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David Brooks makes me wish the nazis would win just to see people like him and everyone at CNN get put against the wall
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Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1157259424794324992
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Aug 2, 2019 13:16
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Why would you announce a dirt digging trip?
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Aug 2, 2019 13:19
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So what all good poo poo snuck into the NDAA 19?
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:David Brooks makes me wish the nazis would win just to see people like him and everyone at CNN get put against the wall He may have terrible opinions but you are fantasizing about Nazis winning and putting Brooks (a literal Jew) against the wall 
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Aug 2, 2019 13:50
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https://twitter.com/Comey/status/1157104624538722304
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Aug 2, 2019 13:51
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 The C-RAM technical.
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I’m the tactical column of dabbers
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:I’m the tactical column of dabbers That poo poo made me snort and wake my wife up.
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Aug 2, 2019 14:34
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Fake, no Naruto runners
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https://twitter.com/ArmyStrang/status/1157124264975376384?s=20 "Notably, it said about $224 million would be taken from the Blended Retirement System, which combines elements of the military's retirement system with a system offering benefits similar to civilian 401(k) programs" Lol , imagine explaining an unfunded pension liability to the average e-4 Lol if you just joined.
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lol I assumed "blended retirement" meant tanning your rear end and your liver on a beach with an unending river of margs
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Aug 2, 2019 14:49
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Sacrist65 posted:https://twitter.com/ArmyStrang/status/1157124264975376384?s=20 Lol if you joined under the old retirement system and switched to blended. I knew it would be a defunded shitshow, but I lacked the cynicism to suss out exactly what it would robbed to pay for.
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Aug 2, 2019 14:53
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anything that puts your total payments or value into the hands of the free market is a scam
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Aug 2, 2019 15:19
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Vasudus posted:anything that puts your total payments or value into the hands of the free market is a scam This cannot possibly be. Many Very Serious People have spent decades telling me that we need to privatize Social Security or it's going to go broke and there won't be anything left.
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bird food bathtub posted:This cannot possibly be. Many Very Serious People have spent decades telling me that we need to privatize Social Security or it's going to go broke and there won't be anything left. Think of how much money you we could make on the Free Market!!
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Aug 2, 2019 15:46
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That blended retirement thing seemed like a scam to get people off the old, actually good, retirement program. "Hey instead of this guaranteed check that we'll have to give you every month for the rest of your life when you hit your 20 years, how about you let us gamble your money on the stock market instead, but you can cash out at 15 years!" I may be wrong, but that's what it seemed like it was to me. I didn't really pay much attention since I had no plans of ever retiring and I had about a year left before I got out when they started bringing it up.
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Aug 2, 2019 15:50
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Sorry, this is the best military movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_Mx1kA3irk
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A Bad Poster posted:That blended retirement thing seemed like a scam to get people off the old, actually good, retirement program. "Hey instead of this guaranteed check that we'll have to give you every month for the rest of your life when you hit your 20 years, how about you let us gamble your money on the stock market instead, but you can cash out at 15 years!" I mean that's literally how it works. I'm possibly maybe wrong, but no change ever made to any benefits or retirement program in the history of ever has been for the increased benefit of the worker.
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Aug 2, 2019 15:55
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Admittedly, the stolen money is unused because almost everyone who could avoid switching their government fun bucks to chips on the Goldman craps table did so.
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Aug 2, 2019 15:57
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best military movie is actually jacob’s ladder
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Tryzzub posted:best military movie is actually jacob’s ladder The most realistic part is when he visits the VA at the end of the movie
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Aug 2, 2019 16:06
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Vasudus posted:I mean that's literally how it works. It’s worse because the money is in the market until you reach the age of maturation, which is currently 67 but will most definitely increase. Also there’s no reason you couldn’t pay into a TSP and use the old retirement plan, to get the benefits of both if it’s that big of deal. The blended retirement only match’s 1% contributions over the regular TSP, so there’s no mathematical way to out pace the old retirement if you pay into a TSP as well. When I was a commander I was asked to leave one of the blended retirement briefs because I stopped them and explained why is was a bad idea for anyone doing a career in the military. Like I’m probably a lovely commander but the least I can do is shield people from that insanity.
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It's heartening to see people finally realizing that it's just one big loving gamble and the people actually playing the game have no skin in it
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Aug 2, 2019 16:25
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They changed our health benefits last year so instead of going to the doctor and getting a free physical + getting $900/pp on your plan put into your HSA, you have to do six events throughout the year and get $150/pp. So on paper it adds up to the same amount, except the events are like "schedule and attend a one-on-one with a wellness coach" and all sorts of similar bullshit that only a small percentage of people are actually going to go through with. ~shareholder value~
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Vasudus posted:I mean that's literally how it works. OK, good. If I could grasp how dumb it was as an E4 who had no vested interest in it, then I won't feel bad for the people who got fleeced by it.
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Vasudus posted:I mean that's literally how it works. Post 9/11 GI Bill is the one exception.
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Vasudus posted:I mean that's literally how it works. I mean, you are wrong. There didn't use to be retirement plans or benefits, until people banded together and threatened their bosses or to shut down production. That's how benefits and retirement plans mostly came into existence in the first place. After pinkertons, local militia, and the army shot a fair number of unionists, socialists, and communists (and sometimes the outraged local populace responded by burning down the workplace) eventually they got a bit of their demands. In the past 45 years or so you're right.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:It's heartening to see people finally realizing that it's just one big loving gamble and the people actually playing the game have no skin in it Some are, but a really large portion of the country is plugging their ears and yelling, "IT'S ALL THE BROWN PEOPLE'S FAULT STRONG DADDY TRUMP WILL HURT THEM FOR ME AND MAKE IT ALL BETTER."
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Crakkerjakk posted:I mean, you are wrong. There didn't use to be retirement plans or benefits, until people banded together and threatened their bosses or to shut down production. That's how benefits and retirement plans mostly came into existence in the first place. After pinkertons, local militia, and the army shot a fair number of unionists, socialists, and communists (and sometimes the outraged local populace responded by burning down the workplace) eventually they got a bit of their demands. "history of ever" was deliberate hyperbole, yeah. Realistically I'm talking modern corporate anything.
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Nostalgia4Ass posted:Post 9/11 GI Bill is the one exception. Speaking of this, I have a close friend who told me he identifies as a republican (doesn't like Trump but sees himself as a Tom Nichols type) recently because of this because that bill helped make him who he is, so therefore, he's a republican. I asked where he got that idea. "Well it got passed by Bush." "It was passed by and written by a Dem controlled Congress. I mean it was bipartisan bill but bush had no hand in it other than signing the final bill." "Don't care!"  His wife is pretty good at calling out his stupidity on this stuff but it's incredibly grating sometimes.
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Post 9/11 GI Bill is also largely cheaper to the government because it no longer really covers certifications* and the utilization rate is actually very low. *It still does but it's not as good since it's percent/LOE and not flat cash anymore, also the list of supported certs is much more narrow Section 508 Compliance is a big thing in my line of work. People get paid A LOT of money to make sure materials/presentations/products are usable to as many people as possible.
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Vasudus posted:Post 9/11 GI Bill is also largely cheaper to the government because it no longer really covers certifications* and the utilization rate is actually very low. In very rare circumstances was the Montgomery G.I. Bill ever better for service members than the Post 9/11. It mostly just closed loopholes that allowed veterans to double dip and use state or other benefits to pay for their schooling while still collecting the the entire benefit that was paid directly to them. The narrowing of technical school benefits was also because of the proliferation of fly by night places that existed solely to fleece G.I. Bill money without providing any real training.
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The free market providing, folks And I could tell that blended retirement was a bullshit scam when they started hawking it at drill weekends. Just another scam designed to cut into the benefits paid to ARE TROOPS while we spend more and more into the MIC.
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Followup for perspective: https://twitter.com/jmspool/status/1157021965020016640 That's about 0.006% of their annual profits. Truly an undue burden for a struggling mom and pop business such as Dominos.
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Well, now I have a good moral reason not to order Domino's. Thanks, you corporate slime.
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Nostalgia4Ass posted:In very rare circumstances was the Montgomery G.I. Bill ever better for service members than the Post 9/11. It mostly just closed loopholes that allowed veterans to double dip and use state or other benefits to pay for their schooling while still collecting the the entire benefit that was paid directly to them. The narrowing of technical school benefits was also because of the proliferation of fly by night places that existed solely to fleece G.I. Bill money without providing any real training. It wasn't better, no, except in probably incredibly rare situations. But the MGIB was flat cash that the government had to carry a balance for for 10 years until your eligibility expired. Post 9/11 despite being better for the user is cheaper to the government because of that fact. It also ends up being cheaper because utilization is low (I haven't seen any recent numbers since I'm out of that industry but it was like single digit utilization 6-7 years ago). I mean this is a chicken/egg situation but I'm approaching this topic under the argument that being better for the end user was more of an accident that they spun into a win, rather than the intent out the gate (no matter what the political spin is on it)
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Handsome Ralph posted:Speaking of this, I have a close friend who told me he identifies as a republican (doesn't like Trump but sees himself as a Tom Nichols type) I feel like I know what the result will be, but you could try telling him that it was introduced by jim Webb (D-Vietnam) and was originally opposed by the guy selected to replace Bush, John McCain(R-Island owned by lobbyist) because of retention issues it would cause. Which is partially why it sat on the presidents desk for a year.
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Vasudus posted:It wasn't better, no, except in probably incredibly rare situations. But the MGIB was flat cash that the government had to carry a balance for for 10 years until your eligibility expired. Post 9/11 despite being better for the user is cheaper to the government because of that fact. It also ends up being cheaper because utilization is low (I haven't seen any recent numbers since I'm out of that industry but it was like single digit utilization 6-7 years ago). Utilization for Post 9/11 is that low and they're still starting to restrict transfer?
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