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I mean it's ham-handed as all get out but I will give Mookie this: He managed to make his trans representation better than any other form of representation he's ever put in his comics before. So, because it's trans day of visibility I am not going to go after this page as anything but 'pretty cliched.' I'd feel out of my lane to critique what seems pretty unremarkable to me. ok I will also say the scansion of Uncle Doofus' rhyme is completely awful
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Mookie I despise capitalism with every inch of my self, but I promise you your fantasy world does not have the verisimilitude to survive the scrutiny of how this character can economically afford to do this all day and go well out of her way to do it and still manages to survive in a world where hunger and thirst are extant rules.
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Apr 1, 2024 05:33
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Joe Slowboat posted:I mean it's ham-handed as all get out but I will give Mookie this: He managed to make his trans representation better than any other form of representation he's ever put in his comics before. He could maybe not have deadnamed the trans extra on the day of trans visibility. Other than that, yeah, pretty anodyne. Why does this update exist beyond that, though? It does not give us any new information. Main spirit shepherd is good because she does not charge mint and subsists on the dew from a single ginkgo leaf and the energy from the universe. Short haired spirit shepherd is bad because they need money for goods and services. Are the spirit shepherds specifically supposed to be a mendicant order who must rely on the kindness of strangers? Do they take a vow of poverty? Why? If either of these are supposed to be taken as given, we the audience must know about them somehow. Mx. posted:wanting to survive in a capitalist society is intrinsically evil The criticism of short haired shepherd (coming from inside the comic) is really just "you participate in society. Curious!" isn't it.
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Apr 1, 2024 05:47
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Eh. I think it's time for an extended thread break for me, the previous and this current comic isn't bad or weird enough to really dive into. It just feels like searching for things to pick on at this point.
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Apr 1, 2024 06:15
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Fair enough. At this pace, we should be on a new short pretty soon, so hopefully there's more to engage with there.
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Apr 1, 2024 06:18
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Oh, I guess she figured out where to go next, somehow, completely off panel. Phew, almost had a challenge there.
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Apr 1, 2024 06:22
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Apr 1, 2024 06:26
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Honestly, helping spirits move on really isn't a service you should charge an individual for, because you're kind of holding their departed loved ones hostage. All though a world where only the wealthy get to move on while the poor are stuck wandering could make for an interesting story. No, spirit shepherding should be a tax funded public service, complete with city council members reducing the spirit shepherd budget in order to pay for a new slaughter ball stadium. 
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Apr 1, 2024 06:34
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It's not as awful as I would have feared it to be.
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Apr 1, 2024 07:51
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Pulsarcat posted:Honestly, helping spirits move on really isn't a service you should charge an individual for, because you're kind of holding their departed loved ones hostage. Reminds me of 
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I just had this thought - the first trans character in deegan was the alterist. who talks about alterism helping her transition ["I used to be a man"]. but because of what dominic did, magic "works different" now. So that's bad news for every trans person, right? Like, there probably isn't a non-magic route towards gender affirmation in place?
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From szark's treatment at large we've seen that anti lgbtq prejudice exists in the world of dominic deegan, so it's fair to assume that pre-change of magic gender clinics were - as they are in our own imperfect world - few and far between. From this I think we can reason that now every trans person has to go to erossus, which i think we can assume was the home of all non-magical research on gender and sexuality
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magic is gentle now so if you ask it for gender-affirming magic it'll say yes but if you ask it for cosmetic surgery a piece of your soul will be ripped out
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yeah actually they will posted:I just had this thought - the first trans character in deegan was the alterist. who talks about alterism helping her transition ["I used to be a man"]. but because of what dominic did, magic "works different" now. So that's bad news for every trans person, right? Like, there probably isn't a non-magic route towards gender affirmation in place? Well the current page is still set 200 years in the future and it explicitly includes a trans man who seems to have happily transitioned so one way or another things seem to have worked out in that regard. Mookie seems clearly disinterested in critiquing his protagonists, so even though we opened this chapter deals with souls that get literally trapped in limbo, possibly for centuries, as a result of Dominic and his students' actions, it will never get portrayed as a morally ambiguous thing. Likewise I don't think we are ever going to get a view into what it must have been like 200 years ago when it happened - in the example of trans people, those who had alterist appointments that had to be cancelled because magic became fucky suddenly and had to experience the anxiety of their life prospects becoming uncertain. It is simply the kind of story that mookie isn't interested in telling.
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Honestly I mostly want to know if we are going to learn how spirit shepherds that aren’t con artists get the funding to buy food and shelter.
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Apr 1, 2024 15:16
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Even just a little line of her going, "The only payment we take is some food and maybe letting me sleep on your couch".
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Mors Rattus posted:Honestly I mostly want to know if we are going to learn how spirit shepherds that aren’t con artists get the funding to buy food and shelter. It's not even clear how institutionalized they are! How often does a town get one? If you have a ghost, can you call one up or do you just wait for one to wander by? How are they trained? Does Jacob find and teach them individually? Are there other veterans who take apprentices? Or has an academy been formed in the last 200 years of new-cromantic development? Who is enforcing this pro bono code? Is this guy going to lose his shepherding license? What does any of this mean? Normally these would all be nitpicky questions you'd only get by ignoring the thematic point of the story but at this point the theme is "what is a psychopomp" and the only answer furnished is "they're nice."
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I mean it is a common thread that the main characters of his works never have to worry about material conditions or ever have to compromise to survive.
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Apr 1, 2024 18:39
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It's about Mookie having to watch Garth Graham make money hand over fist with his porn comics while selling nothing himself.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Eh. I think it's time for an extended thread break for me, the previous and this current comic isn't bad or weird enough to really dive into. It just feels like searching for things to pick on at this point. I think the smaller story so far better serves Mookie’s ability. It’s not good, but instead of being Manos Hands of Fate bad, it’s becoming Full Moon Features bad. It’s a step up!
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Apr 1, 2024 20:03
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Pervert era Full Moon or stoner era?
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Wait, dead uncle needed his nephew to say his name before he could pass to the other side? Uncle deady had to see his nephew transitioned before he could pass to the other side? Doesn’t take much to get trapped in between worlds does it?
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DamnitGannet posted:Wait, dead uncle needed his nephew to say his name before he could pass to the other side? Uncle deady had to see his nephew transitioned before he could pass to the other side? Doesn’t take much to get trapped in between worlds does it? Yeah, like I said about the walk, if something so trivial counts as unfinished business then the whole world must be horribly haunted.
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Ague Proof posted:It's about Mookie having to watch Garth Graham make money hand over fist with his porn comics while selling nothing himself. I... was also thinking this. Because some old school webcomic artists did used to get a bit thing about whether you posted your comics for free online or had a pay system
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Pulsarcat posted:Honestly, helping spirits move on really isn't a service you should charge an individual for, because you're kind of holding their departed loved ones hostage. It would be pretty easy to set up a social or cultural institution that supports spirit shepards in lieu of them accepting payment. They might have an order that supports their mission. They might have a reciprocal relationship with a specific local community they serve, like witches in Discworld. Idk there's tons of options you can use to develop a world where it's reasonable that this extremely personal spiritual service is done without charging individuals, and it's taboo to do it for personal profit. It's just nothing has been set up and there's no reason to think any will be.
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DamnitGannet posted:Wait, dead uncle needed his nephew to say his name before he could pass to the other side? Uncle deady had to see his nephew transitioned before he could pass to the other side? Doesn’t take much to get trapped in between worlds does it? Uncle wanted to see how his nephew was doing (he had wanted to be present at their wedding, but died when they were still a kid) and have one last pseudo-conversation. I'd imagine that desperately wanting to see your relatives one last time can be a big force binding a ghost. Acknowledging that Uncle's spirit was actually there and happy for him was the last little push. Outside of the whole-pig-handed handling of the nephew being trans, it is much better than that other dumbass being stuck in a cave for 200 years because nobody wanted to go on a walk with him because he was an rear end in a top hat who belittled their hobbies.
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This is turning into the Trivial Psychic skit from SNL.
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Maxwell Lord posted:This is turning into the Trivial Psychic skit from SNL. Kind of hope it goes this way, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vjxen7weKU
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Maxwell Lord posted:This is turning into the Trivial Psychic skit from SNL. Good skit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-xz0z1gU1M
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This is the most astute character in the history of Dominic Deegan.
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Honestly, I like this one and I like this con artist.
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You can tell he's evil because he demonstrates any skill whatsoever and uses it to achieve his goals rather than standing around helplessly until the plot solves itself.
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Robot Style posted:You can tell he's evil because he demonstrates any skill whatsoever and uses it to achieve his goals rather than standing around helplessly until the plot solves itself. Lol I was gonna say, somebody actually using effort and talent to survive? Gotta be a villain!
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This... sorta works? It shows us he's observant, good at reading people, and quick-thinking, qualities all con artists and fake psychics possess. Of course, the writing is terrible and instead of close-ups on the pictures and real rocks, we get faceless nobodies (one mostly cut off by a thought box) and gray lumps.
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"Her entire living room is filled with a rock collection. This might mean that she likes collecting rocks. I'm Sherlock Holmes!"
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That's about the level IRL "psychics" operate on tbf. Unless they're on TV, then the show's producers just feed them all the info they could dig up on the mark.
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He's already way more interesting than whats her face.
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The art and designs aren't good, but in a vacuum this strip is fine? Don't actually mind this. You're not doing anything great, Mookie, but this is past the first hurdle and into the realm of "I can't make fun of this meaningfully." Honestly hope against hope Mookie manages to stick the landing and start improving but like, not a great track record so far. But like, I'm not a hypocrite, I would genuinely love for Mookie to get good enough to where hate-reading stops being satisfying.
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