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How about some good shoots? (Note: the term "good shoot" doesn't mean that it's good that the person got shot/died, it means that it was justified) https://youtu.be/b0iEfmdirMs https://youtu.be/UokZZSwNy_8 https://youtu.be/2lqJ0TllapM https://youtu.be/uwXMiAZ18MA https://youtu.be/2c8fC0dZteQ https://youtu.be/oJ0Cj83YWiA https://youtu.be/Hw5XeHRG864 https://youtu.be/IzociekIWRA https://youtu.be/r4tfM7yqCfU https://youtu.be/ALmK1qvm77E https://youtu.be/pGtrSpVKmyE https://youtu.be/ip_hPxvpRRc https://youtu.be/VWt4EK2MYLM https://youtu.be/c0ISiiXunu0
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2019 21:58 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 01:47 |
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It's very easy for both sides to get emotional. It's real easy to get basically radicalized into that us vs them, they're all bad mindset, whichever side you're on. The only thing we can do as human beings is admit when we make mistakes, and it takes a bigger man to apologize, especially apologizing first. Thank you, Prof. Bling. If I went too far in the CE thread I apologize as well.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2019 01:20 |
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More like Mall Ninja security dweeb needs to puff his chest out.
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2019 18:55 |
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This entire loving thing is stupid. Dousing the officers is stupid as gently caress. Anyone that does it can get charged for at least disorderly conduct. At the least. If they resist, add on that charge. If they strike the officer while resisting, add another. However, all the assholes saying that those guys should've went after whoever did it are stupid, too. It's a losing battle. Two guys surrounded by an entire neighborhood. They go to take one into custody, he might start to fight. His friends might join in. You are forced to use force and it escalates. Now you're outnumbered 10-1 and your only option is to go lethal. Yea you could use spray but that will only get you so far. And it's loving water, not rocks. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't thing. You'll get criticized from both sides no matter what you do. Better to err on the side of restraint than to get into a huge brawl or possible OIS over some water when there's just the two of you.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2019 15:57 |
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Many departments are so short they're making exceptions for 4 year degrees and even if you've smoked weed in the past. A lot of departments are so shorthanded their guys are doing mandatory overtime 1-3 times a week just to cover the bare minimum of bodies. If all departments got rid of the "never smoked weed" or "haven't smoked weed in 3 years/1 year" requirement, there would be a lot more bodies to fill those spots.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2019 13:19 |
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rear end in a top hat on parole for homicide decides to hurt a woman, 911 caller (victim) states that he has two guns and was hitting her. PD arrives, he fails to comply and instead runs, grabs his pistol, turns around and fires at officers, who return fire and wound him. https://youtu.be/eCuH0f9AX6Q OH GOD SO UNJUSTIFIED Oh here's another POLICE OVERREACH RAAAWRRRGH Traffic stop for overly tinted windows, passenger bails and runs away, throws the gun on top of a metal container which probably sounds like a gun shot to the officer, the gun falls off the container, bad guy reaches for it, and officer shoots him, wounding him in the leg, guy throws gun over a high fence. Guy fails to comply and lay down so he can be secured, possibly has other weapons on him as far as the officers know, so he's tazed and taken into custody, then gets medical help https://youtu.be/acBIsoe0TjU Oh man what injustice.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2019 14:47 |
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Must be awesome to have psychic powers.
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2019 13:20 |
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Professor Bling posted:If only there had been One Good Cop™ involved at any point over this long period of time to do something about all the bad cops that did this and then covered it up What's the point of you posting in this thread at all if you're 100% correct, the world is black and white, with no nuances or gray areas whatsoever?
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2019 20:24 |
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The mental health system in this country is completely overwhelmed, and systemically underfunded. Blaming the police is a really easy thing to do, but it's a society-wide problem. No politician wants to raise taxes to improve living conditions in prisons, or to expand or build inpatient psych facilities, but that's exactly what we need. We've got so many people in jail that should be in inpatient psych centers. It's loving pathetic. We're spending $40k a year putting them in jail, and they'll only be worse once they get out, when if we spent a little bit more per year, they'd get the help they need and maybe, just maybe, be able to be independent and productive members of society if and when they get out. There are backlogs and waiting lists for even outpatient treatment. There aren't enough publicly run inpatient psych facilities at all. poo poo was different before Reagan closed so many state run psych hospitals. So many people who aren't going to ever be able to take care of themselves are pushed out into the outpatient system and many of them fall through the cracks and either end up in jail, dead, or end up in a constantly revolving door of being kicked out of different outpatient facilities for breaking the rules there, but because they're semi self sufficient they can be kicked out of the inpatient facilities to free up beds. There's always going to be people that are simply too mentally ill to ever live on their own outside of inpatient psychiatric hospitals. It's a loving shame but it's the truth. I don't know what it's like in other states but in certain counties in NY there are county-wide mobile mental health crisis teams on call at all times for mentally ill people in distress. If someone is expressing suicidal thoughts or actions, and/or threatens to, or wants to, or is going to harm other people, police can take them for a 72 psychiatric evaluation at any hospital that has a psych section. Eval is made and they're either released to family, or sent to an inpatient psych hospital, or sent back to their outpatient residential facility. The bottom line is that police need better training in dealing with the mentally ill or people in crisis, but that's not going to solve the issue alone. What we need is comprehensive mental healthcare coverage, an expansion of inpatient psychiatric hospitals, and an expansion to outpatient help as well. The problem is that that will cost a gently caress ton of money. Additionally, even if police were to get better training for dealing with the mentally ill, there's still going to be police shootings of the mentally ill. That will never stop. Ever. Why? Because people who feel they are at their rock bottom, and whose brains are literally telling them that they deseve / should be dead, whether they are mentally ill or not, are going to know that if they charge a cop with a knife, or grab a gun out of their waistband etc that the police are going to shoot them. It's suicide by cop and even if all police were to get world class training in dealing with those in mental health crises, it'll never be completely eliminated, because people know the cops are going to protect themselves. The best we can do is try to minimize those incidents, which we should absolutely try to do. But better training is not the panacea that some may think it will be.
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2019 21:01 |
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mlmp08 posted:It does really seem like the training to not sit on a dude's back until he loses consciousness and dies should be pretty cheap. That's at least a tiny start. New York had a system wide retraining of all police agencies regarding positional asphyxiation. When someone is on their stomach, it is harder for them to breathe, especially if that surface is hard, like concrete or pavement. It's an especially dangerous position for overweight people, as their body must work harder to fill their lungs with oxygen. We're now trained to put our knees across the person's wasit/belt area, not the back, when cuffing noncompliant subjects. We're also now trained to put them on their sides / a rescue positon as soon as possible. Hopefully more states adopt these new training standards, because positional asphyxiation is really loving dangerous and easily preventable.
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2019 22:23 |
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Professor Bling posted:Ah yes, the department famous for making "I can breathe" shirts is doing this retraining in good faith and is absolutely going to follow it New York is also a state, you know. If I meant the NYPD exclusively, I would have said so. But yeah, his death prompted the retraining. Because he shouldn't have died. If the officers had been trained properly and given the basic information of positional asphyxiation and its risk factors, especially for overweight people, that man wouldnt have died.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2019 00:52 |
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Here's a textbook takedown, cuffing, and getting the guy up. Passenger officer only has his knee on the guy's back because no one else is there to help him secure the left arm, and he only keeps his knee there for a few seconds, just enough to get him in cuffs. Then he got him up. Though that guy wasn't really resisting anymore, it's a good example of what should be done. https://youtu.be/BfOVLADHe7s
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2019 18:33 |
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Melthir posted:Your cherry picking here dude. I covered that just a bit later. You are responsible only as far as sending it up the chain to you supervisor, the IG or IA. Unless they are your subordinate you are literally not responsible for them. I'm not responsible if some loving rear end clown decides to go hands on with someone over failure to show identification. I know 100% our supervisor would gently caress his world up. The only people I have to worry about are me and my guys. And funny thing is that they all have a similar mindset as I do. Do the job don't harass people. Dont go hands on if their is another option. Talking is key. All these ACAB people don't seem to realize that for a majority if cops, if we can avoid massive amounts of paperwork, or having to go to court, or deal with processing an arrest, we'll do it because it makes our lives and jobs easier. At least in my department, if we can just deescalate a situation, we'll do it. No one wants the potential of an on the job injury or having to to before a grand jury or deal with IA, so if we don't have to wrestle or roll around with a guy or use any kind of force, and we can just talk to him or her like a human being, we'll try that. We always start off at a 1 on the "'Being Nice and Just Talking' to 'Go Time'(10)" scale unless the person is already violent. Saves aggravation, sweat, blood, and paperwork, and maybe the guy won't think all cops are assholes after the interaction. Bored As Fuck fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Aug 1, 2019 |
# ¿ Aug 1, 2019 18:44 |
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Everybody likes Sovereign Citizen videos, right? https://youtu.be/2zuDe-4aH-s
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2019 19:13 |
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bird cooch posted:like the stoneman Douglas one that pissed himself in the parking lot instead of doing his loving job? That piece of poo poo was widely ridiculed and condemned by literally every single cop I know, and on every single cop forum or message board I read. He's a loving coward who should eat his own gun, and didn't deserve to have a badge.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2019 04:07 |
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:He lived, that's punishment enough. Wait I thought ACAB always and forever. Sooooo... you don't want them all dead? The guy literally had a chance to save the lives of the kids he was supposed to protect. It had been 19 years since Columbine, 19 years since all training doctrine had changed. 19 years for him to be trained in the new active shooter response doctrine - go towards the gunfire and stop the threat. His reckless and cowardly actions almost assuredly let more people die than would have had he intervened. I suppose living with knowing that fact for the rest of his days would be an apt punishment. You're right. I was too flippant about suicide. Bored As Fuck fucked around with this message at 12:09 on Aug 5, 2019 |
# ¿ Aug 5, 2019 11:05 |
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EBB posted:i am a podcast fiend I'm a fiend for mojitos.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2019 19:36 |
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Chichevache posted:I always wondered how bike and mounted police brought their arrestees in. My mental image was a lot funnier and didn't look nearly as racist. For bike cops and ATV cops around where I used to live, they wait for cars or paddy wagons to come. Especially beach cops.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2019 01:20 |
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Godholio posted:The article says there were no transport units available, so they were bringing the guy to their staging area two blocks away. Probably a combination of having no self awareness at all, no concern for the way poo poo will look, no training ingrained into them that they're always being recorded, the fact that they probably were "well poo poo we can't leave our horses here, I dont want to walk 2 blocks alongside my horse," throw in a dash of subconscious racism, and probably even conscious racism, and you get that horrid PR nightmare.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2019 02:09 |
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A Bad Poster posted:Honestly, I'm a little surprised they didn't hogtie him and throw him on the back of one of the horses. We call this the Red Dead Redemption around here.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2019 02:10 |
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mlmp08 posted:The result isn’t a “PR nightmare.” The result is dehumanizing, racist behavior toward a person. It's the former, because of the latter, and the (well deserved) subsequent public outcry. Not that complicated.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2019 03:03 |
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SpaceSDoorGunner posted:Sorry for my tone, I was pretty irritated and I’m still sleep deprived from moving to night shift. I’ll probably take a break for a bit until I’m in a better frame of mind to talk about this. Hey man, good luck on night shift. Reign and Bang energy drinks may be your friend. Monster Rehab Tea + Lemonade is great, too. Buy in bulk on Amazon to save money. Better yet, buy coffee at Costco and save that way. Try to get into a decent rhythm of sleep. Make sure to exercise 3-4 times a week, even if its just biking or walking or running. Night shift makes you more likely to be depressed, gain weight, makes you more irritable, and all kinds of bad poo poo. I just got off night shift and it's gonna take me a long while to readjust to a normal human schedule.
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2019 17:18 |
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Whenever I see anyone post "abolish the police" it boggles my mind. Even "abolish the current criminal justice system and build a new one" is a pipe dream, although that is slightly less insane than just having no police force. I'm not sure how society would function under such a system - vigilante justice and public lynchings? How do you deal with, investigate, and prosecute kidnappings, murder, child abuse, child sex abuse, or other serious crimes? How do you deal with situations like the following? SWAT Fatally shoots kidnapper after he tries to make a run for it after a 2 hour standoff where negotiations failed? https://youtu.be/fxYPp-OOJuQ Cincinnati PD engage and kill an active shooter https://youtu.be/UokZZSwNy_8 Cops engage active shooter https://youtu.be/pGtrSpVKmyE How would we deal with active shooter situations in a society without police? That's a serious question. Concealed pistol permit holders aren't everywhere at every time, and aren't trained to run towards the gunfire. How about other kinds of terrorist attacks? Bored As Fuck fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Aug 10, 2019 |
# ¿ Aug 10, 2019 05:03 |
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Good. gently caress that guy. DA needs to clean house in Houston Narcotics.
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2019 20:44 |
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Good. Lock that fuckup up.
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2019 16:54 |
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Kid should've gotten 5-15, Guyger should've gotten 25-55.
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2019 17:11 |
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Liquid Communism posted:You know, I hate to be paranoid, but 'dude who just stood to witness on a dirty cop getting put away is assassinated via drive-by, no leads found' is some pretty scarily circumstantial poo poo, and needs to be investigated well above the Dallas PD's level. Even as a LEO, this seems way too loving convenient for Guyger (maybe a try for an appeal without a KEY witness?), and the circumstances are suspicious as gently caress. Until we see some real evidence that this witness was involved in gangs or the drug trade, or was loving his buddy's or boss's wife, and we get some concrete poo poo here of a perp, I'm betting some CHUD gently caress (who either is or isn't a cop) did this.
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2019 12:07 |
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Interesting. That's good that an appeal is unlikely. Thanks for the explanation.
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2019 13:30 |
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Melthir posted:Honestly make cops meet the FLETC standards. If they fail to be able to talk to people have a nice day. If they dont understand that the contact officer stays the contact officer have a nice day. You want fed funding meet fed standards otherwise get hosed. This is one of the first realistic posts in a while in this thread.
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2019 13:26 |
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That officer hosed up big time, should at the very least be charged with negligent homicide.
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2019 20:15 |
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What do you expect from Shaun King, the guy who jumps to conclusions more than that guy from Office Space. He's hit or miss. He's got basically no knowledge of policing, use of force, the law, etc.
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2019 04:30 |
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That's laughably stupid just as it is any time any CHUD says "Democrats are the REAL racists."
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2019 17:32 |
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/chief-officers-proud-boys-membership-break-policy-66296876 Maybe he should change department policy to make membership in a hate group a fireable offense! Doesn't seem too difficult to do, there, Chief!
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2019 21:16 |
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Wasabi the J posted:He'd have to be the chief of police to do something like that! Lmao He'd have to have a backbone, or possibly even be not racist himself! Is that too loving much to ask for?
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2019 22:01 |
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:
"Thank God veterans are doing something about the massive costs of the VA." That's essentially what you said, just applied to vets rather than cops. Maybe that one hits close enough to home to realize what you said. In this subforum that supposedly promotes seeking out mental health and has people who work to try to reduce suicides. gently caress off. Bored As Fuck fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Oct 19, 2019 |
# ¿ Oct 19, 2019 03:48 |
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Years late. Those poor kids are traumatized for life now. loving disgusting.
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2019 18:17 |
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K9 bites dumb Sovereign Citizen. https://youtu.be/Mn_CjjK-shI
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2019 03:24 |
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Sovereign Citizen, who doesn't believe any laws apply to him, prays to Donald Trump to save him. https://youtu.be/83xLdY3-oEA
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2019 03:44 |
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Almost all of cop tiktoks are cringe inducing moto boot horseshit. But that was kind of funny.
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2019 21:18 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 01:47 |
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I see enough cringeworthy poo poo
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2019 21:49 |