Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


cohsae posted:

Just thinking about the time that Saudi government twitter account threatened to do a 9/11 to Canada

Extremely funny

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Riot Bimbo posted:

The nazis won ww2 and the us is, in fact, the great satan

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


I’m shocked that Sweden, the country with the longest running eugenics programme in the 20th century, is writing off all of its elderly as palliative as soon as they get covid

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die



:eyepop:

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


my bony fealty posted:

listening to the fascism ep and this is excellent, im in love already. gonna subscribe for sure and maybe finally get around to reading Pynchon

I bought Gravity's Rainbow with the intention of being a big smart person who had read Gravity's Rainbow

Instead it has sat on my bookshelf intimidating me for years

I will never escape its baleful gaze

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


I just started reading Chaos and lmao at Vince Bugliosi being such an insufferable rear end in a top hat that even his wife can't stand his poo poo

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Marzzle posted:

conspiracy theories alienate people from the left and impede the progress of global socialism. acknowledging one "conspiracy theory" as plausible means your brain turns to mush and you will inevitably believe anything to impress your conspiracy buddies (which sounds a lot like actual thing that happens with breadtube dogma and the communities that form around it)

This is extremely funny coming from the people who refuse to read theory because telling someone to read a book is ableist

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


gradenko_2000 posted:

I tried to watch this and gave up 20 minutes in because her first example of a conspiracy theory is the JFK assassination and her pivot into "conspiracism on the left" begins with George Galloway meeting with Saddam Hussein

lmao

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

lmao


i've never heard this one before now :psyduck:

It does the rounds on twitter quite regularly whenever someone says something obviously dumb and wrong about marixism and the response is "maybe actually try reading it"

People get very upset when you tell them that

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


my bony fealty posted:

that peaked with some dipshit computer toucher anarchist who made SD card earings full of Bakunin writings or something, that they said they did not read, and then bragged "tell me to read theory again :smug:"

Oh poo poo I forgot about that

Pure comedy gold

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


So far on my adventures through Chaos I’ve learnt that everyone in Hollywood is a lying nightmare person, DAs are self aggrandising sociopaths, and the CIA and the Mafia are the same thing.

Fun!

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Riot Bimbo posted:

of all the poo poo I read, of all the poo poo i post, going from CHAOS to CIA As Organized Crime actually made me leave my job several hours early to go home and cry and have to ground myself and get my poo poo together

I didn't resume it for months

I’m sorry to hear that, friend.

It’s not affecting me quite so much thus far, maybe because I’m already a black-pilled, internet poisoned weirdo, or worse… an Australian.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


It's very telling that as soon as they were given the go-ahead to assassinate Castro they went straight to their mob buddies and started cooking up a series of schemes straight out of the prohibition era

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Currently watching Oliver Stone’s JFK movie and drat it’s way more adventurous than I ever would have thought a Hollywood movie would be about the assassination.

Film just straight up implicated Lyndon B Johnson lmao

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die



:thunk:

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Yeah it's a much funnier movie when you realise that Frank's biggest crime in the eyes of the establishment was undercutting the CIA by buying straight from their sources, bypassing them and taking their profits.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


The whole covid being made in a lab story is just a scapegoat for the real failure of governments worldwide: that we had evidence of these kinds of viruses becoming more dangerous over the course of decades to the point where an outbreak on this scale was almost inevitable, but our institutions did literally nothing about it, either because they disbelieved or didn't take the evidence seriously or, and I find this the more compelling reason, that they thought the cost would lay mainly on the poor who could use a little trimming down.

e: lovely snype

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


cohsae posted:

The real covid conspiracy is why the WHO took until the end of 2021 to admit that covid is airborne.

Yeah, for real. Just about every epidemiologist was saying "oh hey it's airborne" but that information was immediately squashed by just about every national government and the WHO until very recently.

I guess because we had to pretend that washing our hands and socially distancing was doing something to "avoid panic".

That said, those measures did drastically reduce transmission of the flu, which was nice. Normally tens of thousands of people die from that every year, but we don't give a poo poo.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


I don’t know apples from bananas when it comes to virology, so I don’t even know how to grapple with the idea that the virus was engineered. On an emotional level I know I don’t want to believe that.

On an unrelated note, I’m on the last chapter of Chaos and holy moly. I’m starting to get the feeling these CIA fellas aren’t all that upstanding!

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


It’s very funny that JSOC will rid the world of its own tyranny by having all its members die in drug hits or ODs

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Why doesn't the FBI simply charge the damages of the shooting to the card?

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Real hurthling! posted:

cause its their line of credit already that bought all the guns

If the FBI issued the card... and the FBI charges the card... then THE FBI HAS AN UNLIMITED MONEY MACHINE :gonk:

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Fly Molo posted:

it’s called heroin, op

I hope the CIA doesn't read this or there'll be an inter-agency turf war over who gets to sell all the drugs

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


fr0id posted:

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation With FBI and CIA governmental agencies

Bad news, every country has the CIA now :whitewater:

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


bonelessdongs posted:

China
C h i n a
C h I n A
C I A
CIA

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


The husband looks like he’s been hit around the head with a bat and should have stars and tiny birds flying around

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Ah poo poo, looks like I’ve inadvertently made fun of a disabled person.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Fly Molo posted:

turn on you’re monitor

:vince:

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Goon project: give Jesus a gun

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


mdemone posted:

lol I just started the "Big Event" chapter in Devil's Chessboard

crying and throwing up over here

I ordered that book, can't wait for this experience

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


mdemone posted:

don't jump to the good part. read it all, from the beginning.

and then you will understand.

How dare you sir I would never simply skip to the good bits

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:

smdh at this blatant is George W Bush erasure.

technically his Saudi friends weren't domestic :goonsay:

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


The 90s were a strange time for the FBI where everything they touched turned into an unmitigated disaster involving the deaths of innocent people, so gently caress it, maybe it was an op

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die



Of course it was Jolly West again, that mother fucker

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Riot Bimbo posted:

i wonder about what mk ultra became, and how effective it is. Like, I've seen stuff that indicates one can probably destroy an extant ego and replace it with a custom one, at some cost of time and resources, if the right subject is found. Been over that before.

But I don't *know* and it drives me crazy. Can they unseat just the ego? Can they do some freaky metaphysical poo poo? Like I know this thread isn't the place for that but like, my mind goes there.

Between the destroyed files on MK Ultra and the obvious fact the program wasn't the failure claimed, I really wish I could see the fruit of that labor

I think LSD is the key component to this stuff. It's a drug that makes you hyper-suggestible to the point of hallucinations. When you're in that state, you'll believe just about anything told to you in a certain manner. The way Manson used it was to have his followers take regular trips where he could build up a picture of reality through suggestion over multiple sessions to the point where it "stuck". Over a long enough period of time doing this, you can essentially "reprogram" a person to believe whatever you want them to believe.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Speaking of crazy poo poo related to MKULTRA, what's the thread opinion on David McGowan's Programmed to Kill?

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


mdemone posted:

While McVeigh sits in jail, before he is even named as a suspect in the bombing, his friend Roger Moore (not that one) from the right-wing gunshow circuit tries to have him bailed out, contacting at least two bail/bond companies.

crack

mdemone posted:

At about the same time, Dr. Louis Jolyon "Jolly" West appears on CNN's Larry King Live, to discuss the 'lone nut' who had bombed the Murrah building.

PING

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Riot Bimbo posted:

I cant even remember specifics but years ago i saw a documentary that basically talked about intelligence agencies being a bunch of highly compartmentalized cells that only vaguely and theoretically worked at a common cause and they would often get in the way of each other in the service of whatever end they were personally carrying out lol and very few people ever had anything close to a full picture of what was happening

Basically controlled chaos

That's how I feel the CIA works. Just a bunch of individuals and small groups given carte blanche to do whatever crazy poo poo as long as they can justify it as somehow being in line with US strategic interests. This is how you end up with the CIA directors after Dulles not knowing what MK-ULTRA actually involved until it was leaked.

Jolly West is also a good example of this, he was just given a line of CIA credit and told to go nuts, as long as he got results and didn't cause too much blowback.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


I think the small scale MK-ULTRA stuff (turning otherwise normal people into killers) was reasonably successful, but that was precisely Jolly Wests area. He also achieved success in inducing psychosis in otherwise mentally healthy individuals.

The problem is that it's a time and resource intensive process to brainwash a killer when you can just use an agent and blame it on someone else.

Inducing psychosis seems to be a much quicker affair though, and very useful in witness tampering. See: Jolly West's visit with Jack Ruby.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


The Man who was Thursday is a great little novella about an undercover policeman who joins an anarchist organisation only to find out that almost every other member of the organisation is also an undercover policeman.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply