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I came for the laser baby and stayed for the Homelander.
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Jul 28, 2019 03:34
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Binary Logic posted:I like that The Deep is a completely shallow character. His attempt to write his memoir and realizing he had nowhere to even start with was my favorite moment.
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Jul 29, 2019 00:09
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Groovelord Neato posted:
His line "there're no comebacks at my age" supports it just being an aging athlete thing. He's just not as young as he was anymore and someone in their physical prime could beat him. He's taking Compound V so that he can beat Shockwave in a race and recover from injuries, his trainer points out its having bad long-term effects on his health, but he keeps at it because the Seven don't want the 2nd fastest guy in the world. As for the G-Men, it's probably going to be massively reworked. Everything about them was over-the-top in a way the show is trying to avoid or tone down, and it wasn't even a particularly good critique of the X-Men themselves. Morrow fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Jul 29, 2019 |
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Jul 29, 2019 17:46
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Panfilo posted:I'm almost expecting Deep to end up as some kind of ecoterrorist given that he genuinely seems to care about Dolphins and other marine life. He's probably going to drift into some sort of domestic terrorist angle. In the comic there's a one-panel gag where Vought has him wear a KKK-styled costume and his last scene of the series has him shaving his head after hitting rock bottom.
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Jul 29, 2019 18:07
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Davros1 posted:Unless they keep the thing from the comic where Black Noir is a clone of Homelander. Maybe it was Noir dressed as Homelander? Hell, any time we see Homelander, it might actually be Black Noir It doesn't seem like they're going with that direction: the actor for Black Noir is black, and all the material on his character seems to build him up as a superpowered ninja. But he's so low-key throughout this whole season that he could be sandbagging.
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Jul 29, 2019 20:45
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It's mentioned that this isn't the first time he'd been captured, but last time Translucent's captors only got one chance before they all died. Even if Homelander and Vought weren't looking for him, he himself is able to effect his own escape fairly quickly once everyone is distracted. Being able to knock him out at will via electricity, plus disrupting his location tracker, gave them the chance to do some trial and error and eventually find a working method.
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Jul 30, 2019 15:51
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Panfilo posted:Compound V on adults seems like crap shoot, Homelander mentioned it took him many tries to get a terrorist to develop superpowers; my guess is many die horribly and/or develop powers incompatible with life. A-Train's trainer/brother seemed to know immediately he had only recovered that quickly because he had taken V.
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Jul 13, 2020 17:41
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ynohtna posted:It's gotta be the cheapest, realest laser and strength and flight special effects available. Translucent was definitely there in person. You know he was there on set, wandering around naked and invisible messing with people.
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Sep 18, 2020 21:40
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:I thought he would be living in heavily guarded suburb, not some potemkin village and that his whole world consists of basically his house and his mom. That kid is going to have a whole different set of problems. The real irony is that his upbringing is a lot like Homelanders, its just they thought adding the superficial suburban trappings and a mother would fix the formula.
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Oct 2, 2020 04:09
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Lamplighter spends some time highlighting how he's a child prodigy who never lived up to his potential. Compared to other heroes who have some non flashy super strength or Eagle the Archer, I can see him as some whizz kid with a dramatic powerset getting boosted into the spotlight despite some big weaknesses. Even as a washed out superhero hes still relatively young: you can absolutely see him as a photogenic boy band-style hero with throngs of teenage fans. And then he gets into cool sex parties, then transsexuals, and then whoops he murdered a few small children.
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Oct 2, 2020 19:33
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Romes128 posted:I know it doesn't really apply to the show, but in the comics it was Homelander, Maeve, and Black Noir that are the strongest supes around. Someone said even the rest of the 7 doesn't come close to those 3. Maeve VS Homelander would be good. The show has alluded to them being the Big Three too, but within the context of marketing. Still, that tracks with the power scale we've seen: in the few Supe on Supe fights we've seen, Black Noir has dominated everyone but Maeve. Maeve did beat him, but by knowing his crippling allergy and taking him by surprise. Homelander is definitely a step above them further at the very least, while Starlight is on a similar level to A-Train (who beat her by juicing) and implied to be a notch above the Deep. Translucent had to actually work to take on Butcher, implying he didn't have much in the way of strength, and Lamplighter had no powers beyond fire control. Stormfront does seem up there with the Big Three, at least in terms of laser titty levels of resilience.
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Oct 3, 2020 01:14
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My real takeaway is they finally worked in that scene from Season One that got deleted.
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Oct 9, 2020 04:36
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Wingnut Ninja posted:We've never seen Homelander not wearing his costume, correct? Other than a few scenes where he's missing his pants. I can just imagine him in like a Hawaiian shirt and cargo shorts, with Starr playing him super awkward and uncomfortable. An element of that is Starr is much smaller than most of the cast, so he is always wearing a padded suit and heels to look big and imposing.
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Oct 12, 2020 14:57
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Is that a new record for shortest tenure on the Seven? Or are we counting blindspot?
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Jun 10, 2022 15:33
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Panic! At The Tesco posted:Yeah they're total dumbasses. If my enemy was invincible, could laser me to bits and had super hearing, I'd be loving terrified of saying anything anytime lol. A huge premise of an early season 1 episode was that they had to go to extreme lengths to keep things hidden from Homelander, including a massive explosion in Frenchie's warehouse to distract him. You think playing some pop music or going down an elevator is going to stop it? If he's trying to listen in or watch, he's going to be able to.
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Jun 10, 2022 16:28
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roomtone posted:it was nice to get a scene of maeve this episode. she's a lot more interesting than some of the poo poo they've been focusing on. i wonder why she's only had 2 scenes this entire season so far, other than the in-story idea that she's laying low. It was apparently hard to work out schedules for the actress this season so she has minimum screen time and interaction with the rest of the cast.
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Jun 10, 2022 20:20
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I don't think Stan Edgar has a secret contingency to use against Homelander, I think he was just very confident in his ability to leverage control of Vought's PR machine to keep him in line. He's still confident that Homelander can't handle it, but he's annoyed that Homelander picked the MAD option. He has the Comics Stillwell quality of being thoroughly unimpressed by Homelander and not having a fear response that he expects from everyone else, we see the same thing as he's intrigued by Hughie in their last scene. Homelander's just not used to people who are able to genuinely hold things together around him: he can hear people's heartbeats pick up whenever he's even remotely menacing. He's always messing with people and pushing their buttons to see what provokes them. Being immine to that was Stan's leverage. Morrow fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Jun 12, 2022 |
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Jun 12, 2022 07:27
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We don't need the scene of Homelander threatening Victoria through her daughter to get her to sell out Edgar, anymore than we need a scene with Supersonic's brutal murder. It's pretty unambiguous how it went down.
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Jun 12, 2022 19:57
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This episode was everything I needed and more.
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Jun 24, 2022 04:28
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She does a very good job of messing with you because she's normally such a straight man. Her joke about her and Supersonic from earlier in the season also caught me off guard.Jerusalem posted:I will say in regards to this that I think Soldier Boy's reaction to MM - "You killed my family" "Which one? It's not a collateral damage thing. Soldier Boy is insulting MM by implying he has more than one family, that he's a promiscuous father with multiple baby mommas.
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Jun 24, 2022 15:08
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" or in other words that he's killed more families as collateral damage than he can count (or be bothered to)
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Darko posted:What, no. That wasnt even a stereotype in his time. Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
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Jun 24, 2022 15:16
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"Antivillain Character on the Boys is not actually a huge racist" is gonna be a hard sell given the trajectory of the show.
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Jun 24, 2022 15:45
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It shows Soldier Boy is the same type of casual, petty dick as Homelander, just less dangerous. He's still a racist who has no issues with kicking people lower on the totem pole. He can't hear your heartbeat to know what's bugging you, nor can he fly at the speed of sound or obliterate cities with his eyes. So he's less dangerous. But he's also less ambitious: all he wants is all the drugs and young starlets because he has a basic sense of self-worth that isn't dependent on constant validation. To complete the Homelander parallel: did he know Lady Liberty was a nazi and was ok with it because she was hot? EDIT: Wait, Vought was her husband, who directly experimented on him to create him. So it's not like he just knew her as some random superhero with an occasional German accent: he knows her as the nazi scientist who created compound V's widow. Frankenstein's Monster banging Frankenstein's wife. Morrow fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Jun 24, 2022 |
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Jun 24, 2022 16:12
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:I'd put them at about 60/40. Kripke went out of his way to get him in the show, and wrote the character with him in mind. Consolation prize might be that Jeffrey Dean Morgan really wants into the Boys, so there's a good chance he will show up in season 4.
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Jun 26, 2022 20:00
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The first thing he does when Homelander flies at him is drop the shield: he has it when they're squaring off and then it's gone when they start going at it.
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Jun 28, 2022 13:51
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Tender Bender posted:Well that's why it's good if he dies, he's been too lovely to deserve a real redemption arc so keeping him around seems like it would just be treading water Yeah, he and Deep kind of occupy very similar roles as washed up members of the Seven who are kept around to flirt with redemption but also get tormented by Homelander. The Deep is much more entertaining in that purgatory. I don't object to A-train surviving because I do like the character, but he needs something different to do.
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Jun 28, 2022 16:09
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Avasculous posted:I wonder who he is pummeling. Maybe the Mindstorm guy we know nothing about? Mindstorm is basically the one remaining member of Payback who can talk, so he probably spills the beans about the details in Nicaragua and Soldier Boy loses it.
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Jun 29, 2022 01:36
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SirSamVimes posted:Yeah the long streak of bloodstains along a road seems like a difficult coverup, and seems like an obvious "this was a speedster kiilling him" giveaway. He was dragging him to safety. For fifty miles.
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Jun 29, 2022 15:22
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My personal favorite is that the actual Blondie Rapture video on youtube is filled comments from people who watched the Boys.As Nero Danced posted:That reminds me, apparently Henry Cavill is involved in a remake. Defintiely cautious optimism there He's really living the dream isn't he? He's Superman, he's Geralt of Rivia, he was Sherlock Holmes, he's going to be the Highlander.
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Jun 29, 2022 19:50
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You could say A-Train's survival was a cop out.
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Jul 1, 2022 16:35
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Chamale posted:Novichok is the deadliest nerve agent known to man. After the assassination attempt on Sergei Skripal, it killed a dumpster diver who found the discarded bottle that the novichok was in. Lace the weed with novichok?
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Jul 1, 2022 22:02
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It's also not like A-Train just has a brand new heart. He's going to spend the rest of his life on immunosuppressants because otherwise his immune system will attack the big piece of foreign matter in his chest, and even then he's still probably just bought maybe another decade (69% survival rate at 5 years).
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Jul 2, 2022 03:41
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Unrelated, but my personal pick for new thread title is an underappreciated line from that phone call: "Bush like a pomeranian". It's what makes Homelander go "what". There's a part of me that wishes that phone call had no revelations, it was just Soldier Boy messing with Homelander. Morrow fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Jul 2, 2022 |
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Jul 2, 2022 04:34
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GreenNight posted:"alright in this season your character will be spending most of his time getting hosed by an octopus" To be fair the Deep is has now had three octopus sex scenes this season alone, so it is a significant fraction of his screentime. Not counting when he was forced to eat his lover.
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Jul 3, 2022 01:37
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TIP posted:at this point when someone stumbles in to defend a bigoted character we shoot on sight Soldier Boy isn't bigoted, he just legitimately doesn't remember all the black families he killed.
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Jul 4, 2022 04:59
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The Deep's story needs to be viewed in parallel with A-Train's, and that parallel is at points made explicit by their reunion briefly within the Church of the Collective. Both committed a transgressional act, but A-Train had it covered up even though his was objectively more serious. Both had to work through self criticism to try to become better people. Both got their hands on blackmail material to destroy one of their abusers, but where A-Train pulled the trigger Deep meekly gave it up and then went back to being abused. Both got booted from the Seven, but worked their way back in very different ways. A-Train's story is objectively superior though and he sucks up a lot of Deep's air.
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Jul 5, 2022 15:32
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They did my boy Noir dirty. I feel like there's a lot of tensions building up around the politics that aren't explored. Homelander has a semifascist movement forming around him that cheers on open murder, Vought's stock price is dropping as it becomes Homelander's piggy bank, and he's maneuvering an ally into the White House. This probably ends with him trying to openly overthrow the government, as in the comics. Dalael posted:I'm kind of annoyed by the inconsistency of the show for that one scene. Whatever Maeve had in her hand when she stabbed him, should have bent. I had the same issue with stormfront, that a knife could pierce her eyes despite her being tough as poo poo. We've thrown around the idea that Soldier Boy's laser disrupts other supes' powers while it is charging, so you could say that he was vulnerable in that moment. Morrow fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Jul 8, 2022 |
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Jul 8, 2022 03:46
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Yeah I really feel the plan of just getting five or six A tier supes to whale on Homelander is a much better plan that anything else proposed so far. The issue is there's really just Starlight and Kimiko, and Kimiko doesn't seem to really be on the right level. She can regenerate but she's not strong enough to do much to someone at that level. Maeve is out of action, and there's not enough temp V. Any other supes are on Homelander's side, or at least not willing to fight him. Deep and A Train are his support squad, Noir is dead, and we don't really have anyone else in the wings. Morrow fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Jul 8, 2022 |
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Jul 8, 2022 04:07
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pik_d posted:Kimiko has shown that Maeve can get her powers back with another dose of Compound V. Whether they will bring her back is another question. But does Maeve want to? She's been hinting she'd be fine with being depowered, she's now depowered, everyone thinks she's dead, and she's back with her girlfriend.
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Jul 8, 2022 04:18
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They should have depowered Homelander and set up Vic the Veep as the new big bad of the next season. Give Starr an entire season of emoting at people from a jail cell as he goes insane.
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Jul 8, 2022 14:12
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