hashim thinks Kangxi's ideas are super cool, but I'm also fine with Jerusalem if not. So I guess count this as a half/half vote. (sorry pope)
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Oct 22, 2019 18:23
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Yeah looks like the vote is leaning towards Jerusalem, so I'm gonna get started on setting that up. If anyone's got any ideas for events or decisions though, throw those here or PM me, I'll use whatever I can get. So far I've given the Almoravids something to deal with early on, cos gently caress them, and I've also got a couple ideas about heresies.
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Oct 22, 2019 18:28
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How wild and wacky are you aiming for?
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Oct 22, 2019 23:42
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Can we please have the opportunity to convert to Yazidism if we ever expand into those territories?
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Oct 23, 2019 00:20
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We’re going for a later start date, yeah? One of the historical kings of Jerusalem? Probably won’t be much opportunity for ai Jizrunid hijinks then
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Oct 23, 2019 00:28
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Give us a way to usurp the papacy from Rome. Jerusalem is a way holier city. (This is probably actually really hard but if you think it’s doable then it might be cool)
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Oct 23, 2019 03:55
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Akratic Method posted:Give us a way to usurp the papacy from Rome. Jerusalem is a way holier city. Probably doable by embracing a heresy that establishes our own papacy later down the line, so you never know QuoProQuid posted:How wild and wacky are you aiming for? Basically anything that has some semblance of sense, and I'll find ways to justify it
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Oct 23, 2019 07:28
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Snipee posted:Can we please have the opportunity to convert to Yazidism if we ever expand into those territories? One of those areas that depend entirely on the King at hand. It'll be entirely possible for a cynical king to convert to secret Yazidism, or any other religion in our domains, and try to start recruiting followers to his new faith. It'll probably lead to civil war, but sure. It'll also be possible to submit legislation to try and convert the Kingdom's faith, assuming its possible in-game, so there's that too.
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Oct 23, 2019 07:29
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Okay, the thread's up here. I'm going to post the rules and start accepting characters tonight, and the plan is to post the intro chapter tomorrow or the day after.
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