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redneck nazgul posted:It's not even the superdelegates, the left candidate, i.e, Bernie, is going to get turbofucked by any remaining candidates. In an optimistic world they're gulping loudly with images of guillotines running through their heads. In a reality based optimistic world they're maybe reading polls and seeing how the wind is blowing? Give me something to work with here please.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Jesus Christ dude, ruling out any non white non male by default because if a woman or minority is competitive, they must have given up values (but white men are trustworthy)? It's a pretty bad take, yeah. Also I'd love to see some links on "candidates can hand their delegates to other candidates," because the only thing I had heard about is that if someone drops out the delegates get reapportioned based on the proportion of the vote the remaining candidates got. This would still gently caress a leftist if one of the other ones dropped out later in the campaign. Not that I'm any kind of expert on any of that poo poo, just what I've absorbed in a few threads here and there.
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bird food bathtub posted:In an optimistic world they're gulping loudly with images of guillotines running through their heads. In a reality based optimistic world they're maybe reading polls and seeing how the wind is blowing? They're trying to split the left vote and consolidate everyone else under one candidate (but can't all agree which because there are (at least) Clinton and Obama factions within the Democratic Party apparatus). That's the positive take. The cynical one is that Warren is in on it.
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The Navy Awards (SECNAVINST 1650.1H) knower has logged on https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1156655361711071232?s=20 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1156655478740606977?s=20 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1156655542280118277?s=20
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Oh no not a lost NAM.... But seriously is it his place to be dealing with unit based citations. No of course not. The unit could just hand it out again for “reason #58475”. Crab Dad fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Jul 31, 2019 |
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Jul 31, 2019 21:06
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EBB posted:quote this if you laugh at gore's cock every time Like a loving charm, I can’t look at this photo and not see Gore’s painfully average sized cock. Gore also owns hard. Imagine what the world would be like had we had 8 years of Gore instead of Bush. Sure 9/11 is still gonna happen but Iraq isn’t. All those lives lost, American and Iraqi.. never would have happened with Gore. gently caress, I think most all of us have at least one person we cared about die because of the war in Iraq either in combat or from suicide. All those guys would still be here with us. I mean this: Bush was actually worse than trump by a wide rear end margin. Say what you’ll say about Trump, and there’s a lot to say, but boy howdy I’m glad he’s so stupid and incompetent. Imagine trumps ego and motivations and resources mixed with some actual loving intelligence, and suddenly Trump is yelling hold my beer to W as he goes to grab a Mexican immigrant woman by the pussy while tweeting about how Al Sharpton “hates the whites” (direct and recent quote from POTUS).
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Crakkerjakk posted:Yeah, having diversity in leadership is good, but having a woman PoC who is a blood gargling psychopath as leader is still bad. Diversity + good politics + ideally a history of executing stuff successfully is ideal. Yeah the law and order shot Harvey Milk. gently caress cops since forever. jello Biafra posted:Drinkin' beer in the hot sun
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Jul 31, 2019 21:12
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Crakkerjakk posted:It's a pretty bad take, yeah. I double-checked and as near as I can tell according to the current rules, Delegates are selected by the campaigns they pledge for but are not technically bound to vote for that campaign. So, if a candidate drops, they can direct their delegates to vote for someone else but that doesn't necessarily mean the delegates will. So I was probably misremembering older primary rules or something along those lines. Either way, the idea that Warren is some kind of centrist plant to split the left vote is hilarious and dumb. Oh no, some centrists started endorsing her? Can't be that she's hovering between second and third in the polls, is on an upwards trajectory, and the people writing these op-eds are spineless wimps who crave nothing more than status and jobs in the next Administration and are hedging their bets.
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She is to the right of Sanders (though still to the left of everyone else). I think there are lots of authentic Warren supporters (my wife is one of them), but the ones who work at pro-corporate think-tanks suddenly posting approvingly about her on Twitter and writing flattering op-eds after previously viewing her as a terrible threat to the Democratic Party are being disingenuous one way or another. Their entire job is to manufacture enthusiasm for pro-corporate policies, so either they think they can sabotage her if she wins, or they think she won't win, or they're trying to split the leftist vote so a centrist wins. That simple. And Warren is probably somewhat of a careerist. To quote a poster more willing to put in effort: joepinetree posted:The other thing that I don't think gets much play with regards to Warren is that by all indications she is a careerist. There's a bunch of things that people tend to focus on in isolation, and will generally get dismissed as a goof, but to me clearly indicates that her morals are very flexible when it comes to something that can advance her career. To list a few:
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maybe warren is an acceptable candidate for people who want a bunch of bernie's policies but are still salty about 2016 and would stay home if bernie won the nomination idk it's probably only 10% of her supporters who'd do that though
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FAUXTON posted:maybe warren is an acceptable candidate for people who want a bunch of bernie's policies but are still salty about 2016 Also for people versed in life expectancy tables.
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mlmp08 posted:Also for people versed in life expectancy tables. True, though she's no spring chicken herself. Imagine I purposely misconstrued your post as one about her only supporters being corporate actuaries and either got mad or smug depending on your primary preference.
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mlmp08 posted:Also for people versed in life expectancy tables. Yeah, I was watching the debate with my MIL who is a nurse and she was saying that really nobody above 55ish should be president based on experience with aging populations. This cuts out almost everyone currently running for president.
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FAUXTON posted:maybe warren is an acceptable candidate for people who want a bunch of bernie's policies but are still salty about 2016 and would stay home if bernie won the nomination Probably. I'm sure there's some folks that are convinced that if it weren't for him Hillary Would Have Won. And also some that view her as the same as Bernie, but younger and a woman (that's my wife). Like you said, hard to know how much is how much of her support. Doesn't really matter that much, IMO.
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It's still wild how much of a role Weiner ended up playing in US history all over some real dumb/bad poo poo.
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mlmp08 posted:It's still wild how much of a role Weiner ended up playing in US history all over some real dumb/bad poo poo. That goddamn dick pic bumbling through history like Forrest Gump
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FAUXTON posted:That goddamn dick pic bumbling through history like Forrest Gump Oh god this is going to be a movie isn't it.
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hobbesmaster posted:Oh god this is going to be a movie isn't it. Haw, mah name's Weiner, Weiner Penis. Y'all's can call me Wenis Momma always said life is like open DMs, you never know what you're gonna get
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I just feel that Bernie and Warren are the two candidates closest to my own politics overall. This country needs to start tilting left again (or for the first time if you're going to go all joyless D&D pedant on me) and they're the two candidates most likely to assist the process. The country needs universal health care, increased taxation on the obscenely rich, and restoration of government oversight on the private sector. I'm not as concerned about the details as I am getting these things done at all. Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Jul 31, 2019 |
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Jul 31, 2019 22:27
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I just feel that Bernie and Warren are the two candidates closest to my own politics overall. This country needs to start tilting left again (or for the first time if you're going to go alljoyless D&D pedant on me) and they're the two candidates most likely to assist the process.  I'm leaning Warren over Bernie but there's a long gap between them and the rest. My 2003 self was all about an-syn stuff but I get where the modern equivalent basically won't budge on Bernie because of the feeling that Bernie's a revolutionary whereas Warren is a reformer and for folks really into that kind of stuff you might as well be comparing Marx and Hitler.
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Yeah, I hate the whole "revolutionary versus reform" thing because it leads to prioritizing the ideal means over the actual desired ends which means nothing getting done.
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FAUXTON posted:Haw, mah name's Weiner, Weiner Penis. This made me laugh way too hard.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Yeah, I hate the whole "revolutionary versus reform" thing because it leads to prioritizing the ideal means over the actual desired ends which means nothing getting done. 28 years on Capitol Hill surely accomplishes something revolutionary
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Its hilarious that Bernie's perceived foreign policy deficits look like pure genius next to the current guy who is openly trying to pressure, via Twitter, a foreign government into letting some rich guy off the hook for assault. All because another rich rear end in a top hat asked him to, and he holds a racist belief that this will win over all "the blacks".
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Casimir Radon posted:Its hilarious that Bernie's perceived foreign policy deficits look like pure genius next to the current guy who is openly trying to pressure, via Twitter, a foreign government into letting some rich guy off the hook for assault. All because another rich rear end in a top hat asked him to, and he holds a racist belief that this will win over all "the blacks". Granted it isn't hard to just not be a buffoonish dick to the rest of the world, and it speaks to what's probably Bernie's best strength - being guided by what is morally right rather than what sounds acceptable.
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Bernie is the compromise candidate. Also, this fuckin shreds. Dilbert 3 and Top Gun had a musical baby. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srj_68Dk5hg
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The NAMs went to the prosecuters who had to parachute in to a high profile case right before trial because the lead got booted for being an unethical shitheel.
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It's so good because the obvious conclusion is they were a reward for tanking the case. Then that was taken away.
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Everybody who works for/with Donnie gets hosed over. Most times by him directly. How are there people who don't get this yet? There's literal decades of contractors he's completely dicked over for a buck, this poo poo isn't news. Edit: Obviously armed forces personnel don't have a lot of choice but it keeps happening everywhere.
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LongDarkNight posted:It's so good because the obvious conclusion is they were a reward for tanking the case. Then that was taken away. I doubt it, if it's like the Army then the NAM was probably the equivalent of a end of tour or PCS award. I've got like six of the things (well, AAM) and only two of them were for doing anything. They don't mean poo poo. edit: Actually I was mixed up, I have ARCOMs, AAMs mean even less. Jarmak fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Jul 31, 2019 |
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Casimir Radon posted:Its hilarious that Bernie's perceived foreign policy deficits look like pure genius next to the current guy who is openly trying to pressure, via Twitter, a foreign government into letting some rich guy off the hook for assault. All because another rich rear end in a top hat asked him to, and he holds a racist belief that this will win over all "the blacks". our foreign post ww2(and likely before) has been an unmitigated disaster but people are seriously pearl clutching over it because we might not just keep on keepin' on
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Momentary sidebar: the Bellingcat Podcast, narrated by our very own Brown Moses, just released its third episode about the downing of MH17. It’s really well produced and nicely done- I’ve been following his/their work for years, and it’s nice to see this put down as a narrative piece. https://www.bellingcat.com/category/resources/podcasts/
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Oxygenpoisoning posted:I don’t think the Navy is as bad at the Army about inflated medal counts, I tend to agree since it’s a JAG Officer we are talking about. What??? A NAM for the navy is something they give dozens of out at every all hands call. Like I've seen E-5s with 8 or more of them.
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Nostalgia4Ass posted:What??? A NAM for the navy is something they give dozens of out at every all hands call. Like I've seen E-5s with 8 or more of them. I stand corrected. Maybe I’m misremembered, is USMC stricter?
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When I was in (99-03) NAMs in the USMC were a bit more difficult to get than AAMs (because those were given out like candy), but still not hard.
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